Let's Talk Robots!

On April 10, 2012, the San Francisco Bay Area Robotics Group will be gathering at the RallyPad offices for it's first ever face to face meetup!

Being our inaugural meetup, we would like the group members to get a chance to network and get to know one another. We will also be setting up a mic, so if any members would like to pitch any ideas, projects, or share any information that they feel could benefit themselves and the group, feel free to do so.

Where We'll Be:

We will be gathering at RallyPad in San Francisco at 144 2nd Street (between Mission & Howard). Map Link: http://maps.google.ca/maps?hl=en&tab=wl 

When you walk through the front doors of the building, proceed through the first door on your right, and then go down the stairs to get to the event.

Schedule:

  • 7pm - Talking and Drinks
  • 7:30pm - Pitches and Announcements
  • 8:00pm - Pitches end, and we get to network with eachother.
  • 9:30 - The event wraps up

Pitches And Announcements:

Pitches: If you want to pitch your idea, company, or project, please send me a direct message (Gary Kurek, Organizer) to secure your spot - first 10 are secured. We'll have a PA system, but no projector, so just bring a good pitch and a prototype / product if you've got one. For the sake of time we'll have 2 minute pitches and no questions during - we encourage you to talk with the speakers later.

Announcements: If you have anything else you'd like share that doesn't quite fit the criteria for a pitch but could of benefit to the group, we will keep the mic open for you for about 10 minutes following the pitch session.

Sponsors:

If anyone knows people who'd like to sponsor the event for drinks, food, etc. - please let me know!

Let me know if you have any questions or comments! 
Cheers!
Gary  

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  • Steve 'dillo O.

    A good way to kick off what is hopefully a recurring group. Heavy on people seriously interested in the topic at hand(Robotics), light on the marketing and fluff.

    April 11, 2012

  • Paul

    Good first meeting. Looking forward to more.

    April 11, 2012

  • Simon H.

    Great people and conversations had in the very stylish RallyPad office.

    April 11, 2012

  • Bert

    Great first meeting!

    April 11, 2012

  • Rob R.

    Great first meeting for this group. The event went smoothly. They had their AV system and food/drink dialed in. The organizers really went all out and made a nice catered event but if I were them I'd save money and provide less food and drink.

    One thing that could have been interesting would have been to ask *everyone* to introduce themselves. I know it could lead down a black hole - but there were probably only 30 people and at 30 seconds each we might have learned more about each other.

    Overall - great.

    April 11, 2012

  • A former member
    A former member

    Nice mingling.
    Great ideas.
    Great discussions.

    April 11, 2012

  • A former member
    A former member

    Meet some great people with some really impressive projects.

    April 11, 2012

  • A former member
    A former member

    It was a great first introduction. Looking forward to things to come...

    April 11, 2012

  • Nick P.

    Lots of get people there - definitely will be back out for this one!

    April 11, 2012

  • A former member
    A former member

    Hi Enric, if you are also into software or into internet business related or robotics. Join me in building the biggest company in the world for Humanity. The good part of this is no cofounders need to do much of anything except maybe enjoy instructing others to do work for us. I need 2-3 more team members for this big project. You don't need to quit your job also. We can do this in our spare time. I honest tell you, every cofounder on this project could be billionaires. I have 3 members now.Ming

    March 31, 2012

  • A former member
    A former member

    Hi Thomas. Love to hear you are into software. I have a proposal for you to join us. I need maybe one or two more team member for the biggest project in human history. Anyone involved could be remembered for a long time in human history. We are building a company for Humanity. This i going to be big. No team member have to spend a penny of their money or even need to write one line of code. We get money from venture firms and we hire programmers to do this. I need 2 to 3 more team members.

    March 31, 2012

  • Enric

    Certainly, good luck Ming.

    March 30, 2012

  • A former member
    A former member

    Ming: That actually happens to be a field I am fairly familiar with (I am a software architect and a linguist). I know of a few groups that are working towards this end. Most believe that the key lies in contextual analysis of questions (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_language_processing). Some has gone into things like CMU Sphinx (http://cmusphinx.sourceforge.net/) and the open robot project ( http://rossum.sourceforge.net/).

    March 30, 2012

  • A former member
    A former member

    Thanks Enric for your comment. I'm working on some ideas to write the best search engine for Humanity. Current ones still need too much reading before I find what I am looking for. Also, time wasted for looking for my answers. I think I might have find how to do it but I know it takes money to form such a company to take on Google. Ming.

    March 30, 2012

  • A former member
    A former member

    Enric: There is a big difference between technology creation and commercial viability. If anyone is able to predict the commercial viability of a product, they quickly become rich. That is the same concept as the Stock Market, and therefore has the same pitfalls. And, as I had said before, when your WHAT is significantly precise, the WHEN won't be. Flying cars and fusion reactors are pretty precise, so the when has to be equally imprecise. But, you must admit the WHAT has been solved.

    March 30, 2012

  • Enric

    Thomas: Both fusion power and flying cars are not yet a viable products in commercial practice. There continues to be research in fusion, but there is not one successful plant. And I can't go to any dealership and purchase a flying car. Both technologies had been predicted long ago as commonly available by now.

    March 30, 2012

  • Enric

    Hi Ming. A company losing it's dominance to another depends as much on itself as the competing company. In Google's case, In 1999, Larry Page and Sergey Brin offered a number of search companies their search code who all passed on it without recognizing the challenge including one of the leaders Excite who has disappeared. On the other hand, Microsoft under Bill Gates has been challenged multiple times by different companies (IBM, Apple, Borland, etc.) and responded to the challenge.

    March 30, 2012

  • A former member
    A former member

    Hi Enric and Thomas, you two are far more knowledgeable than myself on robots. One day hope we meet learn more from you guys. My next question is do people believe if Facebook can marginalize Myspace, can another company make Facebook obsolete?Most people I talked to seem to tell me this is impossible. I tell them it should be possible. Do you agree? I also think Google could be eliminated one day because the best search engine has yet to be written. I think I have found the solution on Google

    March 29, 2012

  • A former member
    A former member

    Enric: Well, I believe you are stuck with the Heisenberg uncertainty principle. The more precise you make WHAT you want to accomplish, the less precise you will be on the when. And, of course, the more precise you pick of WHEN you want to accomplish something, the less specific you will be able to be on what it is you accomplish. That is actually the premise of Agile development methodologies. They help you adjust your timescale and goals throughout the flow of the project.

    March 29, 2012

  • Enric

    Thomas: The best you can do is have different general scenarios and expect that there's some missing that may actually become true. Kurzweil has dedicated over a decade of gathering technological data and projecting rough dates of coming technological milestones. But his predictions of the direction of sentient AI is of multiple, competing scenarios.

    March 29, 2012

  • A former member
    A former member

    Enric: As far as the direction of robotics, there are many different groups working to solve many of the different possible directions of robotics, though by large the most focused upon problem is the human interfacing and emotional response. I personally think that giving machines emotions before sentience may be a really good direction to avoid the whole Cylon issue...

    March 29, 2012

  • A former member
    A former member

    Enric: Well, as a matter of fact, we have flying cars and fusion energy now (look them up, they do exist). They just are not prolific as some believe they should be. Those are actually both examples of proofs to my point. They were both things that turned out to be considerably harder than originally thought, but because of the focus to accomplish them, creative solutions were found.

    March 29, 2012

  • Enric

    Thomas: If technology can be predicted than we would have flying cars and fusion energy now. The endeavors of different scientists and hobbyist acting mainly on their own creating robotics across the world in time can not be determined.

    March 29, 2012

  • A former member
    A former member

    Enric: I would definitely have to disagree. Creation of technology is largely controlled and determined. That is the purpose of creating R&D labs and thinktanks with a stated goal (look at most ARPA/DARPA projects). There are always the occasional emergence of technologies that were stumbled upon, but they are not as common as the specifically developed technologies.

    March 29, 2012

  • A former member
    A former member

    Ming: If that is the case, then we are there. If we try to push it to the point where robots can redesign new robots, I believe that it is likely that sentience will evolve. Once sentience has evolved, we are faced with the moral conundrum of subjecting sentient (though possibly less intelligent) being to subservience. On some level it is like breeding metally retarded humans for the purpose of service.

    March 29, 2012

  • Enric

    I doubt the creation of technology can be controlled and determined.

    March 29, 2012

  • A former member
    A former member

    Hi Thomas, in that case we have to design robots smart enough to work for humans but dumb enough not to rule over humans. Ming.

    March 29, 2012

  • A former member
    A former member

    Actually, robots CAN build robots... They just can't redesign them. As far as the idea of having robots be our slave force... That is a slope warned of many times. To have machines intelligent enough to actually do our jobs, is to have robots worthy of playing and learning themselves. I don't fear sentient robots, I fear sentient robots that recognize humans as lazy and greedy (which would become obvious with even a small amount of intelligence).

    March 29, 2012

  • A former member
    A former member

    So, you don't believe robots one day can replace human manual hard labor. I was thinking of in terms of robots able to do most of the hard work for people like nursing care and even provide medical care. Can robots build other robots? Maybe not now but in the future it is very possible. I'm doing a big project to help humanity make money to do research in robotic technology. I plan to use this company to help change the world. Imagine people don't have to work anymore. 9 to5 is play and learn.

    March 29, 2012

  • A former member
    A former member

    I think that the easy/obvious answer to that is no... Societies can not be built from the outside, so humans could never build a robotic society ever. Now, for the tough part, could humans build robots that were capable of creating a society within the next century... In my opinion, I think it largely depends on the definition and requirements of a "society". Certainly even at the moment, we have robots that work in a society (that is the basis of the better team-robot control systems).

    March 29, 2012

  • A former member
    A former member

    Question I have for the group. Can humans build a robotic society within the next century?

    March 29, 2012

  • Dave L.

    Got plans already, hopefully next time.

    March 29, 2012

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