Dorothy Miller, Rep Ron Paul (R-Tx), The Fed, 9/11, and lunch.

From: Mike C.
Sent on: Wednesday, May 9, 2007 2:09 PM
Meet Up Group --
 
You are blessed to have Dorothy Miller among your numbers.  9/11 is indeed only part of the puzzle.  They used 9/11 against us, now we must have courage and use 9/11 "truth" against their agenda.
 
Think of the things YOU care about - from environment to minimum wage to health care to community gardens to animals to retirement/investments -- it LINKS TO 9/11/01 -- 9/11 truth offers the "most bang for your buck" in terms of -- don't stop with other issues you care about -- as Ron Paul, libertarian of Texas, and congressman, points out -- who understands what the Federal Reserve is, and what is coming. Ron Paul is so dangerous to the system that when he wins a debate, they dare not say his name on MSNBC!
 
If you wish to protect your assets and property, Dorothy may have some advice about sovereignty, Trusts, precious metals and more -- in a positive way -- Take Control and Regain your freedom! 
Mike Copass
 
 
 
 
Hi Abby,     My career  consists of   spreadng the truth about all the issues involved:  the Federal Reserve, which is behind these events,  the  North American Union,  for the  New World Order, the Amero, the coming currency as the dollar disappears,  and the loss of habeas corpus, meaning you and I, and the average American is subject to search and seizure at any moment.  9/11  is only one piece of the puzzle, and I am working diligently  daily to get these ideas across to as many as possible, plus getting their property and children privatized asap. 
 
From: Kevin
Sent: Tuesday, May 08,[masked]:23 AM
Subject: RE: [9-11-279] The 9/11 Truth Movement And This Group

Great input today on the topic, and thank you Abby for sending that well-needed email out.

I agree with a lot of what David is saying, and I'd like to add my take on solutions.
As Dorothy correctly pointed out, 9/11 is just a part of the problem (I look at it as a symptom, but a MAJOR symptom, much bigger than most others). The federal reserve and the global elites have definitely hijacked our country. But if we can expose 9/11, most everyone will wake up to what is going in here and in the world.

But the question is, where does it start that we can be duped for so long by our leaders? Why do people instantly believe what is said on TV or what the politicians tell us?

It starts with education. The government controls our schools, and the propaganda starts at a young age. Our history books are worthless! I believe that the most important thing we can do after exposing 9/11 is to get the government completely out of the education system. (the re are lots of alternative solutions, no time to get into it now).

Exposing 9/11 exposes the government, the NWO agenda, and media complicity and control.

However, as long as the government controls the schools, we will always have people ready to wave flags and get behind the next war, because of course, throughout history, we have always been the good guys, fighting evil and spreading democracy!!

That's my 4 cents (inflation).

As far as doing stuff for 9/11 truth, I do all the volunteering I can but am very interested to hear about fundraisers and how I can help financially as time is extremely limited for me right now but my money situation gets better all the time!

cheers and keep up the good work everyone.

Kevin

david <[address removed]> wrote:
Hi Abby and Others:

My name is David, and I am new to this group (within past two weeks). So far I haven't had a chance to volunteer my time or services. However, I do look forward to doing so in the near future.

I have been aware of what really happened on 9/11 for about 4 years now, spending countless hours pouring through the evidence, witness accounts, etc. The truth is definitely not hidden from my eyes.

I must say that I admire your determination and energy toward this issue. However I also feel the need to chime in on this thread.  As one member acknowledged, 9/11 is only one piece of the puzzle. People have only a certain amount of time and energy to get them through the day, and for some people, other issues take precedence. Our world needs help in many regards, such as animal welfare, recycling, water conservation (huge), etc.
Like you, I too believe that 9/11 is an absolutely critical issue...possibly the biggest issue of our lifetime (possibly in history!) However it's still only one piece of a very large and complex puzzle. Thankfully, we have people like you who devote themselves passionately to one cause.

Like you, I have been discouraged by when confronting people with the issue. Some people don't want to hear about it...some don't want to believe it. As another member stated, people are waiting for 'information'. I would only partially agree with this statement. I have a slightly different perspective in that I believe that most of the population DOES know deep down inside that something went horribly wrong on 9/11, and that our own government was involved. But people already have access to the information...or even actually HAVE the information already. We can stand on the street corner all day and scream at the top our lungs about how fast buildings collapse, how the building was shut down to plant the bombs, how NORAD stood down, how the hijackers are alive...blah blah blah...but what does all of this information do? I only ask the question because I feel that people don't just need information...they need to know what to do with it. Of course, I'm not asking for you to offer a 'cure-all', and I absolutely see a need to keep spreading information.

But until a scientist or physicist or structural engineer actually sits down with the american public one-by-one and explains the evidence...PROVING to people what actually happened, our country won't really do much about it. And since that's not going to happen, I feel that the entire 9/11 truth movement needs to re-evaluate and decide on how to move forward as a collective effort. Signs and banners and bumper stickers help remind people...and might even inspire some people to do their homework...but then where does that leave them? Where do they go? What do they do? 

It's been 6 years since 9/11...more and more people are tuning in...but more and more time has gone by, making it more and more difficult to point the finger or raise eyebrows.

And so my point is this....
"NOW WHAT?!"

People already know what happened that day...
But american's tend to view themselves as hopeless or defenseless.
Unfortunately, this evil machine is much much bigger than we are.
In order to fight it, we all need to come up with a 'big picture' type of solution.
 
We already have the information..."now what?"
People are already pissed off about it..."now what?"
The evidence is there for us...."now what?"

I'm not sure what the answer is, but a good starting point would revolve around creating an international, non-partisan, completely independent investigation into the whole thing. Seeing an organized group make an attempt to bring those responsible to justice for war crimes would be a step in the right direction.
 
Then again, although I do believe that what's happening as a result of 9/11 is terrifying (government control, abusive powers, war mongering, etc.). But those in power have been manipulating, killing, and controlling their people for thousands of years. This is nothing new to the world.
 
And so there's definitely some merit to the philosophy of simply 'looking ahead'. Don't get me wrong, people need to know what happened that day. It's crucial. But in order to see a brighter day someday for all of us on this planet, it's going to take a multi-layered, grassroots type of effort...and it won't have everything to do with 9/11. We need to remember to look into the future and make a point to support the right politicians, environmentalism, social consciousness, etc...and it all starts in our local communities.
 
And it all starts with people actually getting off their ass and doing something... for you it's 9/11...for others it sustainability...for others its something else.

Hopefully our collective efforts someday change the tides of history.
 




 

From: [address removed]
To: [address removed]
Subject: Re: [9-11-279] The 9/11 Truth Movement And This Group
Date: Tue, 8 May[masked]:58:46 -0400

Hi Abby,     My career  consists of   spreadng the truth about all the issues involved:  the Federal Reserve, which is behind these events,  the  North American Union,  for the  New World Order, the Amero, the coming currency as the dollar disappears,  and the loss of habeas corpus, meaning you and I, and the average American is subject to search and seizure at any moment.  9/11  is only one piece of the puzzle, and I am working diligently  daily to get these ideas across to as many as possible, plus getting their property and children privatized asap. 
 
I appreciate your efforts - if I am not at every meeting, or being visible in the group, I am still working.  Thanks for all you do. 
Sincerely,  Dorothy  Miller



-----Original Message-----
From: Abby Martin
Sent: May 7,[masked]:41 PM
To: [address removed]
Subject: [9-11-279] The 9/11 Truth Movement And This Group

A special announcement from Abby Martin, Organizer of The San Diego 9/11 Questions Meetup Group

Hello to all members!
I just wanted to say a few things about this group. First of all, I really appreciate the fact that everyone here has realized how important this movement is, and that is why they have joined. But less than 10% of the members participate in our meetups or even participate
on the website at all. I have noticed a huge lack of participation in the group when it comes to our collective 9/11 activism. This sole purpose of the group is meant to spread awareness, help with outreach, and to do activism for this movement. We are in a crucial time, and we all need to pull together as a team to work to change the structure that is destroying this country.
Without the help of everyone, our efforts don't reach nearly enough people. The most important thing to participate in every month is our visibility actions on the 11th. Even just helping to prepare is enough. Just taking an hour out of your day on the 11th to join us with what we are doing is a great help. We need to be out in the public eye. We need to show the world we are a growing force. If we fail to do this, then we will fail with our goal. The mainstream media is doing everything in its abusive power to prevent us from being heard, and to prevent the movement from growing. They know the threat. We need people who are willing to put themselves out there.
I know we are all extremely busy. I myself work two jobs and hardly have time for a social life and for personal time. But I realize how important it is for us to win this fight. This movement is bigger than me, and my life. That is why I have dedicated my life to this cause. I think it is time that we all put a little bit more in the effort. If anyone has any suggestions of meetups they want to start seeing and would participate in, things they can do on their own every month, donation suggestions and fundraising, please let me know.
9/11 blogger is a fantastic social networking site for 9/11 truthers to converse and discuss everything that is 9/11. I highly recommend any members who are not very interested in actually participating in the movement to become a user on 9/11 blogger and remove yourself from the group. Thanks so much for your time everyone, and I hope to see you all soon.
Kind Regards
Abby Martin
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