Re: [9-11-279] New Event: Double Feature: The Immigration Invasion

From: Dane
Sent on: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 8:39 PM
Hey Tony,

No I went to Rancho Bernardo High and then Abraxas.  I didn't graduate 
though.  I dropped out my Jr. year in 2000.  School sucks.  I am finishing 
though, part time. (?)

I hate how the elite have used race politics as a way to stir up emotions 
among the people.

--Dane




>From: Tony <[address removed]>
>Reply-To: [address removed]
>To: [address removed]
>Subject: Re: [9-11-279] New Event: Double Feature: The Immigration Invasion
>Date: Wed, 30 May[masked]:19:22 -0400 (EDT)
>
>Hey Dane,
>
>   I grew up in Poway too.  Did you go to Poway High?  I graduated in 94'.
>
>   As far as this immigration debate goes, I'm a 1/2 mexican conservative, 
>so I find myself argueing with myself a lot.    Peace & Love people!
>
>   T-Bone
>
>Dane Bacon <[address removed]> wrote:
>   I grew up in Poway and there was a small group of wannabes who called
>themselves "skinheads" but they were just as anti-social toward other white
>people as they were toward blacks. They're nobody. Drunks and losers.
>There aren't too many blacks in Poway either aside from a couple of my
>friends and they were never threatened or attacked to my knowledge.
>Skinheads are at least intelligent enough to comprehend the penalty of a
>hate crime in this country and how lopsided those laws really are. I know
>what you mean about Santee and how there seems to be a following of
>internet/keyboar­d racists but when it comes right down to it, they don't
>have the impact that our mainstream media and school textbooks claim.
>
>In my other post about the white high school student who was attacked by a
>black student, what I didn't mention was that the mainstream media tried to
>spin the story saying that it was a white power rally held by white racists
>when from the very beginning it was made LOUD AND CLEAR that this was a
>"Rally against violence" and was open to all.
>
>Again, there are some ignorant people out there.
>
>--Dane
>
> >From: brainphreak
>
> >Reply-To: [address removed]
> >To: [address removed]
> >Subject: Re: [9-11-279] New Event: Double Feature: The Immigration 
>Invasion
> >Date: Wed, 30 May[masked]:11:20 -0400 (EDT)
> >
> >
> >say what? When I was in high school my first year there was a race riot
> >and everyone went on lockdown while the police came in... check out 
>kkk.com
> >(or numerous other sites) which consist of a LARGE amount of people, many
> >of them technically inclined. I know because when I was a hacker they
> >constantly attacked us and other groups, and had many people on the 
>inside
> >as well.. (server admins) To top that off just yesterday on the file
> >sharing program "soulseek" there was a large group of them blasting
> >everyone from jew to black, and they provided a steady flow of biased
> >"facts" about crime rates and stuff.. was truly pathetic.. Also if you
> >ever go to a "pantera" concert you will see PLENTY.. or since your in San
> >Diego, there are a bunch in "santee" hehe.. they arer everywhere as
> >pathetic as that is... Theres even a large genre of crappy punk music
> >dedicated to the teachings of hitler and racism... "kill the jews" etc.
> >sad...
> >
> >
> >
> >They do exist, and some are actually intelligent yet ignorant as you can
> >get... I wish you were right about them only being in back country or
> >prison... but thats definitely not the case. The government does however
> >abuse every single term, racist.. terrorist.. lefty etc.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >On Wed May 30 17:59 , Dane Bacon sent:
> >
> >
> >
> >I agree with Dana and share her concern for the aggressive and violent la
> >
> >raza Mexicans invading OUR state with the help of corporations and
> >
> >government leaders. Calling people ignorant and racist is a cop-out. It's
> >
> >the same exact trick the Jews use repeatedly by calling people
> >
> >"anti-semetic" whenever their system of control and propaganda gets 
>shaken
> >
> >by the truth.
> >
> >
> >
> >The whole "white supremacy movement" is propaganda put out by the elite.
> >
> >There are no REAL white supremacists aside from some back country 
>bumpkins
> >
> >and people in prison who have to defend themselves from other violent
> >
> >criminals.
> >
> >
> >
> >--Dane
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: "Mark E. Smith"
> >
> > >Reply-To: [address removed]
> >
> > >To: [address removed]
> >
> > >Subject: Re: [9-11-279] New Event: Double Feature: The Immigration
> >Invasion
> >
> > >& Trespassing Allow
> >
> > >Date: Wed, 30 May[masked]:29:38 -0400 (EDT)
> >
> > >
> >
> > >So you think that immigration has something to do with 9/11 truth, 
>Dana?
> >
> > >You
> >
> > >know that immigrants didn't do it, but you think that by understanding
> >why
> >
> > >the government is outsourcing your jobs and letting in immigrants, 
>you'll
> >
> > >find some key to 9/11 truth?
> >
> > >
> >
> > >Immigrants who work in the fields, slaughterhouses, meat packing 
>plants,
> >or
> >
> > >as dishwashers, don't get health care, bank accounts, housing, and 
>jobs.
> >If
> >
> > >they didn't they wouldn't come here because U.S. citizens would have
> >taken
> >
> > >all those jobs.
> >
> > >
> >
> > >Google "ICE raids" if you don't think immigrants are being deported. I
> >
> > >can't
> >
> > >believe that somebody is pretending not to know about this.
> >
> > >
> >
> > >As for our invading and annexing Mexico, you can't rewrite history. We
> >did
> >
> > >and that's a fact.
> >
> > >
> >
> > >And when this was Mexico, settlers got a better deal here than they did
> >in
> >
> > >the rest of the U.S.
> >
> > >
> >
> > >I don't know how you fell for Minutemen/Rush Limbaugh propaganda, but
> >your
> >
> > >ignorance isn't my problem. When somebody tries to insert that crap 
>into
> >a
> >
> > >9/11 truth group that I happen to belong to, then it becomes my 
>problem.
> >
> > >
> >
> > >Sure, not all immigrants have the house with picket fence American 
>dream.
> >
> > >They're sleeping in the fields because they can't afford rent on what
> >
> > >they're paid, IF they're paid (often they're just threatened with
> >
> > >deportation and not paid at all), and you want them to look clean and
> >
> > >shiny?
> >
> > >How would you look after a few days working in the fields or a
> >
> > >slaughterhouse without proper housing so you could clean up?
> >
> > >
> >
> > >Paul, let me explain to you why our government appears to be pushing
> >
> > >immigrantion. You do know why they outsource jobs, right? For business,
> >the
> >
> > >bottom line is the bottom line, so lower wages mean more profits. Watch
> >the
> >
> > >documentary "The Corporation" if you don't understand this. Now try to
> >
> > >understand that if lower wages are better for business, no wages at 
>all,
> >or
> >
> > >slave labor, is best. That's why Henry Ford and Prescott Bush supported
> >
> > >Hitler. That's why many Americans supported slavery. That's why Bush 
>had
> >
> > >Bechtel and Halliburton build detention camps all over the U.S., and
> >that's
> >
> > >why they are running these Gestapo raids on places where there is a lot
> >of
> >
> > >undocumented labor. But don't think for a minute that once they put the
> >
> > >immigrants in camps or deport them, you can get those minimum wage
> >
> > >backbreaking jobs in the fields or in slaughterhouses. You'd want 
>minimum
> >
> > >wage whereas they can use prison labor, particularly from our 
>privatized
> >
> > >prisons for less than they'd have to pay somebody in China or India.
> >
> > >
> >
> > >And when it comes your turn to be rounded up for slave labor, don't say 
>I
> >
> > >didn't try to warn you. Google Pastor Niehmoller--people as ignorant 
>and
> >
> > >racist as you existed in Nazi Germany too.
> >
> > >
> >
> > >If the White Supremacy movement succeeds in hijacking the 9/11 truth
> >
> > >movement, you'll find out too late that you weren't fighting fascism, 
>you
> >
> > >were promoting it.
> >
> > >
> >
> > >--Mark
> >
> > >
> >
> > >On 5/30/07, Dana wrote:To Mark and others,
> >
> > >
> >
> > >I am not currently living in San Diego, but have been considering it as 
>a
> >
> > >mini vacation. However I feel Mark you are not seeing the whole 
>picture.
> >
> > >The global government is what is enabling these illegals to come here 
>in
> >
> > >the first place. I have not met any of you in this group, but I think
> >this
> >
> > >group is aware of that. Companies give them health care, bank accounts,
> >
> > >housing, and jobs without ever showing any form of ID. Now if you are a
> >
> > >legal citizen of this country try doing that. You will be denied on the
> >
> > >spot
> >
> > >and probably laughed at.
> >
> > >
> >
> > >You have very good points, but you aren't making the connection. The
> >
> > >federal
> >
> > >government already has the laws in place to deport Illegals, but that 
>is
> >
> > >not
> >
> > >being done because of a global government plan and the North American
> >
> > >Union.
> >
> > >I agree that a fence, at this time, would only be to keep us in. The 
>way
> >
> > >you get the illegals out of here is cut off their source of goods and
> >
> > >money,
> >
> > >which would be fining any company that hires them without checking
> >papers.
> >
> > >This includes the middle class American that owns a landscaping 
>business.
> >
> > >That in itself would scare companies and then illegals would go 
>packing.
> >I
> >
> > >know there are some great Hispanics trying to make a living here and
> >those
> >
> > >people I am not as concerned with (however they should go through the
> >same
> >
> > >bureaucracy we do as citizens). The type I am concerned with are those
> >
> > >that
> >
> > >wrap themselves in the Mexican flag saying that California, Texas, and
> >
> > >Arizona are now Mexico (la raza). They are the ones that want to kill 
>us
> >
> > >and turn the southern part of the US into another Mexico. Mark have you
> >
> > >ever
> >
> > >heard of "The Plan of San
> >
> > >Diego"?
> >
> > >The problem is the mainstream media only shows the good working
> >
> > >illegal
> >
> > >with 2 kids, well-dressed, in a nice little house. What they don't want
> >to
> >
> > >show you is what it is really like. If they are so proud of Mexico then
> >why
> >
> > >are they coming here in the first place? Our government should put
> >pressure
> >
> > >on Mexico to get their country in order. We cannot support 20+ million
> >
> > >illegals, but I think nationally the numbers are more along the lines 
>of
> >30
> >
> > >million.
> >
> > >
> >
> > >I am glad that some others felt the need to reply because I thought I 
>was
> >
> > >alone. =D
> >
> > >
> >
> > >~dana
> >
> > >
> >
> > >On 5/30/07, Paul Cofrancesco wrote:
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >> Dana,
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>Those were good points. I think issues like immigration get confusing
> >
> > >>because there so many aspects to them. Many of the concerns for and
> >
> > >>against
> >
> > >>immigration are valid, but the real question in mind is why is our
> >
> > >>government pushing it so much. I think the immigration debate is 
>packed
> >
> > >>with propanganda both pro and con and the part that is most easily 
>lost
> >is
> >
> > >>why is our governent pusing it - especially in light of 911 and the
> >
> > >>alledged
> >
> > >>war on terror.
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>Paul
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> >
> > >>*From:* [address removed]
> >[[address removed]','','','')"­>[address removed]] *On Behalf Of *
> >
> > >>Dana
> >
> > >>*Sent:* Wednesday, May 30,[masked]:40 AM
> >
> > >>*To:* [address removed]
> >
> > >>*Subject:* Re: [9-11-279] New Event: Double Feature: The Immigration
> >
> > >>Invasion & Trespassing Allow
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>To Mark and others,
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>...
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>I am glad that some others felt the need to reply because I thought I
> >was
> >
> > >>alone. =D
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>~dana
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>
> >
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