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Topic: Magic(k) (NYC Satanists, Luciferians, LHPers, etc.)

  • Jul 5, 2012 · 7:15 PM
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Topic:  Magic(k).  We'll talk about our personal practices, insofar as people at the meeting feel comfortable sharing them.


This meeting is our regular monthly dinner gathering in Manhattan, for Satanists, Luciferians, "Dark" Pagans, and "Left Hand Path" occultists of all law-abiding kinds, plus open-minded people interested in learning about the many forms of Satanism, Luciferianism, "Dark" Paganism, and LHP occultism. (The organizer is a non-LaVeyan theistic Satanist.)

Please plan to arrive before 7:30 PM.  The meeting will have the following format:

  • 7:15 to 7:30: Informal socializing.
  • 7:30 to 7:40: Order food.
  • 7:40 to 8:05: Introductions. Tell us a little about your own perspective on Satanism, Luciferianism, "Dark" Paganism, or "Left-Hand-Path" occultism.
  • 8:05 to 8:15: Break.
  • 8:15 to 9:15: Discussion of main topic:  Magic(k)
  • 9:15 to 9:25: Break.
  • 9:25 to 10:00: Announcements, discussion of our group's possible future plans, and miscellaneous.
  • 10:00 to 10:15 or later: Informal socializing.

We meet at a diner on 23rd Street, on the West side of Manhattan. (The exact address, and other details, will be visible to you once you join this Meetup group.) The nearest subway stop is 23rd Street on the A, C, and E lines (8th Avenue).

We'll be at a table in the BACK part of the diner. Please ask a waiter about "Diane Vera's meetup." At least one or two of us, though probably not most of us, will be wearing black shirts and/or point-down pentagram pendants of some kind. (If you arrive early and are the first to arrive, please have a seat in the BACK part of the diner and let the waiter know that you are here for "Diane Vera's meetup.")

Newcomers are welcome. Diane Vera, the organizer, will make a point of welcoming all who arrive and encouraging all attendees to tell the rest of us a bit about themselves and their beliefs, to facilitate conversation. Although our meetings are informal, we do aim to have substantive conversation about our beliefs and practices, rather than just random chit chat.

Please plan to spend a minimum of $5 (per person) for food and/or drinks, so that the diner where we meet will continue to welcome our business.

We need you to RSVP here on the Meetup site, so we can know how big a table to ask for. Please RSVP as soon as you can. The more people RSVP early, the bigger and better our meetings will be, because a reasonably large number of early RSVP's will let other visitors to this site know that we are indeed a live group where they will actually meet some people.

Diane Vera, the organizer of this Meetup Group, is also the founder of the local NYC proto-congregation of the Church of Azazel. However, the NYC Satanists discussion group welcomes Satanists, Luciferians, Dark Pagans, and LHP occultists of all law-abiding kinds, not just prospective Church of Azazel members.)

Diane Vera, the organizer, is a non-LaVeyan theistic Satanist. She maintains a website on theistic Satanism, including the page Attention, New Yorkers! (for theistic Satanists in and near New York City).

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  • Lucien Stanton D.

    This influence was a younger and changing perspective with the times and it's new Magus, Peter H. Gilmore. I have the greatest respect for his vision.


    1 · July 6, 2012

  • Erobos L.

    It was very insightful and introspective.

    July 6, 2012

  • Lucien Stanton D.

    So... I guess what I'm saying here is "Let's give the Devil his due." I would like to see the perception change to... "he set a path and gave a stepping off point, for others to bring ancient Satanism into the modern world. Doktor LaVey was not only a friend but I identified many changes throughout the years in his philosophies from 1966-through his death in 1997.

    1 · July 6, 2012

  • Lucien Stanton D.

    it's great opportunity to share our difference and for that I thank Diane. I could do with a little less "LaVey" negativity as he was a brilliant man without whom, many current organizations would be seriously lacking in depth and substance in mission. It's like I often say to Colleges in my field, who say... "I'm NOT at 'Freudian' ", to which I respond... "You better kiss your ass, up to whatever god you believe in, because without Freud, you wouldn't have a career.

    July 6, 2012

  • Lucien Stanton D.

    I felt very comfortable speaking with those, who share their beliefs, which many times vary from my own. Knowledge is power. The "Light Bearer" always brings illumination in whatever form it takes.
    I like it. I've been going there for many years. I would however, like to look into a space whereas we can hold a meeting that can feel a bit more intimate and perhaps even sacred. Something like an old dimly lit Coffee House, Cafe etc. A bit more atmosphere in inducing deeper thought.
    I think

    1 · July 6, 2012

  • Lucien Stanton D.

    I felt very comfortable speaking with those, who share their beliefs, which many times vary from my own. Knowledge is power. The "Light Bearer" always brings illumination in whatever form it takes.

    July 6, 2012

  • Blake A.

    It was an interesting meeting getting to know new people and new ideas. I liked the general discussion, but I wish it had stayed more on topic. I'll probably go to another meeting in the future.

    July 6, 2012

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