Documentary Film Discussion

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  • James

    awesome, we covered a lot of ground, not only about the documentary and messages media convey, but the environment, and what it meant to be "secular" and "humanist"

    April 18, 2013

  • farnaz

    To add to Sean's points, some questions that have been running in my head after watching this movie are hovering around the relationship between Fracturing and Human Secularism - to bring it back to our group theme.
    - Does being secularist prevent the heart-crunching incidents shown in the movie from happening?
    - Or does being religious can perhaps be an easier way to prevent immoral actions?
    - I guess the big-picture question that I is running in my head is, is there any relationship between religion and morality- specifically when it comes to environmental issues? I would like to hear what you think and why? Can you think of an example that supports your point?

    I look forward to hearing your thoughts...

    April 18, 2013

  • Tom

    Haven't seen the documentary ...

    April 18, 2013

    • farnaz

      Tom, I think it should still be easy to get involved in the conversation. Here is how I would sum up the movie: "what do you think about the lucrative business of gas extraction when it heavily impacts the health of people in the region where the extractions are taking place"

      April 18, 2013

  • Sean

    As a positive change for Tomorrow's meeting Farnaz is going to moderate this discussion. I'm excited about it!

    Some discussion points to think about:
    - Is Hydraulic Fracturing being portrayed acurately?
    - Do the benefits of it outweigh the costs?
    - Are there ways to mitigate some of the challenges?

    I'm sure there are many more but that's a start.

    April 17, 2013

    • farnaz

      Not sure about the "positive" part, but would be glad to help out. I am excited to hear everyone's point of view.

      April 18, 2013

  • James E.

    at the risk of once again highjacking discussion by the right wing fundamentalists christian yahoos I wonder if anyone saw on equator
    HD recently the documentary Godless about the secular humanist/atheist movement. Might be worthy of discussion.

    April 17, 2013

    • Sean

      We can perhaps put this into next months documentary discussion.

      April 17, 2013

  • eva g.

    Hydraulic fracturing, or fracking, has played an important role in the development of America's oil and natural gas resources for nearly 60 years. In the U.S., an estimated 35,000 wells are processed with the hydraulic fracturing method; it’s estimated that over one million wells have been hydraulically fractured since the first well in the late 1940s. Each well is a little different, and each one offers lessons learned. The oil and natural gas production industry uses these lessons to develop best practices to minimize the environmental and societal impacts associated with development.Studies estimate that up to 80 percent of natural gas wells drilled in the next decade will require hydraulic fracturing to properly complete well setup. Horizontal drilling is a key component in the hydraulic fracturing process.

    April 10, 2013

  • eva g.

    The fracturing fluid varies in composition depending on the type of fracturing used, A typical fracture treatment uses between 3 and 12 additive chemicals.[40] Although there may be unconventional fracturing fluids, the typical used chemical additives are:
    Acids—hydrochloric acid, or acetic acid is used in the pre-fracturing stage for cleaning the perforations and initiating fissure in the near-wellbore rock.
    Sodium chloride (salt)—delays breakdown of the gel polymer chains.
    Polyacrylamide and other friction reducers—minimizes the friction between fluid and pipe
    Ethylene glycol—prevents formation of scale deposits in the pipe.
    Borate salts—used for maintaining fluid viscosity
    Sodium and potassium carbonates
    Glutaraldehyde—used as disinfectant of the water (bacteria elimination).
    Guar gum and other water-soluble gelling agents—
    Citric acid—used for corrosion prevention.
    Isopropanol—increases the viscosity of the fracture fluid.

    April 10, 2013

  • Sheldon B.

    You are spot on so far Eva

    April 10, 2013

  • eva g.

    Hydraulic fracturing involves the use of water pressure to create fractures in rock that allow the oil and natural gas it contains to escape and flow out of a well. This process takes places under tight regulatory control.
    Proponents of hydraulic fracturing point to the economic benefits from vast amounts of formerly inaccessible hydrocarbons the process can extract.[3] Opponents point to potential environmental impacts, including contamination of ground water, risks to air quality, the migration of gases and hydraulic fracturing chemicals to the surface, surface contamination from spills and flowback and the health effects of these.[4] For these reasons hydraulic fracturing has come under scrutiny internationally, with some countries suspending or banning Most vein systems are a result of repeated hydraulic fracturing during periods of relatively high pore fluid pressure. This is particularly noticeable in the case of "crack-seal" veins

    April 10, 2013

  • eva g.

    Hydraulic fracturing, or fracking, has played an important role in the development of America's oil and natural gas resources for nearly 60 years. In the U.S., an estimated 35,000 wells are processed with the hydraulic fracturing method; it’s estimated that over one million wells have been hydraulically fractured since the first well in the late 1940s. Each well is a little different, and each one offers lessons learned. The oil and natural gas production industry uses these lessons to develop best practices to minimize the environmental and societal impacts associated with development Studies estimate that up to 80 percent of natural gas wells drilled in the next decade will require hydraulic fracturing to properly complete well setup. Horizontal drilling is a key component in the hydraulic fracturing process.
    In short, this makes it possible for shale oil extraction to produce oil and natural gas in places where conventional technologies are ineffective.

    April 10, 2013

  • eva g.

    Definition of 'Fracking'
    A slang term for hydraulic fracturing. Fracking refers to the procedure of creating fractures in rocks and rock formations by injecting fluid into cracks to force them further open. The larger fissures allow more oil and gas to flow out of the formation and into the wellbore, from where it can be extracted.
    Fracking has resulted in many oil and gas wells attaining a state of economic viability, due to the level of extraction that can be reached. Investopedia explains 'Fracking'
    Petroleum engineers have used fracking as a means of increasing well production since the late 1940s. Fractures can also exist naturally in formations, and both natural and man-made fractures can be widened by fracking. As a result, more oil and gas can be extracted from a given area of land.

    April 10, 2013

  • Sheldon B.

    Sorry, I've had to change my RSVP to No. My week has exploded with things needing my attention and I simply cannot fit this in my schedule.

    April 10, 2013

  • farnaz

    Great! Thanks Eva and Sean!

    April 8, 2013

  • Sean

    The movie can be rented, online, at the following link:
    http://www.youtube.com/movie?v=...­

    April 8, 2013

  • Sean

    Sorry all. Here's a link to the website for the movie:
    http://www.gaslandthemovie.com­

    1 · April 8, 2013

    • farnaz

      This doesn't have the movie on it, does it?

      April 8, 2013

  • Sean

    Gasland is the movie of choice this month.

    April 5, 2013

    • Sean

      I know it's on Netflix at this time. I'll see if I can source some other option though.

      1 · April 5, 2013

    • farnaz

      I would be interested too if u found a link

      April 8, 2013

  • Amy

    I can't make it after all. I'll still watch the film, though!

    April 7, 2013

  • eva g.

    The documentary Gasland; interesting and appropriate for our Province.
    It should bring good discussion

    April 5, 2013

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