Re: [polyamory-393] Polyamory - Married and Dating - New Showtime TV series Premiering 7/12/12 at 11pm

From: Nat
Sent on: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 11:20 AM
50 Shades of Grey was very well received by the mainstream public and opened the eyes of many who were uneducated about BDSM. i personally know many women who now want to try it simply because of that book whether or not it was "accurate" or not. why can't you see the positive in that? why don't you write your own book if you feel it's so out of line with the BDSM culture? you have to commend people who successfully get a message out to the mainstream. it's not always going to perfect, but at least they did it. so many people who say they want to write a book but never do it. it's like that dumb book, the celestine prophecy. it was terribly written but the MESSAGE was important and caused a spiritual awakening/revolution in so many people because it was relatable and used layman's terms.
polyamory is very intimidating and triggers people's insecurities. i have to say, a lot of the naysayers here sound like they just want their own exclusive VIP lifestyle (maybe it makes you feel special?) without anyone knowing about it which goes against everything poly is - community and many loves. i was always surprised at how many poly people were against me and wanted to be EXclusive with their lifestyle and not INclusive. makes me wonder if they really are poly or not.

the families on the show are trailblazers, poly activists and they are risking all by showing the world how they love and live - and for that, they are heroes whether you agree or not. much like Ellen was a trailblazer for coming out as gay back in the day on her show, these families are now and will forever be the face of polyamory's introduction to the mainstream. and they are amazingly beautiful human beings and i am so proud of them.

i've said my peace. people who will react negatively i think are sad that they won't be in the shadows anymore, which is a whole other conversation as to why they want to remain in the shadows.

lastly, i want to say a big thank you to Deborah. she trusted me and believed in me enough to let me into this group to meet poly families. she was threatened or suspicious of  my message and my vision, and for that, i could i am forever grateful for her support. i hope you all watch and enjoy. and if you don't like it....well, even better!! xo





From: Eric <[address removed]>
To: [address removed]
Sent: Wednesday, July 11,[masked]:30 AM
Subject: Re: [polyamory-393] Polyamory - Married and Dating - New Showtime TV series Premiering 7/12/12 at 11pm

I'm also a member of the BDSM community, and we had a similar circumstance forced upon us rather than choosing it recently, in the form of that crime against literature called Fifty Shades of Grey. It is by all accounts terribly written, sex-focused, gets its facts wrong, displays manifestly unhealthy relationships, and is generally terribly public relations for the community - but it's been helping us out anyway, because terrible portrayal or not, it's raising awareness. I've met people at social events, gotten messages on social networks, et cetera, over and over again over the past few months, from mainly young women who have read Fifty Shades and become aware that they're interested in BDSM as a result of it, and are interested in doing something about it. I get the feeling that both BDSM and polyamory are in the "any press is good press" stage, where any remotely sympathetic media portrayal will do more to bring those who are interested but unaware into the scene than it will to scare anyone off or marginalize us. With this recent experience in mind, even though I have about as much respect for Showtime as I do for Twilight fan-fiction gone mainstream, I'm cautiously optimistic about the results of this (assuming, that is, that it even attracts an audience). Because really, who objects to an influx of young women?

Hope I haven't stepped on too many toes with this first message to all of you!

Eric

On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 11:24 PM, Jim <[address removed]> wrote:
Thank you for the clarification.  I did not think you were saying that your opinion was everyone's opinion, but rather it seemed that you thought your preference. should be applied to everyone.  There is a big difference there.  However, either way, in light of your clarification, it was indeed a misunderstanding, and I certainly respect your right to your own opinion, even though we both obviously disagree.

Peace,

Jim
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"Love one another, but make not a bond of love:
Let it rather be a moving sea between the shores of
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Subject: Re: [polyamory-393] Polyamory - Married and Dating - New
Showtime TV series Premiering 7/12/12 at 11pm
From: "Dr. Mitch" <[address removed]>
Date: Tue, July 10,[masked]:37 pm
To: [address removed]

I actually went out of my way to say that was one man's opinion and my opinion.  Yes its a mis-understanding if you read I think its everyone's opinion.  I just think discrete lifestyles that are paraded in front of the media regardless of the intent whether it be publicity or someone's 15 minutes of fame takes away the sanctitiy of the lifestyle.  Again I said "I THINK!!!!" in case there is more mis-understanding.

From: Jim <[address removed]>
To: [address removed]
Sent: Tuesday, July 10,[masked]:11 PM
Subject: RE: [polyamory-393] Polyamory - Married and Dating - New Showtime TV series Premiering 7/12/12 at 11pm

I'm glad to know that your opinions are important to you, mine are pretty important to me as well. LOL   Pardon my misunderstanding, if indeed it is, but it seems that you are saying that your opinion, or preference, should be applied to the whole community.  In my opinion, that is just not the way things work.  Also, the show is not going interview anyone or identify them if they don't want to be.  Overall it should be good publicity to attract new members to our community, and dispel a lot of negativity from the general public.  Please read my previous post about my slight involvement with the creators, for more information.

Jim
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"Love one another, but make not a bond of love:
Let it rather be a moving sea between the shores of
your souls." - Kahlil Gibran


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Subject: Re: [polyamory-393] Polyamory - Married and Dating - New
Showtime TV series Premiering 7/12/12 at 11pm
From: "Dr. Mitch" <[address removed]>
Date: Tue, July 10,[masked]:46 pm
To: [address removed]

I'm not so sure that this is good news.  I know it has already happened and I wasn't at that meetup but speaking for myself, the lifestyle is something that most people are exploring discretely to see if it meets with their relationship journey.  I know I would NEVER give permission for my name, image story, etc to be used in ANY media content.  That's just one man's opinion and its mine so its important to me.
 
Mitch

From: Deborah <[address removed]>
To: [address removed]
Sent: Tuesday, July 10,[masked]:31 AM
Subject: [polyamory-393] Polyamory - Married and Dating - New Showtime TV series Premiering 7/12/12 at 11pm

Greetings!!!
 
We have fantastic news!
 
A new TV show on Showtime about polyamory is premiering on July 12th at 11pm.  Some of you may remember when I asked the group if it was ok that a TV producer join the meetup.  This is the result of that.  I hope the show does well, and each of us can do our part in helping that to happen by supporting the show and sharing the fact that it is airing on showtime.  Please take a moment to watch the promo spot for the show and then share it wherever you like.  The more people who know about it, the more people will watch it.
 
 
A Special thank you to Natalia, Janice and Daniel!




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