Seattle/Ravenna In-Depth Song Critique Workshop

  • February 15, 2013 · 7:00 PM
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Time for another Seattle-Ravenna In-Depth Song Critique Workshop, to be held, as usual, at the humble Apolis home.  I invite all serious or semi-serious songwriters to share one of your songs for critique and comments. Past events have been fun and successful, and I’ve learned a good bit from every one of these sessions that I have attended or hosted.  The group is always friendly, and you are sure to get some unique points of view on your song, which perhaps may trigger some thoughts in you about how to bring that song to where you want it to be.

A song does not have to be finished to be suitable for critiquing, but it should be well along, with some developed ideas, music, and lyrics. I encourage those who have songs in progress, and for me, those songs are really more interesting to think about and to critique. I have found that those presenting songs they consider “finished” don’t get the full benefit of the critique process, unless they are looking to make that song better, meaning you are considering changing the song.  This group is intended to promote learning and sharing the wisdom of the many fine songwriters we have in SiS, and for
getting us all to think more clearly about what happens as we write a song. It is all synergy. I think of a song as a crafted item, with careful attention to how it is put together and what it is meant to express.

About a week prior to the critique, you are asked to provide (online) both a recording of your song, and a copy of your lyrics. (I can recommend soundcloud for this, as it has worked very well in the past, but any site with easy access is OK.  If you don’t have an account on soundcloud, it is easy and free.) I’ll send a notice to remind you when it is time to post.

Please don’t sign up unless you already have, or will have soon, a song recording and lyrics to post. In past critiques, it has happened a number times that folks have signed up, then quit at the last minute. This  unnecessarily interrupts the critique process, and can result in insufficient time for each of us to review and comment on the song. Therefore, I am
going to require that your postings be made on or before the Sunday prior to the workshop date. That will leave 5 days to review the songs, which I think is rather a minimum; more time would be better. If you have not posted by then, or at least contacted me with a date when you will post, you may be dropped from the critique session, especially if there are folks on the waiting list.  I don't like to be ''strict" but I consider these sessions to be about serious learning and improvement of our chops.

A few reminders:
This is a closed event, limited to five participants. This number seems to work best, and everyone gets enough “face time” to benefit from the critique. If the event is full, there is a waiting list. Don’t come to observe or show up if you do not have a spot reserved. Contact me (John Apolis[masked]) directly if you have any questions.

Some guidelines I have compiled for critiquing are posted in the SiS website, under ‘more’ then ‘files’.   You should also have a look at the additional material posted by others, also helpful and insightful.

For posting, you might look into Soundcloud, which is free and easy to use.  However, feel free to post on any site you can provide an easy link for.


Last Thought: If you are on the wait list and feeling left out, or just have an itch to listen to our critique songs, you should feel free to check out what we have posted, and comment via email. You can send those comments to any of us through the website.

Thank you, and I look forward to meeting each of you and sharing our songs.
John Apolis

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