Mount Langley Extreme Day Hike

I have copied this from a previous meetup, hosted by Nathan.  We are looking at three dates in June.   There may be some geocaching potential along the way - I'll leave that upto Nathan.  Feel free to comment.  Thank You.

Please post or PM me with your hiking experience or you will not be moved from the waitlist. 

 

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  ~ California 14'r ~ 

   

Hiking Category

Extreme Day Hike - This hike to Mount Langley is listed as extreme due to the distance, elevation gain, altitude, navigation, the variety of skills and equipment needed, and the possible lack of sleep. This is not recommended for new hikers. It is important that you know the way (or bring a GPS) in case you have to turn around as hikers will not be able to slow down or turn around with you without sacrificing their own attempt at the summit. I can email you a complete KML file of the route if you request it. Class 1-3.

Hiking Plan

We will be at the trailhead [masked], [masked]) at 5:00am, and we MAY or MAY NOT be placing a shuttle car at our exit point [masked], [masked]) versus returning to the TH. Once I know who is going we can coordinate this in advance. We will hike north up the trail until we reach the Cottonwood Lakes Basin at the meadow as seen in the photo below [masked], [masked]).

We will head west on the trail, and then NNW until we reach the bowl with Lake 3. We will traverse north around the lake and then climb Old Army Pass ( or just Army Pass for some ) which is on the west side of the lake (   Click here to see ).

From the top of the pass [masked],  [masked]) we shall make the final approach to Mount Langley which is seen in the photo above from Cirque Peak. At this point we will really feel the altitude, and though it is only 2 miles to the summit it may take us awhile to get there (14026') [masked], [masked]). There is some climbing involved in this section but not too much. After hanging out and enjoying the view we will hike back to the vehicles.

It is possible that we will get assaulted by hail or rain in the afternoon. The storms approach quickly, pelt us really hard, and then leave. Click here for the weather forecast

The elevation gain for this hike is about 4200 feet, and the round trip distance is 23 miles ( click here ). Mount Langley is the 58th tallest peak in the lower 48 United States as well an SPS peak.

Class What?

It is important that we all understand the rating system that organizers use on their hikes. For my hikes I generally use something close to the Yosemite Decimal System. I have seen many different versions of this system, and many are adamant that their version is the right version and etc.. The best description I have seen of the five classes that seems to encompass the most general idea may be found at Climber.org under ‘Five Classes of Climbing Difficulty’ ( click here ).

*** WAIVER OF LIABILITY *** The Organizers, and members in this group are not professional leaders, guides, or mountaineers. The function of the member or organizer is only to organize the trip. Each person who shows up for a trip/meetup (and their guest or guests) is responsible for his or her own safety. By attending a hike, or any other event organized by this group, you are acknowledging that you and any guests that you bring are aware of the risks, dangers and hazards associated with the activity and freely accept and fully assume all such risks, dangers and hazards, and further agree to release and discharge the Organizers, Members of the Kern Tulare Peak Baggers and Trail Hikers Meetup Group from and against any and all liability arising from your participation in the group activities.

 

 ~ California 14'r ~

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  • Dan J.

    Richard, Dave, Brad, thanks for coming out! Richard, I saw you and Dave come back and I went to say goodbye but only found dave. Looked around for a minute but didn't see you. Sorry about that. Thanks all, it was a great day!

    June 23

    • Richard D.

      Hello Dan, I had to make a personal pit stop if you know what I mean. Thanks again for your leadership and direction. It was an amazing experience! So surrealistic especially the sheep.

      June 23

  • Brad B.

    Congratulations on finishing the hike. As often happens I did not finish. I'm pondering what I am doing wrong.

    I lost the trail somewhere around Long Lake. I considered climbing to the top around there but decided not to. I looked to the South and saw the trail.

    Halfway up the New Army Pass switchbacks I decided to lighten my backpack by eating lunch. I had a cell phone signal and did things.

    At the top of New Army Pass I stopped and admired the view. To the North was the slope up to Mt Langley Peak. It looked menacing. To the South was a great view. I also respected the immediate area at the top of New Army Pass. One spot has a cell phone signal.

    I walked down to Old Army Pass and inspected the trail. Too much snow. It was about 1330. I decided to wait for you guys until 1400.

    Toward the end of the return Dan caught up with me.

    On the way home I pulled off the road and slept for an hour. I was probably a much safer driver the rest of the way. I pulled into my garage at midnight.

    June 22

  • Richard D.

    Hey Dave, how may Fourteeners have you summited now? It was great hiking back with you. I need the company because I was spent.

    June 22

    • Dave

      Richard that was #2 for me.

      June 22

    • Richard D.

      Good for you Dave! See you on the trails.

      June 22

  • Dave

    EPIC!!!!

    June 22

  • Richard D.

    Dan, thank you so much helping me summit my first Fourteener. Your spirit and good direction kept me going and on task.

    June 22

  • Dan J.

    Everything looks good. See you folks at 5am if not before. Lakes (upper) trailhead.

    June 20

  • Richard D.

    Whatever approach we use--Old Army or New Army-- to get to the peak, make sure you are DEETed up because there are clouds of mosquitos waiting for us on the shores of Cottonwood Lakes #4 and #5. This past weekend I hiked to the base of Old Army Pass to get ready for this hike and I was swarmed by mosquitos. I was DEETed up and only suffered one bite. There were hundred of blood sucking critters. The Old Army Pass looks so scary! I saw two hikers going up and two coming down. I met two hikers who summited the Old Pass.

    June 15

    • Keio O.

      Last summer I took Old Army downhill when there was no snow. There are one or two spots on that big long traverse down from the pass where folks have created split use trails to get around boulders in the trail or didn't want to go a few steps uphill to follow the best route around. Dipping down, one in particular was nasty, loose, steep, with 2 steps necessary to get across..I retreated back up and took the upper choice.

      June 20

    • Keio O.

      Other than making good micro-route choices, I thought, "What's the fuss?" It was a great trail. But right after snowmelt, the ground can be much softer and looser from freeze/thaw cycles. And there have been several very bad accidents there. Please take care! (Mother hen speaking..)

      June 20

  • Brad B.

    My cell provider is AT&T. I get coverage at the top of Old Army Pass. Once I called 911 from that location to report a Boy Scout leader who had a heart attack. If anyone needs help, that's where to go to communicate... if you're AT&T.

    June 20

  • Dan J.

    That's strange, for me it says 5am. Well, its 5am. Honestly we should probably be starting earlier but I thought a alpine start might scare folks away. NLT 5am. 5-sharp. somewhere between 4:59.9 and 5:00.1 am. Give or take a second.

    June 17

    • Brad B.

      Another place says between 5 and 8. I'll arrive Friday night after dark sometime.

      June 17

    • Dan J.

      Strange. Anyway, I'll see everyone 5am at the cottonwood lakes / new army pass trailhead at the upper parking lot. If anyone wants to look, they can try and find Nathan's micro-cache at the trail head.

      June 18

  • Brad B.

    The announcement states a start time between 0500 and 0800. Has this been narrowed down?

    June 17

  • Adrien B.

    Sorry guys, have to pull out. I hope somebody gets to take my spot!

    June 16

    • Dan J.

      Actually, there is no limit. For anyone on the wait list I didn't receive an e-mail with some info I asked. If anyone wants to join us still, you can, just send your experience level info when you join the waitlist.

      June 16

  • Dan J.

    A few notes about this weekend's hike:

    1) Most likely I will also be staying up at the trailhead, so after about 5pm on Friday I will NOT have access to web. FYI.

    2) A reminder this is a TOUGH hike. Everyone may have the goal of reaching the top, but not everyone will. Your only concrete plan should be a safe return to your car. 3) Please know the route. While it would be nice if we all stay togeather, at some point people will need to set their pace. My bet is that the group will spread out around the switchbacks for new army pass. Don't expect others to slow down for you, so everyone needs to know their route. 4) Speaking of the route, one pointer... after new army you head north toward Langley. Just before the final push to the summit is an area of class 2+/3+. You will know it when you get there. My advise is to stay left (west) and follow the ducks. If you go right you end up in class 3+.

    5) I'm not a guide. You are responsible for your own safety and travel.

    1 · June 16

    • Dave

      I will find a spot on either side available. I'll save space for you. Hopefully I'll find one at the cottonwood lakes trailhead. If not I'll be over near the cottonwood pass side.

      June 16

    • Dan J.

      I figured by the time I get up there on a FRI I would probably be car camping. But If there is space that will be great. Not sure what time I'll be up there, probably around 7:30 or 8pm. Should still be light this time of year.

      June 16

  • Richard D.

    I will be camping at Horseshoe Meadows. There is a walk-in camp right near the equestrian camp which is right near the trailhead. Turn right at the equestrian camp entrance sign and follow the road to the walk-in camp. There is parking for day hikers near the equestrian camp. This will save you some hiking distance. I was there this past weekend. The weather was very nice with clear skis. The night was cold. There was some wind. Not too many hikers. Great maintained trails. My goodness the High Sierras are the bestest!

    June 15

  • Dan J.

    I haven't gotten any votes on those three weekend dates... so for now I'll leave it smack in the middle. My pref would be either the 14th or the 21st. The four on the waitlist, please send me a quick note on your hiking experience. As I said, you may have done so before and I apologize for making you do it again. There may be room for placing and / or checking geocaches on this hike too; I'll let Nathan inform us on that. Check out his site for more info on geocaching. Don't forget swag if there is one up there or Nathan brings one to place along the way! (I haven't checked yet, but I think the top of the passes might be a great area to place one)

    May 19, 2014

    • Brad B.

      June 21 would work for me. As for my hiking skills, I haven't always been able to finish this hike. I've made it to the peak 3 times, always via Old Army Pass.

      June 7

    • Dan J.

      The plan right now is to go up via new army pass because I don't know if old army is clear yet. We can look at it on the way down. If its clear, then we will go down that route. I also thought we could take the "shortcut" via south lake on the way home if folks want to, that lets us see different ground.

      June 11

  • Dan J.

    Hey folks, we were up in the area two weeks ago and the snow is metling fast. Two weeks ago the consensus was that we could probably have done the hike that day via new army. Therefore I am going to move the hike to June to reduce the chances of lightning, plus it just might be cooler too. Maybe. I propose June 7th or June 14th or June 21. Also, for those on the waitlist I know some or many of you e-mailed me long ago but I was out of the country a few weeks back and I lost my e-mails (tried to encrypt or decrypt my phone). So If I don't know you, please shoot me a message real quick or feel free to post here w/ your expereince level and I'll add you. Remember, I just want to make sure nobody is jumping in over their head into the deep end. John, folks are welcome to set their own pace. You may want to drive yourself on this one since folks will finish at very different times?

    May 12, 2014

  • John

    Id like to go on this, but some of you hike WAAY too fast, and I don't want to have to worry about hike leaders checking to see if they're leaving ppl behind, bec this group doesn't seem to do that much...

    April 25, 2014

  • Dan J.

    Hey everyone - I've been gone for awhile - for those on the wait-list, don't worry, I'll go over the list again fairly soon and let folks in. Really I'm just waiting for the date to get closer before doing too much. Right now, if anything, I'd say we could poentially move the date ealier into June even. But if folks like the current date we could just leave it alone too.

    April 8, 2014

  • Julie

    Thanks Dan, I am excited and can't wait

    January 21, 2014

  • Dan J.

    That's all TBD. I think last time, and its been a few years, people did that or stayed in a motel in lone pine. I think I car camped. But there are camp grounds too. I'll go ahead and add people but remember this is a "place holder" in so much that its a plan of action, but not by any means a certain date yet. I may move it to June if we get no big storms this year. I was up on owens last weekeend and the snow load looking north is near zero.... very sad!

    1 · January 21, 2014

  • Megan D. W.

    Will people be camping at or near the trail head? Or do we drive in that morning?

    January 20, 2014

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