addressalign-toparrow-leftarrow-rightbackbellblockcalendarcameraccwcheckchevron-downchevron-leftchevron-rightchevron-small-downchevron-small-leftchevron-small-rightchevron-small-upchevron-upcircle-with-checkcircle-with-crosscircle-with-pluscontroller-playcrossdots-three-verticaleditemptyheartexporteye-with-lineeyefacebookfolderfullheartglobegmailgooglegroupshelp-with-circleimageimagesinstagramFill 1light-bulblinklocation-pinm-swarmSearchmailmessagesminusmoremuplabelShape 3 + Rectangle 1ShapeoutlookpersonJoin Group on CardStartprice-ribbonprintShapeShapeShapeShapeImported LayersImported LayersImported Layersshieldstartickettrashtriangle-downtriangle-uptwitteruserwarningyahoo

Utah Canyoneering II!

  • May 9, 2013 · 5:00 PM
  • This location is shown only to members

 

Utah is full of astonishingly beautiful and mysterious technical canyons. Hidden within these canyons are sparkling swimming pools, soaring walls, exciting rappels, enchanting chambers, spooky slots, fun potholes, and the most beautiful stone on earth. So join us for a technical canyoneering trip to explore these amazing wild treasures. If you are new to canyoneering, check out these websites for more info:

http://canyoneeringusa.com/utah/index.htm

http://climb-utah.com/

http://www.math.utah.edu/~sfolias/

We will decide which canyons we are going to descend as we get closer to the trip, but I wanted to go ahead and give everyone a heads-up on the dates for our canyoneering trips.

The canyons we will explore will be wet canyons with lots of big fun swimming pools! So you will need a wetsuit. A minimum of 3 mm on the torso, 4-6 mm is much better, and get a full wetsuit not a shorty.

We will leave Thursday night after work and drive to Utah. Fri, Sat, and Sun morning we will explore beautiful canyons. We will drive home Sunday afternoon. The trip will either be car-camping or backpacking and we will camp in a remote place surrounded by wild vistas and a huge vault of stars overhead.

Lets go rappel and swim through the most beautiful stone on earth!

Rom

 

***********************************************

Updated[masked]

******************************************

It's time to start getting prepared for our canyoneering trip. Here are the trip details.

We are currently planning to go to the Ticaboo area as long as we have enough high clearance vehicles.  It appears that we have enough HCV's so most likely we will go to Ticaboo.

Canyon Beta:

Good Day Jim:

http://files.meetup.com/1640198/gooddayjim-powell.pdf

http://files.meetup.com/1640198/Good%20Day%20Jim.pdf

http://files.meetup.com/1640198/sevenmile.jpg

Hard Day Harvey:

http://files.meetup.com/1640198/harddayharvey-powell.pdf

http://files.meetup.com/1640198/Hard%20Day%20HArvey.pdf

http://files.meetup.com/1640198/sevenmile.jpg

Inferno:

http://files.meetup.com/1640198/inferno-canyon-powell.pdf

The "Technical Slot Canyon Guide to the Colorado Plateau", 2nd Edition by Michael Kelsey has beta on these canyons too. You can get that book at Neptune's or REI.

 

Itinerary:

Thursday night, May 9th: Drive to the Ticaboo area and camp near the Good Day Jim or Hard Day Harvey trailheads

Friday: Good Day Jim

Saturday: Hard Day Harvey

Sunday: Inferno, drive home

 

Carpooling:

If you are kind enough to drive then post to the group that you are looking for riders. If you need a ride then post that to the group.

The roads to the Ticaboo canyons require a high clearance vehicle. A Subaru type vehicle can easily make it.  We used a Subaru last time and made it easily.  People have made it before with normal cars but you will definitely bottom out a couple of times.

 

Directions to the Campsite:

See the beta for directions to the Good Day Jim and Hard Day Harvey trailheads.  When I was there last about four years ago I remember that there were not any great campsites at either of the trailheads.  We picked the best of the two and camped there. Better campsites might be available now that these canyons have become very popular.

Here is what we should do.  Whichever car gets to these trailheads first should check both of them out, and also check a mile before and after these trailheads to find the best group campsite.  Pick the best campsite for the group that you can find and then put a sign or sheet of paper in the window that says "Meetup" so that we know who you are.  Everybody arriving later in the night just camp there.


Meet:

Your carpool can caravan down with us Thursday night, or just arrive at the campsite whenever you want.

We will all meet at the campsite on Friday morning at 8:00 AM. Make sure you are all geared up and completely ready to go at 8:00 AM. We will split everyone into rope teams and give everybody some group gear to carry. So make sure to have extra space in your pack to carry group gear (mostly ropes, webbing, pothole escape gear, anchor gear, ...)

 

Wetsuits:

These canyons had water in mid-March, with some full pools.  There has not been any postings of the water conditions in these canyons since then.  Most of the canyons in southern Utah are reporting fairly dry conditions.  My guess is that these canyons will be fairly dry with only some wading in knee-thigh deep pools or less. However, a 30% chance of rain is forecast for Tues-Thurs and if it rains in the Ticaboo then they could fill up.  So I really have no idea. We should probably bring wetsuits in the cars at least to be safe. A few people could carry them on the first day/canyon to see how the conditions are.  Again, my guess is that we won't need them but you never know, and it really sucks to freeze in a canyon without a wetsuit if it is full of cold water.

 

Car-camping:

We will car-camp for the entire trip. Since we are car-camping you can bring all of the gear that you need to be happy. The camping will be primitive with no facilities whatsoever, and far from any city, so be prepared with everything that you need.

Water:

There is no water at the campsite, so bring all of the water that you will need for the entire trip.

Going to the Bathroom:

Bring some toilet paper, a lighter, and some hand sanitizer to go to the bathroom. You will use the lighter to burn your toilet paper.

 

Athletic Ability:

Canyoneering requires you to be in very good physical condition and to be athletic. The approaches require walking long distances in backcountry terrain. Descending these canyons safely requires you to be athletic, with good coordination, strong, and tough. You don't need to be a rock climber because generally you will be going down, but there are many similarities between climbing and canyoneering. Just be prepared to be a warrior and to fight a tough battle!

Technical/Rappeling Experience:

We will do some rappels in these canyons so it would be nice if you had some experience rappelling. Rappelling is easy and anybody can do it. If you have never rappelled or have little experience, try to get out and practice a little bit before we go. It will help you and all of us to do these canyons safely. The canyoneering veterans on this trip will build all the rappel anchors and take care of all the technical issues in the canyons.

Wetsuits:

You need a full wetsuit with at least 3 mm on the torso and 2 mm on the arms/legs, 4-6 mm on the torso and 3-5 mm on the arms/legs is much better.

Pack Size:

Make sure to have some extra space in your pack to help carry group gear such as ropes, webbing, pull lines, pothole escape gear, ... We will be carrying a lot of gear to make sure that we can safely descend the canyons. We spread out the technical gear among everyone so that one or two people are not totally overloaded. The reason I am saying this is that sometimes people show up (especially newbies) with tiny packs and cannot help carry any group gear, which forces one or two people to have to carry everything. A pack size of at least 30-40 liters is appropriate.

Canyoneering Gear:

Here is the gear that you need to come on the canyoneering trip. Please make sure to have this gear because it will be crucial for your survival and the safety of the group.

MANDATORY

Rappelling gear:
climbing harness, belay device, 2 large locking biners, 2 normal biners, rappel glove
We might rappel sometimes on a single 8 mm rope, so it helps to have one of those new belay devices that has a tight toothed section for small ropes. Black Diamond and Petzl make them. However, you can always add more biners for friction if you don’t want to buy a new belay device, but it is better and safer to have a new one.

Rappel Glove:

Some people have asked about the rappel glove. You dont need to buy an expensive climbing glove. Just go to Home Depot and buy a cheap leather glove. Make sure it has some kind of a loop on it so you can attach it to a biner on your harness. Please make sure to have some kind of a glove for rappelling. Having a glove if something goes wrong on rappel can save your life.

Prusik slings:

Bring these just in case we need to go up something, a difficult rappel, or rescues. Prusik slings are a 10 foot length and 6 foot length of 6 mm climbing cord. We will show you how to make the slings. Also bring a 3.5 foot length of 6 mm climbing cord. This can be used as a rappel backup in case we cannot give you a firemans belay.

Webbing:

Everyone needs to bring two 15 foot lengths of 1 inch width webbing. One length of webbing will be used to lower your pack. The other can help with a handline or be used to build an anchor.

Drybag:

Get a big drybag that fits the inside of your daypack. You will put all of your gear in the drybag in the pack and it will keep everything dry when we have to swim a pool. You can get drybags for around $15 at REI or Neptunes.

Helmet:

Bring a rock climbing helmet or possibly even a bike helmet. You need some kind of a helmet to protect your head in case you fall.

Knee/Elbow Pads:

You must have knee pads and elbow pads. These pads are absolutely crucial for down-climbing the canyons. Just go to Sports Authority and get the cheap $5 foam pads. They work great. Cover them with duct tape so they will last longer.

Wetsuit:

You need a full wetsuit with at least 3 mm on the torso and 2 mm on the arms/legs, 4-6 mm on the torso and 3-5 mm on the arms/legs is much better.

Helpful

Canyoneering Shoes:

Most people use some kind of a trail shoe. A shoe that has a Vibram sole or climbing rubber is best because it is more sticky on the rock. You can also use tennis shoes, but they tend to slip on the rock, and fall apart in the canyons. I use an "approach shoe". It has sticky climbing rubber but can also go hiking. Neptune sells the 5.10 Canyoneering Shoes. They are great and cost about $100. Also think about the shoe being in water and making moves on wet rock or with wet shoes.

Clothes to Shred:

Canyoneering eats your clothes. Make sure to go to Savers/Goodwill and buy some cheap clothes for the canyons to shred. The cheap clothes will also be worn over your wetsuit to protect the wetsuit.

Gloves:

Some people like to wear those Atlas Thermal Fit Nitrile gloves for canyoneering and keeping your hands warm in water. You can get those at McGuckins or Home Depot for $5.

Socks:

Some people like to wear neoprene socks to keep their feet warm when swimming or wading in cold water.

Anchor Gear:
If you have any webbing, cord, rappel rings, and quick links please bring them to help with building rappel anchors. The more webbing and anchor gear that we have the safer we will be.

Ropes:

If you have any ropes, bring them. We can use multiple ropes to move people more quickly through the canyons. Old ropes and especially shorter sections of ropes are very useful and allow us to bring a rope that matches the longest rappel in the canyon.

GPS System:

If you have a GPS system, then please bring it to help with navigation. Backup GPS is extremely valuable in case mine goes down.


Okay, looking forward to our grand adventure in the desert!

Rom

 

By participating in this event you agree to the following Release of Liability:

http://www.meetup.com/Spectacular-Adventures/pages/Spectacular_Adventures_Release_of_Liability/

 

 

Join or login to comment.

  • Max P.

    Acquired an BD rock lock screwgate at some point over the trip (sorry!)...let me know how it is marked and I will make sure to get it back to you.

    May 13, 2013

    • Diana L.

      Hey Max, I just found my BD rock lock under the front seat of the Jeep while I was looking for something else so the biner you have isn't mine.

      May 22, 2013

    • Max P.

      Bummer...and I thought I found an owner...hope to see you guys next time!

      May 23, 2013

  • Diana L.

    Ticaboo canyoneering was truly a spectacular (a.k.a crazy) adventure!

    May 16, 2013

  • Tom

    Ticaboo gets its name from Ticaboo Creek, which was named by Cass Hite in the 1880s, for a Paiute word meaning "friendly". -Wikipedia. That seems about right. Thanks everyone for such a great trip!

    1 · May 15, 2013

  • Diana L.

    Thanks everyone for the awesome trip! Chris and I were blown away with this group. Special thanks to Rom & Orlando for leading, organizing and welcoming a couple of newbies and thanks to everyone for great company.

    2 · May 14, 2013

  • Jason M.

    My first time in a canyon... I'll never forget it. Thanks to all of you for making it such a memorable trip.

    1 · May 13, 2013

  • Matt

    It is totally amazing how well this trip came together without a hitch - in such a beautiful place, with wonderful weather, and awesome people.

    1 · May 13, 2013

  • orlando

    This was an amazing trip, I love the canyons and the people. Thanks every one you are the best =)

    2 · May 13, 2013

  • Katherine Pearl Z.

    Super trip. Thanks to everybody, especially Rom, for making it so awesome!

    1 · May 13, 2013

  • Peter

    Awesome Canyoneering experience. The US canyons are a lot different to those back in Oz - I'll be back for more!

    1 · May 13, 2013

  • Rom M.

    Well our Utah II canyoneering trip was awesome. Recent rains earlier in the week have filled the canyons in south-east Utah. We went to the Ticaboo Mesa area and found a beautiful campsite overlooking Lake Powell. Fri, we did Good Day Jim and it was fun with lots of pools and fun slots. Sat, was the epic of Hard Day Harvey and it was fantastic with lots of deep chambers and tight squeezes. Sun, we did Woody and it was totally awesome with lots of super fun pool jumps. All the potholes were totally full so we spent the day doing big jumps into the fun pools. What a great trip!

    1 · May 13, 2013

  • Will W.

    Challenging and fun, exactly how it should be! 10/10, would canyoneer again!

    1 · May 13, 2013

  • Max P.

    spectacular

    May 13, 2013

  • orlando

    let me see how meny people i have in the car maybe get some on the way

    May 9, 2013

    • Julie W.

      Me too, probably 5-10 mins away at this pt

      May 9, 2013

    • Julie W.

      [masked]

      May 9, 2013

  • orlando

    i dont have time to print out the way to the camp can someone bring that?

    May 9, 2013

    • Julie W.

      I've got a printout of the directions.

      May 9, 2013

  • Rom M.

    We just remembered about firewood. Our car is full. Can some cars please bring some firewood for fun fires at night.

    May 9, 2013

  • orlando

    i will be at Wolly at 5, my number is[masked] if you need it

    May 9, 2013

  • Devin R.

    Hi there,

    Sorry about the late entry on here. I am for sure driving my vehicle up there. It is a big Toyota Sequoia 4wd. Should be able to fit 2 more people in there comfortably, or 3 might not be too bad. Currently I am driving myself and Jesse. I will be able to be at the lot at 5:00pm tomorrow, but I might have to come back a little early on Sunday. Please let me know if anyone wants to ride with us and maybe split the cost of gas.

    Thanks and I can't wait! :-)

    May 8, 2013

    • phu

      Hi Devin, can I carpool with you guys? I've also asked Jason on here but haven't heard back from him. He could join us to have a full car too.

      May 9, 2013

  • Rom M.

    Hey I just checked and Hanksville, Utah got 0.25 inches of rain on Tuesday. I am hoping that might have added some water to the canyons so we will have some pools to play in. We will see.

    Jason, my guess is that we will not need wetsuits. However, with the recent rain you never know. You are welcome to come. You just might freeze your %>&* if the canyons are full.

    May 9, 2013

    • Jason M.

      Haha, alright. I'm willing to take that chance. See you at camp!

      May 9, 2013

  • Jason M.

    Whoa, room for one more canyoneering noob? No wetsuit, but it doesn't really sound like I'll need one. Rom? Thoughts?

    May 9, 2013

  • Rom M.

    Well I just scanned the postings again and it seems as though we still have six people leaving early and three cars: Rom, Kendra, Tom, Peter, Bonnie, Alim. Bonnie and Alim, do you mind if someone else rides with you? :) Then we could have two cars with three people each. If you guys want some privacy :), then maybe we could put the other four in Tom's Jeep GC. Tom said that he has done that before, and we have put four in cars many many times. You just put gear between people in the backseat. Tom, is that option okay too?

    May 8, 2013

    • Tom

      Noon is good for me.

      May 8, 2013

    • Rom M.

      Okay, we haven't heard from Bonnie/Alim so I will see the early crew at Wooly Mammoth at the JJ sign at noon. See you then!

      May 8, 2013

  • Talya

    Unfortunately, I have one too many conflicts :( Really bummed to miss it but hope you all have fun!

    May 8, 2013

  • Jason

    Oh, never mind. I see that it is the Wholly Mammoth parking lot. I will be there at 5:00.

    May 8, 2013

    • phu

      Jason, can I get a ride with you?

      May 8, 2013

  • Jason

    I see that the trip is leaving at 5:00 but don't see where the meeting spot is. I live in Denver and would be willing to drive or ride with someone. I have a Subaru Outback.

    May 8, 2013

  • Rom M.

    Okay I just posted some info on finding our campsite and my ramblings about possibly needing wetsuits. I also just looked through the postings and see that these people could leave early on Thursday: Rom, Kendra, Bonnie, Matt, Peter, and Tom. There are six of us and three cars. It would seem to be better if we could consolidate into two cars or three people per car. Bonnie, maybe you could ride with us, and Peter/Tom could pick up Matt in Keystone? Or does anyone have any good ideas to help us consolidate?

    1 · May 7, 2013

    • Will W.

      Thanks for posting the campsite info, it's my first meetup with you all. Looks like it'll be a good time! Normally I'd also offer up my car as a carpool, but I might have to go to SLC afterwards.

      May 7, 2013

    • Matt

      Hey Tom, I will give Katherine and Audrey a ride. Won't be too crowded that way and the timing works better for them.

      May 8, 2013

  • Alim

    I have to work part of the day so Bonnie and I are leaving at 1:00 with a high probability of having a HCV.

    May 7, 2013

  • Max P.

    I would love to jump in on this but have to work a full day on Thursday. I can get to the Wolly Lot by 5:30pm. Does anyone still have room and does this work for anybody? I could also drive if there is anyone that needs a ride at that time on Thursday (2WD but high clearance) but would rather not since my vehicle is kinda a beater. No big deal if it doesn't work out...I can wait until the potholes fill up and go in the fall. Let me know!

    May 7, 2013

    • orlando

      hay can you make it by 5?

      May 7, 2013

    • Max P.

      Yup...I do believe I can pull that off!

      May 7, 2013

  • orlando

    so should we still bring a wetsuit?

    May 7, 2013

  • orlando

    so are we going to pick a place to meet for carpools on the 9th i realy dont want to dive the hloe way. or wast all the gas just for me.
    so let me know i got a trooper with just me in it.

    May 6, 2013

    • Max P.

      me too orlando! got any room?

      May 7, 2013

    • orlando

      ok matt, julie, and max your with me now. i can be at the wolly at 430 and leave at 5. just let me know if you cant make it.

      1 · May 7, 2013

  • Julie W.

    Hi all, I'd like to ride with someone, I can be at the wooly mammoth lot at 5 pm, who still has space?

    May 7, 2013

  • Rom M.

    Okay I just posted beta on the Ticaboo canyons in the Trip Description. I will post directions to our campsite on Tuesday.

    Kendra, when can you leave on Thursday? How many people are in your car?

    Orlando, you are welcome to caravan with us if you would like. How many people are in your car?

    May 6, 2013

  • Peter

    Can anyone fit me in their ride? Leaving from Denver anytime Thursday (preferably not evening).

    May 6, 2013

    • Tom

      Peter, I can certainly give you a ride. I want to leave early, too. I'll suggest 11:00 AM as a departure time, but I am very flexible. I should be able to fit a couple additonal people if anyone else can do an earlier start.

      May 6, 2013

    • Peter

      Cool - 11 works well.

      May 6, 2013

  • Rom M.

    Okay I just scanned the posts and it appears that we may have enough high clearance vehicles to do the Ticaboo canyons. If you don't have a spot in a high clearance vehicle, then you need to speak up, otherwise I think we can plan on the Ticaboo canyons. I will go ahead and post beta and campsite directions to the Ticaboo canyons later tonight, unless we hear from people having trouble finding rides in HCV's. The Swell will of course be our fun backup plan if the HCV rides do not work out.

    Peter, everybody needs to find their own ride. We let the power of the internet solve this problem.

    May 6, 2013

  • Matt

    I would also vote for the swell but would be up for either. I have a honda element and could drive two others if you think it would suffice for ticaboo. Otherwise i'd be looking for a ride from boulder around 4 or 5. Do you still have any spots in your car orlando?

    May 2, 2013

  • Peter

    Oh - and I live in Denver.

    May 2, 2013

  • Peter

    My 2c. I have a Sorento which is lower than a Subaru, but wouldn't really put me off taking it. I'd personally prefer a canyon with water/jumps. As this would be my first trip to Utah canyons, I'm happy to go anywhere. Are we to sort ourselves out for car-pooling, or is someone going to coordinate a match for cars & people factoring in best fit for where we're going and where folks live? I'm good to leave Thursday anytime whether taking my own car or sharing a ride.

    May 2, 2013

  • Matt

    Hi Rom, considering your statement I would like to throw in my vote for the Swell, but would be happy with either. Do you think a Subaru Outback would make the cut for Ticaboo? If not, I will need to get a ride, if so, I can take a rider (note that I live in Keystone)

    May 2, 2013

  • orlando

    i got one, its looking like im going to drive now i need 3 more people, i can do 5 in my car but it will be pack with gear

    May 2, 2013

  • Rom M.

    Well people seem to be leaning towards Ticaboo. That's fine but all the cars will need to be high clearance vehicles. What happened to all the people that enjoy water? The Swell canyons are mostly full and will have lots of fun pool jumps. We can even do two new canyons. But I understand that people would like to try a new place. Lets see how many high clearance vehicles that we can get and then see if Ticaboo is possible. We should probably decide soon and then I will post some canyon beta and directions.

    Kendra, I would like to ride with you if possible.

    May 2, 2013

  • orlando

    i can drive but i would rather carpool with someone my trooper works good it just eats gas and oil so if i have 4 its not bad to split. but i can fit 3 with me and gear. and i can leave at 4 or 5 on the 9th, i will try to get off as early as i can.

    May 2, 2013

  • A former member
    A former member

    I got a chance to visit my family this weekend that I can't pass up! Sorry! I'm in if we do it again in the Fall!

    May 2, 2013

  • Max P.

    I vote for ticaboo for something new...I will do my best to make it this time!

    May 1, 2013

  • Rom M.

    Everyone I just updated the trip description with the latest details. We are deciding between two canyon systems, and we need to figure out the carpool situation. Please read the updated trip description and post with your input.

    April 30, 2013

  • Katherine Pearl Z.

    The Ticaboo Mesa seems a fun place to explore, but if we'd be camping in a different place than last fall, I wouldn't mind taking on the Swell again.

    May 1, 2013

  • Alim

    From Denver and would like to ride/share driving with someone.

    April 30, 2013

  • A former member
    A former member

    OK, sounds good!

    April 26, 2013

  • Rom M.

    Michelle, we will start figuring out the carpool next week. I will also start looking at the water levels in all the canyon systems and decide on which canyons to do next week.

    April 22, 2013

  • A former member
    A former member

    Anyone driving from Boulder and want to carpool? I'll pitch in for gas and can help drive (if it's an automatic).

    April 20, 2013

  • Brad

    Bringing my wife. If she RSVP separately I will adjust my RSVP count.

    April 15, 2013

  • Nicole R.

    Canyoneering in Utah is nothing short of magical! I hope everyone enjoys the trip!

    April 6, 2013

  • Matt

    Yes! I can finally make a canyoneering trip! Psyched!

    March 30, 2013

People in this
Meetup are also in:

Sign up

Meetup members, Log in

By clicking "Sign up" or "Sign up using Facebook", you confirm that you accept our Terms of Service & Privacy Policy