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Re: [The-Burnsville-Socrates-Cafe]­ 10/9/13 questions and discussion - Hi Dick, you must be back from fishing. Hope you caught the "BIG ONE". Thanks for sending all this info. I will be s margarete l. Oct 13, 2013 6:25 PM
10/9/13 questions and discussion - 10/9/13 questions and discussion Mike: as one who's older than all else here, I remember being shown junior high school those movies about sex, venereal disease etc., emphasizing conformity, nice manners, ideals of behavior. I've read a bit on this sub Jon A. Oct 13, 2013 7:13 AM
(The St. Paul SC) 10/2/13 questions and discussion - 10/2/13 questions and discussion 1-what should we be worried about?3/2 2-have we sown the seeds of our own downfall?3/3/2 3-can we cooperate or have we created a system where cooperation is no longer necessary?2/0 4-when do you know who you are?3/3/ Jon A. Oct 13, 2013 6:36 AM
10/1/13 questions and discussion - 10/1/13 1-given the decrease in living wage employment, why work hard?4 2-what will the world look like in 200 years?5 3-have we lost our republic, have we become an oligarchy?7/3 4-what's the relationship between fact, reality, and truth?7/7 5-wh Jon A. Oct 10, 2013 6:46 AM
9/14/13 questions and discussion - 9/24/13 questions and discussion 1-where is the tyranny?5 2-should blind people be allowed to own and operate guns?5 3-is racial profiling ever warranted?6 4-do we give too much credibility to the wealthy and powerful, and too quickly?7 5-what is n Jon A. Sep 30, 2013 11:19 AM
Tomorrow night - Whoa! I have no idea when I work TOMORROW! Please forgive my error, see ya Tuesday. Jon ============================ If there is a problem and you can't do anything about it, why be upset? If there is a problem and you can do something abo Jon A. Sep 23, 2013 8:47 AM
Tonight - Reminder: tonight we'll meet at Caribou Coffee, near Nicollet and Hwy 13 . . . Except for me -- I work later than usual. I will miss talking with you. Jon ============================ If there is a problem and you can't do anything about it, w Jon A. Sep 23, 2013 7:29 AM
9/17/13 questions and discussion - 9/17/13 questions and discussion 1-what might be better than the Protestant Work Ethic?4 2-which is more difficult to change: a long held belief or a long held habit?6 3-should we outlaw American football?3 4-do we own our kids or do we owe our kids Jon A. Sep 21, 2013 4:53 PM
Re: Socrates Café question[masked] - From the Monday Star Tribune comes this Katherine Anne Porter quote: Dick S. Sep 17, 2013 9:32 PM
Re: [The-Burnsville-Socrates-Cafe]­ Apology - Jon: I didn't know if you knew that the room wasn't reserved. I did receive the apology. Jim On Sep 17, 2013, at 2:09 PM, Jon Anderson wrote: > Jim, > > Sorry about last week! (did my email apology via Meetup not arrive?). > > Gina assure user 1. Sep 17, 2013 2:11 PM
Re: [The-Burnsville-Socrates-Cafe]­ Apology - Jim, Sorry about last week! (did my email apology via Meetup not arrive?). Gina assures me we do have the room tonight. Jon ============================ If there is a problem and you can't do anything about it, why be upset? If there is a Jon A. Sep 17, 2013 2:09 PM
Re: [The-Burnsville-Socrates-Cafe]­ Apology - Jon: Don't know if you know it , or not, but Davani's was not reserved this past Tuesday. I don't know if it has been reserved for this Tuesday either. What are the plans for this coming Tuesday? Jim On Sep 11, 2013, at 5:22 AM, Jon Anderson wro user 1. Sep 14, 2013 5:55 PM
Apology - To All, Sorry about last night! Hope to see you next week. Jon ============================ If there is a problem and you can't do anything about it, why be upset? If there is a problem and you can do something about it, why be upset? Jon A. Sep 11, 2013 5:22 AM
Domestic violence isn't just a women's issue - Very much pertinent to Andrews question and Jon's comment, last Tuesday: Recent violence in Minnesota reflect Dick S. Sep 8, 2013 12:15 PM
9/3/13 questions and discussion - 9/3/13 questions and discussion [note to all: this week's discussion moved much faster than I could type, meaning I missed much and have likely ascribed statements incorrectly below and/or have left valuable comments out altogether.] 1-if men and wo Jon A. Sep 6, 2013 12:13 PM
Re: [The-Burnsville-Socrates-Cafe]­ Lunch with a nun - very funny Luda L. Aug 29, 2013 7:35 PM
8/27/13 questions and discussion - 8/27/13 questions and discussion 1-how do we define a healthy self-image?4 2-should we ban the "box" in job applications?5 3-are we "locked out"?5 4-is atheism a religion?6 5-can any functioning institution survive a review of fairness or equality? Jon A. Aug 29, 2013 6:15 AM
Lunch with a nun - Preview not available Dick S. Aug 28, 2013 6:39 PM
8/21/12 questions and discussion - 8/21/13 questions and discussion 1-what do we call hard work?2 2-is our current weak work climate here to stay?4 3-what are the 10 easiest ways to solve the problem of our dysfunctional Congress?3 ========================== is our current weak Jon A. Aug 27, 2013 10:31 AM
8/20/13 questions and discussion - 8/20/13 questions and discussion 1-why is Bobbie Jindal worried his party is becoming the "Stupid Party"?9 2-are any cultures inherently more virtuous than others?6 3-why is the Tea Party so afraid of the changes we face?5 4-is ignorance bliss?4 5- Jon A. Aug 25, 2013 10:28 AM
8/14/13 questions and discussion - 8/14/13 questions and discussion 1-how can we not spoil our kids?5 2-why do we work? Why do you work?5 3-does faith make you healthier?2 4-what does mystery mean in terms of human experience?4 ============================= why do we work? Why Jon A. Aug 21, 2013 10:25 AM
8/13/13 questions and discussion - 8/13/13 questions and discussion 1-how hard should we work?5 2-why are the Jews always the scapegoats?4 3-should we fear our politicians or should our politicians fear us?3 4-is ignorance really bliss?6 5-is people-kind doing itself in via greed?8 Jon A. Aug 21, 2013 8:39 AM
8/6/13 questions and discussion - 8/6/13 questions and discussion 1-how could we think more skillfully?6 2-is ignorance truly bliss?5 3-were we also "locked out"?7 4-what are the pros and cons of state vs. federal power?6 5-what makes so many people fear/hate atheists?8 6-should w Jon A. Aug 13, 2013 7:18 AM
7/30/13 questions and discussion - 7/30/13 questions and discussion 1-should congress have an age limitation?2 2-what beliefs are consistent with democracy?6 3-is it admirable that Obama gets things done in spite of the resistance in Congress and in spite of law?3 4-are we morally re Jon A. Aug 6, 2013 6:58 PM
Fwd: Edge #397 - NSA: THE DECISION PROBLEM by George Dyson - Begin forwarded message: A follow-up on the excessive secrecy issue. Be sure to click on the link toward the bottom. I guess they know what I'm thinking. Dick S. Dick S. Jul 26, 2013 1:43 PM
Meetup details changed: The Burnsville Socrates Cafe Meetup - I've updated this Meetup. For more details, see the full listing: http://www.meetup.com/The-Burn­sville-Socrates-Cafe/events/13­1256412/ When Jon A. Jul 25, 2013 5:27 AM
John Searle on TED.com - This subject has been brought up or touched upon in previous Café discussions. Check out this amazing TED Talk: Dick S. Jul 24, 2013 11:30 PM
The Death Cafe discussion group steers its members on how to live - Preview not available Dick S. Jul 23, 2013 10:05 PM
Re: [The-Burnsville-Socrates-Cafe]­ Snowden: Symptom or Disease? - Larry seems to have a wizened view. But as an authoritarian military man who is convinced he "knows the absolute truth" about these things I'm t Jim Jul 16, 2013 1:16 PM
Snowden: Symptom or Disease? - A bit more follow-up from last Tuesday's question. This in, today, from TRNN - Larry Wilkinson: http://therealnews.com/t2/inde­x.php?option=com_content&task=­view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=1­0426 Some people still take great risk in speaking out. Dic Dick S. Jul 15, 2013 11:50 PM
Re: [The-Burnsville-Socrates-Cafe]­ Business - This story is seriously freaky.  Thanks, Dick, for once again enlightening me.  I won't be there tomorrow night, but I'll see y'all next week! On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 Meg Jul 15, 2013 2:20 PM
Business - What the Ed Snowden thing is supposed to be about. http://m.startribune.com/busin­ess/?id=215305841&c=y Dick Segers Sent from my iPhone 4S. Dick S. Jul 15, 2013 8:05 AM
Socrates Café -[masked] - Dick S. Jul 9, 2013 11:19 PM
July 2 meeting - Next week we meet at the Burnsville public library. See you there (thank you, Gina!) Jon A. Jun 29, 2013 11:12 AM
Fwd: Camera - p { margin: 0; } There's no more hiding... but I say: "life is good" anyhow. Margarete ----- Forwarded Mes margarete l. Jun 26, 2013 11:06 AM
Re: [The-Burnsville-Socrates-Cafe]­ Daniel Suarez on TED.com (A 20 minute, must see, video)) - scary On 6/18/13, Dick S. wrote: > WHAT'S IN THE FUTURE? Simple drones will become obsolete. >> Autonomous robotic drones are the future. >> >> Worse than A-bombs or H-bombs, IMHO. >> >> Dan Suarez is correct in thinking some int Andrusela Jun 25, 2013 6:23 AM
6/18/13 questions and discussion - 6/18/13 questions and discussion 1-are the wealthy more important to America's health than the rest of us?6 2-what are the uses for certainty?5 3-is it a good thing that we're still looking for Nazi war criminals from WW II?7 4-are the darkest place Jon A. Jun 19, 2013 6:11 AM
Daniel Suarez on TED.com (A 20 minute, must see, video)) - WHAT'S IN THE FUTURE? Simple drones will become obsolete. Autonomous robotic drones are the future. Dick S. Jun 18, 2013 10:00 PM
Re: [The-Burnsville-Socrates-Cafe]­ 6/11/13 questions and discussion - Hello, Bummer that I have not been able to make the discussions lately. Of ken b. Jun 12, 2013 4:22 PM
Re: [The-Burnsville-Socrates-Cafe]­ 6/11/13 questions and discussion - Of interest … since J. P. keeps bringing it up, here is a link to the June 12, 2013 edition of eSkeptic Dick S. Jun 12, 2013 9:10 AM
6/11/13 questions and discussion - 6/11/13 questions and discussion 1-is ignorance bliss?8 2-when someone starts answering a question with "look", what thoughts cross your mind?4 3-does humanity need to be led around by the nose?8 4-do we really have the right to pursue happiness?5 Jon A. Jun 12, 2013 8:04 AM
Philosophy’s PR Problem - http://dish.andrewsullivan.com­/2013/06/10/philosophys-pr-pro­blem/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_m­edium=twitter ==============================­================= If there is a problem you can do nothing about, why be upset? If there is a problem you can d Jon A. Jun 10, 2013 11:24 AM
Davanni's all the rest of June - Just a reminder that for the rest of June we'll be meeting at Davanni's. Jon A. Jun 10, 2013 5:31 AM
6/4/13 questions and discussion - 6/4/13 questions and discussion 1-how ought we balance our dreams with our realities when going to work?6 2-do we Americans treat animals ethically?9 3-how important is honesty and trust and would we be better off with more or less of both?7 4-what' Jon A. Jun 10, 2013 5:28 AM
message from Puffy - http://www.ipasa.ws/yr/pplgkpl­.html Brent Jun 7, 2013 12:15 PM
RE: [The-Burnsville-Socrates-Cafe]­ Laura Snyder on TED.com - Vivian M. Jun 6, 2013 8:29 AM
Fwd: eSkeptic: Food For Thought - Begin forwarded message: I was made aware this topic was selected,&n Dick S. Jun 5, 2013 7:05 PM
5/21/13 questions and discussion - 5/21/13 1-is mental illness moral?6/4/6 2-is there any way out of the ideological apparently unresolvable differences in America?6/2 3-is our industrialized food production system killing us?4 4-ought the government do more to regulate essential ser Jon A. May 23, 2013 10:07 AM
Re: [The-Burnsville-Socrates-Cafe]­ Burnsville Socrates Café -- Re: 1984 Message - Preview not available Andrusela May 22, 2013 6:25 AM
Re: [The-Burnsville-Socrates-Cafe]­ 5/14/13 questions and discussion - Shannon (and her "detractors"...ha... ;), You said -- "I wi Brent May 20, 2013 2:11 PM
Re: [The-Burnsville-Socrates-Cafe]­ 5/14/13 questions and discussion - Shannon, Is it true inside your claim that some ethical choices are *always* better than others? Jon A. May 19, 2013 12:35 PM
Re: [The-Burnsville-Socrates-Cafe]­ 5/14/13 questions and discussion - Shannon May 19, 2013 11:12 AM
Re: [The-Burnsville-Socrates-Cafe]­ 5/14/13 questions and discussion - Jim, I used John's example to emphasize the extreme we must go to to find "support" for an objective morality. That's why I then asked if Jon A. May 16, 2013 9:07 PM
Re: [The-Burnsville-Socrates-Cafe]­ 5/14/13 questions and discussion - But Shannon, it seems the bottom line of morality in your mind is something objective and simultaneously unprovable. If unprovable, then all that i Jon A. May 16, 2013 8:45 PM
Re: [The-Burnsville-Socrates-Cafe]­ 5/14/13 questions and discussion - Why would it necessarily be a matter of faith? (I certainly do not think we need to invoke "God" to establish a syste Shannon May 16, 2013 11:45 AM
Re: [The-Burnsville-Socrates-Cafe]­ 5/14/13 questions and discussion - Hi Group, Brent May 16, 2013 10:56 AM
Re: [The-Burnsville-Socrates-Cafe]­ 5/14/13 questions and discussion - Jon: Not to interfere with John's logic, but that was his point. That no society based on the freedom to murder other memb user 1. May 16, 2013 9:41 AM
Re: [The-Burnsville-Socrates-Cafe]­ 5/14/13 questions and discussion - To Shannon's statement: I am eager for the "basis" for the judgements of which you write to be made explicit. Lacking that it boils down to faith. Jon A. May 16, 2013 8:56 AM
Re: [The-Burnsville-Socrates-Cafe]­ 5/14/13 questions and discussion - Shannon, I am sorry to misrepresent your ideas from Tuesday, and thank you for the good clarification you've posted. Jon ==============================­================= If there is a problem you can do nothing about, why be upset? If there is Jon A. May 16, 2013 8:00 AM
Re: [The-Burnsville-Socrates-Cafe]­ 5/14/13 questions and discussion - Dick S. May 15, 2013 11:41 PM
Re: [The-Burnsville-Socrates-Cafe]­ 5/14/13 questions and discussion - Just to clarify from last nights conversation, when arguing against ethical relativism my point is not to try to asse Shannon May 15, 2013 10:52 AM
5/14/13 questions and discussion - 5/14/13 questions and discussion 1-why do we often associate mental illness with immorality?7 2-is our volunteer military actually voluntary, and is it actually working for us?8 3-ought we be concerned with the changing minority/majority statuses in Jon A. May 15, 2013 9:25 AM
5/7/13 questions and discussion - 5/7/13 1-is PC really necessary?9 2-do we have a constitutional right to internet access?12 3-is the constitution just another piece of parchment nowadays?7 4-what purpose does the devil serve when we're already evil?7 5-was the younger Boston bom Jon A. May 13, 2013 7:34 AM
Burnsville Socrates Café -- Re: 1984 Message - Dick S. May 11, 2013 12:50 PM
1984 Naïveté - Still don't believe? Dick S. May 7, 2013 10:10 PM
A More Perfect Union - Constitution - May 7th Dick S. May 7, 2013 8:20 PM
4/30/13 questions and discussion - 4/30/13 questions and discussion 1-how do we feel about the predicted loss of all privacy in public places in the next few years?6 2-is this a virtual reality?3 3-is it better that 10 guilty people go free than one innocent person go to prison?5 4 Jon A. May 1, 2013 11:29 AM
Socrates Café -- Lester - Dick S. Apr 30, 2013 10:19 PM
4/23/13 questions and discussion - 4/23/13/ questions and discussion 1-[Jon, your darling typist, got there late this night and missed the other questions. Andrew may still have his notes so contact him should anyone wish to read 'em] ==============================­======= Jon A. Apr 25, 2013 7:57 AM
Tonight - Howdy all! I work to 6:30 again tonight. This means I will optimistically arrive there (at Davanni's) 15-20 minutes late. Go ahead and enjoy yourselves anyway. Jon Jon A. Apr 23, 2013 10:07 AM
4-6-13 questions and discussion - 4/16/13 questions and discussion 1-Is voluntary military service truly voluntary and is it in our Nation’s best interest?9 2-why was individualism invented?3 3-How will less expensive weaponry change the ethics of war?8 4-how can one be held moral Jon A. Apr 18, 2013 10:15 AM
Re: [The-Burnsville-Socrates-Cafe]­ Laura Snyder on TED.com - Interesting Luda L. Apr 18, 2013 9:05 AM
Laura Snyder on TED.com - Fellow Filosofers, Check out this interesting and informative TED Talk: Dick S. Apr 17, 2013 9:54 PM
4/9/13 questions and discussion - 4/9/13 questions and discussion 1-how much scrutiny can we stand?4 2-on a scale of 1 to 10 how close are we to "1984?"5 3-how responsible are we for our actions in the context of moral luck?8 4-how does technology affect our right to privacy?10/8 5 Jon A. Apr 14, 2013 6:25 AM
4/9/13 questions and discussion - 4/9/13 questions and discussion 1-how much scrutiny can we stand?4 2-on a scale of 1 to 10 how close are we to "1984?"5 3-how responsible are we for our actions in the context of moral luck?8 4-how does technology affect our right to privacy?10/8 5 Jon A. Apr 14, 2013 6:25 AM
Next week's questions - Howdy y'all! Maybe I'll get it right this time: reply to *this* email with questions you'd like to vote on next week. Jon Jon A. Apr 11, 2013 5:31 AM
Meetup details changed: The Burnsville Socrates Cafe Meetup - I've updated this Meetup. For more details, see the full listing: http://www.meetup.com/The-Burn­sville-Socrates-Cafe/events/11­2569332/ When Jon A. Apr 8, 2013 6:03 PM
Re: [The-Burnsville-Socrates-Cafe]­ Let's try this, and a reminder - Got it! Thanks Phil. Jon On Apr 4, 2013, at 4:37 PM, Phillip Dahlen wrote: > Hi John, > > Here is a question. > > How have advances in technology affected our right to privacy? > > Lynn and I look forward to r Jon A. Apr 4, 2013 5:26 PM
Re: [The-Burnsville-Socrates-Cafe]­ Let's try this, and a reminder - Hi John, Here is a question. How have advances in technology affected our right to privacy? Lynn and I look forward to returning to Caribou. I just hope they can find room to seat us so that we can hear. Phil -----Original Message----- Phillip D. Apr 4, 2013 4:37 PM
Let's try this, and a reminder - Dear all, Andrew suggests something I'd like to try. Since we're getting and staying a large group, it's becoming harder to fit everyone who wants to speak into our time (Jim! I do know it's mostly my fault!). So here's the idea: during the next wee Jon A. Apr 4, 2013 4:10 PM
4/2/13 questions and discussion - 4/2/13 questions and discussion 1-what do we predict social media will do to or for us?4 2-under what circumstances is it ok to cheat?9 3-which is more dangerous to democracy: big government or big business?8 4-is anything more important than honest Jon A. Apr 4, 2013 4:00 PM
Societal Polarization -- Mathematical Model - I'm not sure this got sent out last night so I'm resending to the entire SC-MU. How Societies Become Polarized; &nbs Dick S. Apr 3, 2013 9:28 AM
Our next home - Jon A. Mar 30, 2013 8:21 PM
$100/email from WishMission - Send this email to 20 (max) people for $100/email - $2000 Get me noticed, and the businesses below will GO, making me worth a googol, and able to afford paying you. If this message is received by 1 billion people, I then owe at least $100 billion, but Dick S. Mar 28, 2013 9:46 AM
Greetings from God! - Dick S. Mar 28, 2013 9:35 AM
Re: [The-Burnsville-Socrates-Cafe]­ the night Jon went missing! - Mert H. Mar 28, 2013 7:48 AM
now meeting at Davanni's - All, Here's what Gina has done for us. It's great! Let's meet then at This Davanni's at  7:00 next Tuesday. Jon ================== Davanni's Pizza, 14639 CR 11, Burnsville[masked] Turn Jon A. Mar 27, 2013 2:17 PM
the night Jon went missing! - Jon A. Mar 27, 2013 1:57 PM
3/26/13 questions and discussion - 3/26/13 questions and discussion 1-is our world ruled by greed or power or not, or, to what extent?9 2-what is the difference between public education and public health care?11 3-in terminal cases is assisted suicide moral/ok, or not?6 4-what is Jon A. Mar 27, 2013 5:59 AM
Re: [The-Burnsville-Socrates-Cafe]­ Next week we're gonna try the library! - Here is a Google link to click for people that may not know the best way to get to the Dakota County, Burnsville Library . ** Please note -- this is Dick S. Mar 20, 2013 2:45 PM
Re: [The-Burnsville-Socrates-Cafe]­ Next week we're gonna try the library! - Mert H. Mar 20, 2013 1:19 PM
Next week we're gonna try the library! - The Burnsville library closes at 8:15, so let's start next week at 6:45 instead of 7:00. Gina tells me it will be the only room to the right as you enter the building. I will try to reserve it each week (if we agree we like it there) with perhaps C Jon A. Mar 20, 2013 12:21 PM
3/19/13 questions and discussion - 3/19/13 questions and discussion 1-what's the value of friendship?7 2-what is work?4 3-should the US Constitution be changed to require honesty?6 4-10 5-what happens if we could exactly duplicate human consciousness?6 6-would using robotics in war Jon A. Mar 20, 2013 5:44 AM
Gonna get there late - I work till 6:30 tonight. Optimistically, I will get to Caribou by 7:15. Go ahead and start without me, if you wanna. Otherwise enjoy yourselves! Jon Jon A. Mar 19, 2013 8:21 AM
3/12/13 questions and discussion - 3/12/13 questions and discussion 1-why do creative people so often suffer from mental illness?3 2-how should we address America's wealth inequality?9 3-what would happen if we amended the US Constitution to require honesty of us all?2 4-is there Jon A. Mar 18, 2013 3:49 AM
Re: [The-Burnsville-Socrates-Cafe]­ Snow Day - They cancelled my yoga class, unfortunately I still had to go to work :( On 3/5/13, Jon Anderson wrote: > As you might imagine, days with lots of snow are "interesting" for bus > drivers. My day will be a long one, so I'm taki Andrusela Mar 6, 2013 9:36 PM
Re: [The-Burnsville-Socrates-Cafe]­ 6 min. video on wealth inequality - Or as my friend and I used to call it, "tinkle down" economics. On 3/5/13, Dick S. wrote: > It may be attributable to "trickle down economics" morphing into > "trickled on economics." Ya think? > > > Thanks A. > > Dick S. > > Andrusela Mar 6, 2013 9:34 PM
Re: [The-Burnsville-Socrates-Cafe]­ 6 min. video on wealth inequality - It may be attributable to "trickle down economics" morphi Dick S. Mar 5, 2013 10:51 AM
Snow Day - As you might imagine, days with lots of snow are "interesting" for bus drivers. My day will be a long one, so I'm taking a snow day off from Socrates Cafe. I hope those of you who can attend, will. See everyone next week! Jon Jon A. Mar 5, 2013 9:59 AM
6 min. video on wealth inequality - If the stats can be trusted, this is pretty depressing: http://mashable.com/2013/03/02­/wealth-inequality/ yet maybe the truth will set us free? -Andromeda Andrusela Mar 5, 2013 1:23 AM

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