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Re: [The-Burnsville-Socrates-Cafe]­ Let's try this, and a reminder - Hi John, Here is a question. How have advances in technology affected our right to privacy? Lynn and I look forward to returning to Caribou. I just hope they can find room to seat us so that we can hear. Phil -----Original Message----- Phillip D. Apr 4, 2013 4:37 PM
Let's try this, and a reminder - Dear all, Andrew suggests something I'd like to try. Since we're getting and staying a large group, it's becoming harder to fit everyone who wants to speak into our time (Jim! I do know it's mostly my fault!). So here's the idea: during the next wee Jon A. Apr 4, 2013 4:10 PM
4/2/13 questions and discussion - 4/2/13 questions and discussion 1-what do we predict social media will do to or for us?4 2-under what circumstances is it ok to cheat?9 3-which is more dangerous to democracy: big government or big business?8 4-is anything more important than honest Jon A. Apr 4, 2013 4:00 PM
Societal Polarization -- Mathematical Model - I'm not sure this got sent out last night so I'm resending to the entire SC-MU. How Societies Become Polarized; &nbs Dick S. Apr 3, 2013 9:28 AM
Our next home - Jon A. Mar 30, 2013 8:21 PM
$100/email from WishMission - Send this email to 20 (max) people for $100/email - $2000 Get me noticed, and the businesses below will GO, making me worth a googol, and able to afford paying you. If this message is received by 1 billion people, I then owe at least $100 billion, but Dick S. Mar 28, 2013 9:46 AM
Greetings from God! - Dick S. Mar 28, 2013 9:35 AM
Re: [The-Burnsville-Socrates-Cafe]­ the night Jon went missing! - Mert H. Mar 28, 2013 7:48 AM
now meeting at Davanni's - All, Here's what Gina has done for us. It's great! Let's meet then at This Davanni's at  7:00 next Tuesday. Jon ================== Davanni's Pizza, 14639 CR 11, Burnsville[masked] Turn Jon A. Mar 27, 2013 2:17 PM
the night Jon went missing! - Jon A. Mar 27, 2013 1:57 PM
3/26/13 questions and discussion - 3/26/13 questions and discussion 1-is our world ruled by greed or power or not, or, to what extent?9 2-what is the difference between public education and public health care?11 3-in terminal cases is assisted suicide moral/ok, or not?6 4-what is Jon A. Mar 27, 2013 5:59 AM
Re: [The-Burnsville-Socrates-Cafe]­ Next week we're gonna try the library! - Here is a Google link to click for people that may not know the best way to get to the Dakota County, Burnsville Library . ** Please note -- this is Dick S. Mar 20, 2013 2:45 PM
Re: [The-Burnsville-Socrates-Cafe]­ Next week we're gonna try the library! - Mert H. Mar 20, 2013 1:19 PM
Next week we're gonna try the library! - The Burnsville library closes at 8:15, so let's start next week at 6:45 instead of 7:00. Gina tells me it will be the only room to the right as you enter the building. I will try to reserve it each week (if we agree we like it there) with perhaps C Jon A. Mar 20, 2013 12:21 PM
3/19/13 questions and discussion - 3/19/13 questions and discussion 1-what's the value of friendship?7 2-what is work?4 3-should the US Constitution be changed to require honesty?6 4-10 5-what happens if we could exactly duplicate human consciousness?6 6-would using robotics in war Jon A. Mar 20, 2013 5:44 AM
Gonna get there late - I work till 6:30 tonight. Optimistically, I will get to Caribou by 7:15. Go ahead and start without me, if you wanna. Otherwise enjoy yourselves! Jon Jon A. Mar 19, 2013 8:21 AM
3/12/13 questions and discussion - 3/12/13 questions and discussion 1-why do creative people so often suffer from mental illness?3 2-how should we address America's wealth inequality?9 3-what would happen if we amended the US Constitution to require honesty of us all?2 4-is there Jon A. Mar 18, 2013 3:49 AM
Re: [The-Burnsville-Socrates-Cafe]­ Snow Day - They cancelled my yoga class, unfortunately I still had to go to work :( On 3/5/13, Jon Anderson wrote: > As you might imagine, days with lots of snow are "interesting" for bus > drivers. My day will be a long one, so I'm taki Andrusela Mar 6, 2013 9:36 PM
Re: [The-Burnsville-Socrates-Cafe]­ 6 min. video on wealth inequality - Or as my friend and I used to call it, "tinkle down" economics. On 3/5/13, Dick S. wrote: > It may be attributable to "trickle down economics" morphing into > "trickled on economics." Ya think? > > > Thanks A. > > Dick S. > > Andrusela Mar 6, 2013 9:34 PM
Re: [The-Burnsville-Socrates-Cafe]­ 6 min. video on wealth inequality - It may be attributable to "trickle down economics" morphi Dick S. Mar 5, 2013 10:51 AM
Snow Day - As you might imagine, days with lots of snow are "interesting" for bus drivers. My day will be a long one, so I'm taking a snow day off from Socrates Cafe. I hope those of you who can attend, will. See everyone next week! Jon Jon A. Mar 5, 2013 9:59 AM
6 min. video on wealth inequality - If the stats can be trusted, this is pretty depressing: http://mashable.com/2013/03/02­/wealth-inequality/ yet maybe the truth will set us free? -Andromeda Andrusela Mar 5, 2013 1:23 AM
B'ville Socrates Group Fwd: eSkeptic: The Carl Sagan of Chemistry - Begin forwarded message: Found in my inbox today, a different slant on last nights discussion, something Mark alluded to. Dick S. Feb 27, 2013 4:24 PM
Socrates Café -[masked] - As pertains to Meg's question of the night, "Can Science Go Too Far?" It not only is of scientific concern but begs the moral question also. These videos require sound be on. Mexico & Dick S. Feb 26, 2013 9:59 PM
Re: [The-Burnsville-Socrates-Cafe]­ 2/5/13 questions and discussion - I know I'm a little late to this particular party, but to comment on what Steve said about performance reviews at work: My boss has no trouble at all telling me negative things and seems not at all worried that I will walk out in a huff, as some of my Andrusela Feb 15, 2013 4:40 AM
2/13/13 questions and discussion - 1/12/13 questions and discussion 1-define love?5 2-do the needs of the many always outweigh the needs of the few?8 3-is the existence of a god relevant to modern religion?9 4-would greater citizen involvement result in better government?5 5-can w Jon A. Feb 13, 2013 6:00 PM
3/12/13 questions and discussion - 1/12/13 questions and discussion 1-define love?5 2-do the needs of the many always outweigh the needs of the few?8 3-is the existence of a god relevant to modern religion?9 4-would greater citizen involvement result in better government?5 5-can we Jon A. Feb 13, 2013 5:58 PM
Re: [The-Burnsville-Socrates-Cafe]­ Tonight - Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID Mert Horne <[address removed]> wrote: Mert H. Feb 12, 2013 5:55 PM
Tonight - All, I'd like to listen to the President's speech tonight so I won't be there. My question concerns an issue to be brought before the Supreme Court on 2/28. I will be out of town until March 11 or 12 Mert H. Feb 12, 2013 5:44 PM
2/5/13 questions and discussion - 2/5/13 questions and discussion 1-how do we solve the "liar's paradox"?1 2-when will the cost of living be more than our ability to earn wages?8 3-to what extent does capitalism contain the seeds of its own destruction?9 4-why does the Right hate Jon A. Feb 11, 2013 1:45 PM
Re: [The-Burnsville-Socrates-Cafe]­ Tonight - Mert H. Feb 5, 2013 10:47 AM
Re: [The-Burnsville-Socrates-Cafe]­ Tonight - Whoa! I don't know how to reply! I am off work at 14:40, so yes, if you will, call me [masked]) before you leav Jon A. Feb 5, 2013 10:00 AM
Re: [The-Burnsville-Socrates-Cafe]­ Tonight - Jon: I think there would be too many dislocations at this time. Why don't I just pick you up and drop you off? & user 1. Feb 5, 2013 9:16 AM
Tonight - I once more am stranded by car trouble (has Toyota lost it?). Please let me know what you think about meeting at the B'ville library instead. Jon Jon A. Feb 5, 2013 9:08 AM
Just Sharing - Mert H. Feb 4, 2013 10:05 AM
Re: [The-Burnsville-Socrates-Cafe]­ 1/22/13 questions and discussion - Dick S. Jan 23, 2013 4:19 PM
1/22/13 questions and discussion - 1/22/13 questions and discussion 1-why is interdependence hard to see/understand?6 2-do we think that any god/goddess, regardless of culture, should intentionally conceal itself in order to maintain an emphasis on faith?9/5 3-can loyalty be measured? Jon A. Jan 23, 2013 3:22 PM
Re: [The-Burnsville-Socrates-Cafe]­ 1/15/13 questions and discussion - I will not be able to make it on 1/22. Mert Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID Jon Anderson <[address removed]> wrote: Mert H. Jan 20, 2013 5:08 PM
1/15/13 questions and discussion - 1/15/13 questions and discussion 1-as a nation, should we seek help or self analyze first? 2-if wealth is acquired within the law by a person, is that person a good citizen? 3-to what extent, if any, does capitalism contain the seeds of its own d Jon A. Jan 20, 2013 3:37 PM
Re: [The-Burnsville-Socrates-Cafe]­ Videos related to discussion[masked] - Dick and others, Thanks for the links. I haven't looked at them yet but the title of the series is suggestive. An economist's Jim Jan 16, 2013 9:07 AM
Videos related to discussion[masked] - Jon, our moderator, this evening requested I send the following links. They had gone out before but only to people whose email addresses I had in my "contacts" and that had been a part of a particular evening's Dick S. Jan 15, 2013 10:15 PM
1/8/12 questions and discussion - Preview not available Jon A. Jan 13, 2013 6:00 PM
Sam Harris' the Riddle of the Gun - Hello all, Dick S. sent me this useful Jon A. Jan 11, 2013 11:13 AM
Today and next week - A reminder we are not meeting tonight or next Tuesday. See y'all next year! Jon Jon A. Dec 25, 2012 2:24 PM
Re: [The-Burnsville-Socrates-Cafe]­[masked] questions and discussion - Increased revenues are not the only goal for the Government. Decreased spending is the flip side of that coin. Dick S. Dec 12, 2012 10:20 AM
Re: [The-Burnsville-Socrates-Cafe]­[masked] questions and discussion - First off, thank you again, I am really enjoying this group and look forward to tuesday. Secondly, the hot topic of the year has to do with tax rates and revenues, so I propose the following talking points, that each of you can make up Craig Dec 10, 2012 2:58 PM
Re: [The-Burnsville-Socrates-Cafe]­[masked] questions and discussion - Sean, Thanks! Hopefully many of us will watch this. Jon On Dec 10, 2012, at 10:42, Sean < Jon A. Dec 10, 2012 1:01 PM
Re: [The-Burnsville-Socrates-Cafe]­[masked] questions and discussion - Preview not available Sean Dec 10, 2012 10:41 AM
Re: [The-Burnsville-Socrates-Cafe]­[masked] questions and discussion - Preview not available Sean Dec 7, 2012 4:43 PM
[masked] questions and discussion - Preview not available Jon A. Dec 7, 2012 1:44 PM
Re: [The-Burnsville-Socrates-Cafe]­ 11/20/12 questions and discussion - And to make matters worse, it was known by the administration throughout 196. She was the one who told my son to take the SAT (there were two SATs) as required by MIT. It was the wrong one and by the time we naive parents who trusted that she kn Mert H. Nov 28, 2012 10:09 PM
Re: [The-Burnsville-Socrates-Cafe]­ 11/20/12 questions and discussion - Mert, OMG on the drunk guidance counselor story! I have more stories I could tell than the ones I've already accounted above, but you win. I am aghast that something so blatant as that was excused in this day and age. I would be subject to immediate Andrusela Nov 28, 2012 9:33 PM
Re: [The-Burnsville-Socrates-Cafe]­ 11/20/12 questions and discussion - Preview not available Jim Nov 28, 2012 7:47 PM
Re: [The-Burnsville-Socrates-Cafe]­ 11/20/12 questions and discussion - Mert H. Nov 28, 2012 9:17 AM
Re: [The-Burnsville-Socrates-Cafe]­ 11/20/12 questions and discussion - Preview not available Andrusela Nov 27, 2012 9:24 PM
Re: [The-Burnsville-Socrates-Cafe]­ 11/20/12 questions and discussion - Mert H. Nov 27, 2012 9:07 AM
11/20/12 questions and discussion - 11/20/12 questions and discussion 1-why do we have questions?3 2-should free speech have a monetary limit?5 3-what do we prefer in the Middle East: secular dictators who play nice with the US, or democratically elected religious politicians.7 4-ha Jon A. Nov 27, 2012 7:06 AM
10/30/12 questions and discussion - NOTE TO ALL: WE DO NOT MEET TONIGHT! WE'VE GOT US AN ELECTION TO MESS WITH. SEE EVERYONE NEXT WEEK :-) 10/30/12 questions and discussion 1-why does tyranny work for business but not for government?5 2-what is the logical limit of technology?4 Jon A. Nov 6, 2012 6:53 AM
Re: [The-Burnsville-Socrates-Cafe]­ This Tuesday - heh. On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 8:29 AM, Jon Anderson < [address removed] > wrote: Sean Nov 4, 2012 5:22 PM
This Tuesday - Hey y'all! Several of you asked whether we'll meet on election day. Some of you said you might not come because of it. Part of me wants to still meet because we might enjoy the (hopefully) non-election discussion; a welcome experience for me at lea Jon A. Nov 4, 2012 8:29 AM
[masked] questions and discussion - Preview not available Jon A. Oct 29, 2012 3:55 PM
Re: [The-Burnsville-Socrates-Cafe]­ Tuesday - Lynn and I won't make it. We want to see the debate that evening. Phil Dahlen -----Original Message----- >From: Jon Anderson >Sent: Oct 15,[masked]:17 PM >To: [address removed] >Subject: [Th Phillip D. Oct 15, 2012 9:13 PM
Tuesday - Attention all B'ville Socratics! I work late tomorrow -- can't attend. I've sent Shannon an email to cover for me. If she can't be there, you're on your own! Have a blast gang! Jon Jon A. Oct 15, 2012 7:17 PM
10/2/12 questions and discussion - 10/2/12 questions and discussion 1-if the great flood killed everybody are we all Jewish?2 2-what is a legitimate religion?8 3-is the veil of ignorance a useful device for devising rules for a just society?6 4-what do we think of GMOs/foods?6 5-how Jon A. Oct 7, 2012 6:42 PM
Reminder: for those interested in the debate/discussion with John Peloquin tonight! - > We'll be holding that conversation at the Burnsville Socrates Cafe location. See the Burnsville Socrates Cafe's Meetup page for where that coffee shop is. > Jon Jon A. Sep 25, 2012 10:16 AM
9/18/12 questions and discussion - **NOTE** John Peloquin and I have made a date to meet one hour early next Tuesday (9/25) to discuss and debate the issues of middle class income stagnation and the growing income inequality between the middle and upper economic classes in America. All Jon A. Sep 20, 2012 4:15 PM
Re: [The-Burnsville-Socrates-Cafe]­ 9/11/12 questions and discussion - Preview not available Jim Sep 14, 2012 9:37 AM
Re: [The-Burnsville-Socrates-Cafe]­ 9/11/12 questions and discussion - I don't think we are in too much danger yet. What will be bad is when we get to the generation who can't do anything without the use of a computer. As it is, we still have people alive who remember how to do things "the old fashioned way." I enjoy teac Andrusela Sep 14, 2012 5:43 AM
9/11/12 questions and discussion - 9/11/12 questions and discussion 1-have we become too dependent on technology?8 2-if it were proven conclusively that free will is an illusion how would it affect your life and why?4 3-why don't different American cultures mix with one another?5 4-i Jon A. Sep 13, 2012 2:20 PM
Re: [The-Burnsville-Socrates-Cafe]­ 9/4/12 questions and discussion - I want to hear some discussion on that "just wage" question some time. Be sure to ask that one again, whoever suggested it. I'm likely to forget by the time I join you again on October 30th. On 9/10/12, Jon Anderson wrote: > 9/ Andrusela Sep 11, 2012 1:42 AM
9/4/12 questions and discussion - 9/4/12 questions and discussion 1-what is a just wage?5 2-if we raise taxes on the middle class and lower taxes for the upper class what will happen?4 3-why can't our elections be about information instead of the endless campaigning high price and di Jon A. Sep 10, 2012 5:28 PM
8/28/12 questions and discussion - 8/28/12 questions and discussion 1-so, what do we think of civilization?2 2-has our republic been sold?4 3-does punishment truly fit the crime?5 4-should we care if athletes use drugs or other artificial methods to enhance their performance?3 5-is Jon A. Sep 4, 2012 8:58 AM
8/21/12 questions and discussion - 8/21/12 questions and discussion 1-which freedoms have been lost or are in peril?5 2-where does "foot in mouth" disease come from?4 3-what is honor and why do we declare someone honorable who's been dead less than 500 years?3 4-stipulate no free wil Jon A. Aug 27, 2012 4:05 PM
8/14/12 questions and discussion - 8/14/12 questions and discussion 1-why are we moral?3 2-what is honor?6 3-what is death?3 4-are we getting dumber?6 5-how might Paul Ryan's political philosophy affect this election?5 6-why do the red states have higher crime rates than the blue Jon A. Aug 19, 2012 5:04 PM
8/7/12 questions and discussion - 8/7/12 questions and discussion 1-have we mis-analyzed the issue about guns and these mass shootings?5 2-are there too many swimming medals being given at the olympics?2 3-do we know if we're crazy?5 4-if this is global warming what should we do abo Jon A. Aug 10, 2012 4:30 PM
Re: [The-Burnsville-Socrates-Cafe]­ 7/24/12 questions and discussion - I know it seems like I have to have an opinion on everything, but I will try to be brief. I have a gut feeling that this guy is faking at least some of his symptoms in order to get off on an insanity plea. I, like Jim, think he may be playing some kind Andrusela Aug 1, 2012 4:34 AM
7/24/12 questions and discussion - 7/24/12 questions and discussion 1-what might change if free will weren't there?3 2-did the Batman serial killer have free will?6 3-what if anything can society do to prevent mass killings like in Aurora, Co?8 4-would it be beneficial to teach our k Jon A. Jul 31, 2012 3:06 PM
Re: [The-Burnsville-Socrates-Cafe]­ Harris' Free Will (Cliff Notes by Jon A) - Preview not available Jim Jul 31, 2012 11:53 AM
Re: [The-Burnsville-Socrates-Cafe]­ Harris' Free Will (Cliff Notes by Jon A) - Yeah! Only problem is … I weigh just under 470 lbs on Jupiter. Me thinks I should concentrate on a diet. Sent from my iPhone 4S. On Jul 31, 2012, at 6:26 AM, Andrusela wrote: > Thanks, Dick. That was fun. I user 3. Jul 31, 2012 8:43 AM
Re: [The-Burnsville-Socrates-Cafe]­ Harris' Free Will (Cliff Notes by Jon A) - Preview not available Andrusela Jul 31, 2012 6:26 AM
Re: [The-Burnsville-Socrates-Cafe]­ Harris' Free Will (Cliff Notes by Jon A) - I have found a solution to your dilemma, Andrea. More time … less gravity. This link [ http://www.exploratorium.edu/r­onh/age/ ], and your entry, will put you in a mind frame that will, at least for a while, reduce that stress. I've calculated user 3. Jul 29, 2012 8:24 AM
Re: [The-Burnsville-Socrates-Cafe]­ Harris' Free Will (Cliff Notes by Jon A) - Preview not available Andrusela Jul 27, 2012 4:35 PM
Re: [The-Burnsville-Socrates-Cafe]­ Harris' Free Will (Cliff Notes by Jon A) - Preview not available Jim Jul 27, 2012 11:28 AM
Re: [The-Burnsville-Socrates-Cafe]­ Harris' Free Will (Cliff Notes by Jon A) - Preview not available Luda L. Jul 27, 2012 9:37 AM
Re: [The-Burnsville-Socrates-Cafe]­ Harris' Free Will (Cliff Notes by Jon A) - You underestimate yourself, Andrea. On Jul 26, 2012, at 5:28 AM, Andrusela wrote: > I think these are ideas worth entertaining. I especially relate to the > laziness as a neurological condition hypothesis. Some pe user 3. Jul 26, 2012 10:58 PM
Re: [The-Burnsville-Socrates-Cafe]­ Harris' Free Will (Cliff Notes by Jon A) - I think these are ideas worth entertaining. I especially relate to the laziness as a neurological condition hypothesis. Some people are just blessed with a lot of energy in productive ways and I am not. I cannot seem to budge my capacity for "getting t Andrusela Jul 26, 2012 5:28 AM
Harris' Free Will (Cliff Notes by Jon A) - p.5 Either our wills are determined by prior causes and we are not responsible for them, or they are the product of chance and we are not responsible for them. p.7 The intention to do one thing and not another does not originate in consciousness -- r Jon A. Jul 25, 2012 5:55 PM
7/17/12 questions and discussion - 7/17/12 questions and discussion [NOTE: this week we had a small number of socratics so discussion moved too rapidly for me to keep up on the keyboard. What I made here is less precise.] 1-how might capitalism include virtue? 2-can our conscience b Jon A. Jul 21, 2012 7:49 PM
7/10/12 questions and discussion - 7/10/12 questions and discussion 1-Let's be optimists and answer this: what ought our path back to unity?5/1 2-why don't we teach people how to lose?4 3-does it make sense to take the life as meaningful?5/1 4-why still do we have an electoral coll Jon A. Jul 16, 2012 6:21 PM
Re: [The-Burnsville-Socrates-Cafe]­ 7/3/12 questions and discussion - IMO OCD's get stuck in an ultimately self-destructive (or at least very limiting) loop, often reinforced by overly well-meaning sympathetic others. How do you say to a suffering person, "it's time to get over it"? Those of strong mind who know Jim Jul 11, 2012 8:59 PM
Re: [The-Burnsville-Socrates-Cafe]­ 7/3/12 questions and discussion - After all the agonizing over my husband's passing. "Why him?" etc. I have settled on the old "shit happens" theory of life. What is more important to me now is what we do about it afterwards. Do we reach out and help those to whom shit happens or do we Andrusela Jul 11, 2012 12:08 AM
7/3/12 questions and discussion - 7/3/12 questions and discussion 1-is it better that religions hold together better than secular organizations?4 2-are professional/semi-professional­ sports good for us?4 3-are the olympics good for us?4 4-what's the root of the controversy in Amer Jon A. Jul 10, 2012 5:13 PM
RE: [The-Burnsville-Socrates-Cafe]­ 6/20/12 questions and discussion - 1-what do we do with our misfits?4 2-assuming food, clothing, and shelter are what we most value, what's driving the economic need to grow?5 3-are professional sports good for us?5 =========================== Assuming food, clothing, and shelter a Jon A. Jul 4, 2012 10:45 PM
Re: [The-Burnsville-Socrates-Cafe]­ 6/20/12 questions and discussion - Fascinating subject. Buddhism calls the three great ills of mankind: greed, hate, and ignorance. Further, that human desire/greed is endless. It is our nature, yet we do have a choice to try and meditate it away. This does work, at least for the actual Andrusela Jun 28, 2012 11:54 PM
6/20/12 questions and discussion - 1-what do we do with our misfits?4 2-assuming food, clothing, and shelter are what we most value, what's driving the economic need to grow?5 3-are professional sports good for us?5 =========================== Assuming food, clothing, and shelter a Jon A. Jun 28, 2012 7:54 PM
6/19/12 questions and discussion - 6/19/12 questions and discussion 1-does separating rich and poor create jobs?3 2-what should each of us sacrifice to save our economy?4/2 3-what is the sanctity moral?4/1 4-should Roger Clemens be allowed into the Hall of Fame?3 5-do Republicans re Jon A. Jun 21, 2012 12:49 PM
Fwd: Socrates -[masked] - Begin forwarded message: Jon A. Jun 21, 2012 12:14 PM
Fwd: New Medicaid Bill - Begin forwarded message: Jon A. Jun 17, 2012 3:47 PM
Re: [The-Burnsville-Socrates-Cafe]­ 6/5/12 questions and discussion - I know I must work, because I have too many bills to pay. I am also ambitious and need to be important for people to Luda L. Jun 14, 2012 9:40 AM
Re: [The-Burnsville-Socrates-Cafe]­ 6/5/12 questions and discussion - Thank you, Luda. And, Jim, I think we do, as a society, force people to work. Though "force" is not perhaps the best word to describe it. I would say there is plenty of pressure for most of us to work if we are at all sane and at least partially sober. Andrusela Jun 14, 2012 4:17 AM

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