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Re: Still Looking for Presenters for Next Week's Gathering

From: Kingsley I.
Sent on: Friday, October 9, 2009 9:58 AM
Sean O'Connor wrote:
> Good Morning Kinsley,
>
> I won't be able to throughly explain the semantic options you've 
> provided, but I can certainly try.
Don't worry about that :-)

You present what you have and how you would like to evolve it etc..
> One major adjustment we can make on Ratingworld would be to 
> incorporate some RDF into our code as recommended by W3C. In 
> that scenario, it seems we could enable sites like the linked movie 
> database and DBpedia to pull data and ratings from our 
> site seamlessly. It could work vice-versa too. With those 
> adjustments our site map 
> <http://www.rating...;­ would offer practical routes 
> to our data. At the same time, it seems we would also have to go 
> open source.  
You simply need to add links to these things via @href, as first step. 
Ultimately, you can just use RDFa to make richer metadata i.e. 
additional descriptive granularity about a page.
Example:
This page is about <DBpedia-URI-of-s­ome-Movie>.
The primary topic of this page is: <DBpedia-URI-of-s­ome-Movie>

In <head/> you can use <xlink/> and @rel="dc:source" to also point to 
DBpedia URIs used in the page.

The above hooks you into the Web of Linked Data without much work :-)
>
> As far as embedding N3, I can't say much but would love to get a 
> discussion going.
HTML + RDFa has a lower activation threshold esp. as you already know 
how to generate and publish HTML.
> Just from doing initial research it's seems that rich lookups, or 
> searching, is going to be the greatest strength offered by the 
> semantic web.
Making the pages in your site self contained Linked Data Spaces. Ditto 
your entire site, it becomes a Container of N number of Linked Data 
spaces :-)

> In fact, just thinking about what will be possible makes Google 
> seem archaic.
Yes, SEO is on the down swing while SDQ [1] is on the up.
> However, I do think that creating a practical use for these linked 
> data spaces continues to be a challenge. Which is something else I'd 
> like to discuss.
My recipe above will get you started. You just want to add your data 
space to the burgeoning collection of Linked Data Spaces on the Web.
>
> If I will be presenting, for how long will I have on Tuesday? Also, 
> will there be a projector I can jack my laptop into? Look forward to 
> hearing back from you.
There will be a projector, typical time slot is 15 mins (depending on 
how many other presentations there are etc..).

Links:

1. http://tr.im/vrnz­ - About SDQ (Serendipitous Discovery Quotient)
2. http://www.ebusin...­ -- GoodRelations 
Vocabulary (nice collection of terms for describing WishLists and Offerings)



Kingsley
>
> Best,
> Sean
>
>
> On Oct 8, 2009, at 1:14 PM, Kingsley Idehen wrote:
>
>> Sean O'Connor wrote:
>>> Kingsley,
>>>
>>> Thanks for the quick response. I am going to try to answer your 
>>> questions as best as possible. Currently we structure or data using 
>>> MYSQL, and we do use this structure to expose data. For example, our 
>>> homepage consists of various topics, and within those topics the 
>>> highest rated item is featured underneath. Those items featured on 
>>> the homepage are constantly subject to change based on what becomes 
>>> the highest rated in a given topic.
>>>
>>> Of course, this structure provides a very basic way to expose data. 
>>> However, we are working on a new generation of the site which will 
>>> feature a much more dynamic data model. Which is one of the reasons 
>>> I'd like to present, I think it'd be great to explore technology 
>>> like the RDF data model and see if it could be applied to a site 
>>> like Ratingworld.
>> Okay, would be nice opportunity to explain options such as:
>>
>> 1. HTML with RDFa embedded
>> 2. Other RDF Data Model serialization formats
>> 3. Other Linked Data Spaces on the Web that provide rich lookups and 
>> data meshing (not mashing).
>>>
>>> I will say that up until now we have not considered the RDF data 
>>> model, but it's mainly because I don't know much about it. Going 
>>> forward, I feel we can introduce many new ways for our users to look 
>>> at our data using MYSQL, but I also think we wouldn't be tapping 
>>> into our true potential. Forgive me if I sound ignorant, the 
>>> semantic web is a complex subject and I'm just getting into it. 
>>> Also, feel free to browse ratingworld to understand how we expose on 
>>> other pages aside from the homepage.
>> Yes, you can also produce RDF model Linked Data using RDBMS to RDF 
>> technologies [1].
>>
>> Links:
>>
>> 1. http://esw.w3.org...­
>> 2. http://esw.w3.org...­
>> 3. http://www.w3.org...­
>>
>>
>> Kingsley
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Sean
>>>
>>>
>>> On Oct 8, 2009, at 10:38 AM, Kingsley Idehen wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sean O'Connor wrote:
>>>>>­ Hello Kingsley,
>>>>>­ I'm available to present my project (http://ratingworl...­) if 
>>>>>­ you feel it's relevant. It was developed using RoR, and while the 
>>>>>­ fundamental frame work of the site is basic, we are striving to 
>>>>>­ apply semantic web technology to it. Let me know your thoughts.
>>>>>­
>>>>>­ Best,
>>>>>­ Sean
>>>>
>>>> Sean,
>>>>
>>>> Are there plans to expose structured data from your data space?  If 
>>>> so, have you considered the RDF data model and existing 
>>>> schemas/vocabularies­ for ratings oriented data?
>>>>
>>>> My questions don't validate or invalidate your desire to present, 
>>>> just trying to establish some context :-)
>>>>
>>>> Kingsley
>>>>>­
>>>>>­
>>>>>­ On Oct 8, 2009, at 10:15 AM, Kingsley Idehen wrote:
>>>>>­
>>>>>­> All,
>>>>>­>
>>>>>­>
>>>>>­> We are still looking for presenters re. next week's gathering.
>>>>>­>
>>>>>­> The Linked Data meme continues to increase in visibility and 
>>>>>­> adoption, so we should match this with talks and presentations 
>>>>>­> covering real-world usecases and challenges etc..
>>>>>­>
>>>>>­>
>>>>>­> We also have the rise of HTML + RDFa as a mechanism for reducing 
>>>>>­> the activation threshold re. Linked Data comprehension and 
>>>>>­> exploitation.
>>>>>­>
>>>>>­>
>>>>>­> Recent OWL2 and SKOS developments also provide relevant and 
>>>>>­> interesting areas for presentation coverage.
>>>>>­>
>>>>>­>
>>>>>­> Finally, we also have the U.S, UK, and Australian governments 
>>>>>­> making significant strides major producers of Linked Data as 
>>>>>­> basis for economic stimulation and the evolution of governments 
>>>>>­> into smart-ups that better serve their tax payers :-)
>>>>>­>
>>>>>­>
>>>>>­>
>>>>>­> Kingsley
>>>>>­>
>>>>>­>
>>>>>­>
>>>>>­>
>>>>>­>
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