Re: [ciscosystems-16] CCNA Voice

From: H. C.
Sent on: Tuesday, June 4, 2013 8:51 PM
Just to chime in. One thing I can tell you from being and interviewer and interviewee is that the more certifications you put on your resume the more in depth the questions will get. The type of job that you will get will always start with your resume. Also don't forget Hospitals need Network engineers too. Many people count them out but they actually hire a lot of fresh out school IT students. Start up companies like people they can train and the younger the better because 1 they will work you to the ground 2 you are more flexible and eager to learn. You can use this to your advantage. A well funded start up will be more willing to pay for your training and you will get a more hands on approach to the real world experience. In Bigger companies everything is already laid out. The networking  team only touch the network equipment and the systems team only work on the server side. And don't forget about internships. If your still in school get and internship.


On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 8:21 PM, Nick Marshall <[address removed]> wrote:

Brian that helps a ton. Thanks for your input. From looking around that's what I've noticed; Small companies.

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On Jun 4,[masked]:18 PM, "Brian K" <[address removed]> wrote:
Hey Guys,

I don't want to ask as if I am an authority but I've been in IT for 20+ years and I work for one of the big boys right now.  What I can tell you is that there is work out there but most likely it will start as contract work, finding a good permanent position is hard even in the best of economy.   Think of a certification as a tool in your toolbox, you can take it anywhere and it will help you when you need that tool.  Some places require certifications for certain jobs, but the certification is just a check mark in a box and unless it's an entry level position a cert without experience doesn't carry a lot of weight.  To get the experience you will most likely get contracts, small companies or shitty companies where they are willing to take a chance on a untested resource.  Most of the jobs I've gotten has been through word of mouth, in my current position you could never get into my group without being "sponsored" by another member of the group and even as a sponsored person you have to hit the ground running or you will get cut loose in a month or two

Just my 2 cents, feel free to flame me.

BK


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Subject: Re: [ciscosystems-16] CCNA Voice
To: [address removed]
Date: Tue, 4 Jun[masked]:08:11 -0400

We're in the same boat with that one... I have minimal experience. My bachelors degree will be complete in October. So with that and at least icnd1 with soon to take ccna security in October and Cwna in January on resume with course studies outlined will help me a bit. I've seen various ranges for entry level salaries. More than likely, you will be the low man on the totem pole but try show that you're eager to learn and don't back out of challenges... I don't know I'm rambling. But do a simple search for VoIP admins to get a feel of the job market.

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On Jun 4, 2013, at 6:42 PM, LaFron <[address removed]> wrote:

Cool thanks, next question. What's the job market like for entry level ccna voice with no real world experience?
On Jun 4,[masked]:08 PM, "Nick Marshall" <[address removed]> wrote:
Though to answer your question more accurately. If you take icnd1 and 2 or just the one ccna r/s exam you will only have acquired your ccna in r/s. Then you'll still have to take the ccna voice exam seperate to obtain you ccna voice.
So it depends on which way you want to do it. I think if your focus is voice..just take the icnd1 then the voice exam and you'll have your ccna voice.
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On Jun 4,[masked]:34 PM, "LaFron" <[address removed]> wrote:
Hello All -

Anyone on the CVOICE path, looking for some insight on the cert.  Do I need to take both part of the ICND test?  If so then does that mean I will have two certs CCNA for routing/switching and voice?

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