Wittgenstein Workshop - Showing the Fly out of the Fly-Bottle

We will continue our very slow, very cooperative stab at Wittgenstein's Philosophical Investigations - one of the densest, most idiosyncratic, and most rewarding philosophical texts ever composed. This time we will be starting at Remark 309. No prior reading or background is expected.


In this part of the book, Wittgenstein likens "the philosopher" to a fly in a fly-bottle - a well-intentioned creature who has followed enlightenment's promising scent upwards into a metaphysical glass cage, only to belatedly realize that there's no way to productively continue its flight. Wittgenstein's therapeutic take on philosophizing aims to show this fly the way out of the bottle - back down the way it came - through an investigation of language and the ways we use it.

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  • Christopher B.

    What is it about reality that is so unconvincing? We play in this world of laws and ideals. Mallarme envisioned a hand scratching the beach from within the ocean. Pulling at the sand, feeling the real world but suffering from soakness. The symbolic order maintains its language hold over all that all we believe is the Real. The Lacanian Real is pervasive but language blinds us from its essence. Wittgenstein's fly in the bottle is the world as we are presented it. Outside of the bottle is unachievable due to the problem with language and the meaningful bind in holds over our ability to understand the nature of reality.

    June 19, 2013

    • Christopher B.

      Within the symbolic order he would find it convincing and encourages one to learn as much as you can within this order to maintain it.

      June 19, 2013

    • Erik C.

      I think I'm more inclined to take Ivan's reading of Wittgenstein. I don't think Wittgenstein takes us to be in a world invented or merely constructed by language. The fly bottle isn't the world we are presented in, but perhaps a world we talk ourselves into.

      June 20, 2013

  • Brian

    I liked the discussion

    April 19, 2013

  • Ivan

    Maybe. Depends on traffic.

    April 18, 2013

  • A former member
    A former member

    2 far 4 me. live in plainfield. 2 much rain. don't like flys anyway.

    1 · April 18, 2013

  • Aaron

    Sorry for late cancelation.

    April 18, 2013

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