Fear

There are few things more important to us.

What is fear - what can a person be afraid of? How does fear relate to other agonies like hatred and sadness?

How is fear overcome, and why would it be important to do this? Are there kinds of fear we should live with? (Perhaps fear for the sake of others, or fear of falling below reasonable standards of conduct.)

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  • renee

    Liked it. I'll be baaack.

    May 27, 2013

  • Isabella

    Yep, fear as unjustified belief about the future tends to be effective...yet often fear remains even if I rationally know that I should not have this fear. So what does that mean, is there an instinctual basis in fear - at least some forms of fear - that reason cannot eradicate? Personally I think this is at times the case, instinct can serve us well at times, at others there can be an overexcitation that leads to imagination which is in some way tied to a lack of knowing.

    2 · May 23, 2013

    • eric

      Data from your article ..."Source: Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation, Global Burden of Disease 2010 Caption: In the developed world, suicide became the leading cause of death in 2010 for people ages 15-49."You are making a point from a subset of the population. The numbers from the CDC I posted are for the same year.

      May 26, 2013

    • eric

      I am simply saying that phobias (irrational fears) are a subset of fear. Fear is a "built in" evolutionary emotion that has kept us all alive. You think it is passe or optional? Go talk to a fireman or policeman. Go talk to parents of kids in an oncology ward and see if they are afraid. Get all the people who have no phobias and water board them and you will see fear in 99.99% of their eyes because you cannot rationalize fear away no matter how many "no fear" stickers you place in your windshield.

      2 · May 26, 2013

    • Brian

      Pink Floyd got it

      1 · May 26, 2013

  • Paul

    hate to miss this discussion but couldnt resist the cook out invite...

    May 25, 2013

  • Mike B.

    Do we need or should we make a distinction between fear and anxiety?

    2 · May 25, 2013

    • Erik C.

      I think the short answer is yes, but I'm sure we'll figure out what distinctions are necessary while we're all talking about it.

      1 · May 25, 2013

  • Martinez B.

    I'm FEARFUL of coming to this meetups after reading the commentaries. LOL! Nah, can't wait to see you guys tomorrow, I might be late because of my niece birthday. ;D

    2 · May 24, 2013

  • renee

    Let's get back to more important stuff like what kind of sandwiches.

    2 · May 24, 2013

  • renee

    parking?

    May 24, 2013

    • renee

      thanks,eric. DO they have food there or nearby?

      May 24, 2013

    • Brian

      They serve sandwiches at Eva's. I like them.

      May 24, 2013

  • Charlie

    also, this is such a great topic i might show up regardless of whether there is a spot. this is such a great topic i dont want to miss it (i love to watch philosophers bang their head agaist a wall). i might even dress up as the space tablet and some of you will leave out of fear :-)

    May 24, 2013

  • Charlie

    you know that movie space oddessey 2001 where that big black lightless block suddenly shows up and everything changes, eventhough nobody really knows what it is or what it does? fear is just like that. you cant penetrate it, you wont understand it, just obey it, or it will drive you mad ...or die free.

    May 24, 2013

  • Thrashionalist

    To get some kind of ball rolling: I'm very interested in exploring the idea that fear is cognitive. That is, fears either are or rely upon beliefs. Opening gambit: fears are or rely upon beliefs about how the future will go. Therefore, any reasons we have for regarding beliefs about the future as unjustified are reasons for fear's being unjustified.

    1 · May 23, 2013

    • renee

      Wow you are deep hope I can come it is rare to find deep-thinking critical thinkers

      May 23, 2013

    • renee

      Love your metaphor after reading thrice I get it brilliant thanks

      May 23, 2013

  • Lisa

    What a great topic!

    1 · May 22, 2013

  • eric

    Krishnamurti: Fear....Momentum really starts to build around 27min and the magic starts at 41min. 57min "Freedom is not born of knowledge." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=...­

    1 · May 12, 2013

  • Mike B.

    Fear--imaginary and real--is a real issue and most often afraid to talk about it. Fear came up in another meet-up just last week.

    May 8, 2013

  • Isabella

    That was an ominous subject line in my inbox

    2 · May 6, 2013

  • Brian

    out of town. I appreciate the campfire spirit of the topic

    1 · May 6, 2013

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