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Marx "The German Ideology: Part I"

We will be doing a close reading of Marx's "The German Ideology". Our close reading will be a follow up to our previous readings of Weber.

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  • Mike B.

    Thought-provoking, not dominated by one or two participants, no egos run amuck, excellent, four and a half stars.

    July 28, 2013

  • Rick O.

    Mike - here's my stab at an answer: Ideology itself is not bad, and nowadays we tend to mix ideology with dogmatism (which perhaps can be called ideology without a personal involvement). Marx argument is with the Hegelians who subsume reality under the "idea." He does this in part through satire - [II.8] "as a series of "thoughts" that devour one another and are finally swallowed up in "self-consciousness." His approach, I believe, is to show all the unnecessary baggage that Idealism employs, while the material forces are all that is need to understand reality. From the end: [73] "Individuals always proceeded, and always proceed, from themselves. Their relations are the relations of their real life processes. How does it happen that their relations [the various Hegelian ideas] assume an independent existence over against them?" The essay is his attempt to answer - and resolve - that question. Marx has his own ideology - it's where it is placed that counts.

    1 · July 21, 2013

    • Dan

      Though I haven't come across the term in the text yet, I think Rick's interpretation is correct. For Marx, an ideology should be judged by how well it reflects the "real movement of history."

      July 21, 2013

    • Rick O.

      [1].4 has some good stuff on the proper method of ideology. "It is not consciousness that determines life, but life that determines consciousness."

      July 21, 2013

  • Mike B.

    The use of "ideology" raises a lot of questions for me. In English ideology is most often used pejoratively. I wonder if we can assume that its use in German here is not only pejorative but more specifically suggesting a negative attitude toward "idealism" in Germany.

    July 21, 2013

  • Rick O.

    Just started the work. I would say I'm liking it, but I'm tired of saying that about everything. So I'll make a comment instead - the second par is one sentence "All this is supposed to have taken place in the realm of pure thought." - Sweet (only makes sense, though, after the first par).

    2 · July 19, 2013

  • Rick O.

    the specter of German Idealism - We read the first part, right? "Cr of Mod Ger Phil According to its Reps? - about 500 pp? - or just the first part about Feuerbach - want to make sure before I dive in

    July 16, 2013

    • A former member
      A former member

      Yes, just the first part, on Feuerbach and thesis on Feuerbach :D

      July 16, 2013

    • A former member
      A former member

      *theses -_-

      July 16, 2013

  • Dan

    A specter is haunting Meetup...

    1 · July 16, 2013

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