Hegel: "Science of Logic"

Come "One"...  Come "Many",  because we've been allowed to spill over into the room adjoining the usual central one.  And some cookies, brownies and cupcakes await.

The 2nd of ten discussions on Hegel's  "Science of Logic": 
covering from the opening of "Book One:  Doctrine of Being"  through the end of "Chapter 1: Being" (of Section 1)

If folks want to, we could actually read these initial and important twenty-four pages aloud, and still have plenty of time for discussion throughout and afterward.

In my old version (@ 1969  George Allen & Unwin ,  London), translated by A.V. Miller and foreword-ed by J.N. Findlay, this 2nd dose amounts to pp. 81-->108.

A newer translation by George di Giovanni is available on-line or find it under FILES (above): http://files.meetup.com/1470198/Hegel%20-%20Science%20of%20Logic%20%28Cambridge%29.pdf

In di Giovanni, this 2nd dose amounts to pp. 58-82.

For a friendly "description" I still pilfer from others more concise (not to mention credible):

Mr. G.R.G. Mure:
"...philosophy is no more the exclusive business of professionals than is art or religion."

J.N. Findlay:
"Hegel will appear as the greatest of European thinkers, engaged in a self-critical enterprise which even he only half understood, whose most obscure, botched utterances are often worth many of the lucidities of modern philosophers."

Etienne Gilson:
"Hegel was not a philosopher;  he was a world, a self-creating world..."

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  • Kate K.

    I can't find yoiu guys :( Did the location change??

    April 16

  • Rick O.

    (from the close of observation 3)

    This is your brain on Aristotle:
    A = A

    This is your brain on Hegel:
    A = ~ ( ~ A)

    any questions

    1 · April 16

    • George

      A <=> - (-A) ?

      1 · April 16

    • Rick O.

      ah - of course - how could I leave out sublation? (or whatever that word is) - that changes everything

      April 16

  • Rick O.

    It doesn't get any better than this (from Observation 2):

    "...a proposition, in the form of a judgment, is ill fitted to express speculative truths; acquaintance with this fact would be apt to remove many misunderstandings of speculative truths. Judgment is a relation between subject and predicate, and it abstracts from the fact that the predicate is not the only determinateness of the subject, and also is wider than the subject. Now when the content is speculative the non-identical nature of the subject and predicate is an essential moment; but this is not expressed in the judgment. The paradoxical and bizarre light in which many aspects of modern philosophy appear to those unacquainted with speculative thought, is frequently due to the form of the simple judgment when it is used to express speculative truths."

    I think he just dismissed the analytical world-view?

    1 · April 13

    • George

      I would also highlight the first three sentences of "Remark 3: The Isolating of the Abstractions."

      (page 93 of Miller:)
      "The unity, whose moments, being and nothing, are inseparable, is at the same time different from them and is thus a third to them; this third in its own most characteristic form is becoming.

      Transition is the same as becoming except that in the former one tends to think of the two terms, from one of which transition is made to the other, as at rest, apart from each other, the transition taking place between them.

      Now wherever and in whatever form being and nothing are in question, this third must be present; for the two terms have no separate subsistence of their own but are only in becoming, in this third."

      April 16

    • George

      (page 69 of di Giovanni's text, or page 142 of the 863 page link to/of it; or the last three sentences of marginal index "21.80" and the first sentence of 21.81":)

      The unity, whose moments, being and nothing, are inseparable, is at the same time different from these moments.
      It thus stands as a third with respect to them -- a third which, in its most proper form, is becoming.

      Transition is the same as becoming except that the two terms, from one of which the transition is made to the other, are represented in it more as at rest, outside each other, the transition occurring between them.

      Now, (21.81) wherever and however being or nothing are at issue, this third must be there; for the two have no subsistence on their own but are only in becoming, in this third."

      April 16

  • George

    Pages 58-82 in Di Giovanni.

    April 8

  • jerry

    The conversation turned to the nature of dialectics. "Basically," said Hegel, "it is nothing more than the regulated and methodically cultivated spirit of opposition inherent in every human being as a talent which shows its greatness in the distinction of the true from the false."

    “If only,” interrupted Goethe, “such intellectual arts and skills were not frequently misused and misemployed to make true what is false and false what is true!”.

    “I suppose that sort of thing is done,” answered Hegel, “but only by people who are intellectually sick.”.

    “That is why I prefer the study of nature,” said Goethe, “which does not allow such sickness to arise. For there we have to do with infinite and eternal truth that immediately rejects anyone who does not proceed neatly and honestly in observing and handling his subject. I am also certain that many a person who is dialectically sick could find a beneficial cure in the study of nature. Conversations of Goethe with Johann Peter Eckermann.

    2 · April 15

  • Erik C.

    If anyone has particular passages that they are interested in, feel free to post them here so we can keep them in mind - perhaps even talk about them now if somebody feels stuck.

    1 · April 8

  • Brian

    We need to correct the page numbers. I think the beginning of Book 1 to the end of Chapter 1 (as stated above) makes sense but that's a slightly longer span of pages than stated above.

    1 · April 7

    • George

      Pages 58-82 in Di Giovanni.

      April 8

    • Brian

      Oh thanks George

      April 8

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