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Nietzsche "On the Genealogy of Morals" - wk 6

We reach the end of our travels, starting at section 16 of the third essay.

"Unconcerned, mocking, violent - thus wisdom wants us: she is a woman, and always loves only a warrior." - from Thus Spoke Zarathustra

With our close perhaps we can fully understand what Nietzsche means when he calls the third essay an  exegesis of this aphorism.

Perhaps the point of the Genealogy is not what Nietzsche unveils in the first two essays -  but what he does in the third?  Are we too easily drawn into the voluptuousness of the beginning essays, and miss the point of where Nietzsche wants - so desperately - to take us?  Is this 'only' a perspective?

To ask it again - "What is the meaning of ascetic ideals?"


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  • Mike B.

    Great

    June 24, 2014

  • Rick O.

    re: conatus-
    "Each thing, in so far as it is in itself, endeavors to persevere in its being." IIIpVI
    "The mind endeavors as much as possible to imagine those things which increase or assist the body's power of acting." IIIpXII

    Nietzsche's will to power is the same as Spinoza's conatus as laid out in Ethics bk III prop VI - XII, except for one thing:
    "It can be shown most clearly that every living thing does everything it can not to preserve itself, but to become MORE." WTP 688

    Ultimately Nietzsche drops any distinction between the organic and inorganic, calling it a prejudice.

    1 · June 22, 2014

  • Mike B.

    General question: When "life-enhancing" is introduced in the works of Nietzsche, can I assume that by"life" Nietzsche means "human life," not every for of life?

    June 19, 2014

    • Imran M.

      "My idea is that every specific body strives to become master over all space and to extend its force (its will to power) and to thrust back all that resists its extension. But it continually encounters similar efforts on the part of other bodies and ends by coming to an arrangement ("union") with those of them that are sufficiently related to it: thus they then conspire together for power. And the process goes on."

      June 21, 2014

    • Imran M.

      I think we read something like that in de Beauvoir, too

      June 21, 2014

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