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  • Dec 15, 2013 · 3:00 PM
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We will meet in the Kogod Courtyard, make introductions, suggest topics then as a group vote on one or more to discuss.

 

Our discussions are not one against the other but intended to explore all sides of the subjects we discuss in true philosophic manner seeking truth and wisdom.

 

Please join us and contribute your unique perspective.

 

Steve

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  • Steven

    I must admit the comments that no one feels at all oppressed by the government being too invasive makes me imagine a person with head phones on standing between railroad tracks with people motioning him to move and commenting, as the train is almost upon him from behind he does not realize what all the fuss is about. History is ripe with this lesson and those that do not know of it are indeed doomed to repeat it. It is not a question of if, it is only a question of when. Oh, I am sure some will say Steve you are old and you do not know of these new modern ways. To that I will just smile.

    December 16, 2013

  • A former member
    A former member

    All, sorry for the last minute change, but my schedule for the weekend has been tighter than expected and I won't be able to make it today after all. I look forward to meeting some of you at the next event.

    December 15, 2013

  • Paul

    In tune with the theme Steven introduces, I give you Bertrand Russell's The Value of Philosophy: http://skepdic.com/russell.html

    2 · December 5, 2013

    • A former member
      A former member

      Paul-

      By simply saying: "....none exists yet...", demonstrates your presupposition. This is precisely what I am pointing out to you. Again, we all have presuppositions which drive us to draw conclusions...including you. I hope this is in no way offensive, as that is not the spirit in which I am trying to communicate this to you.

      December 15, 2013

    • Steven

      Paul is correct in his reasoning based on logic. Without any presupposition if the Aquinas argument was valid it would be on everyone's lips and this would long be settled. Paul takes the proper perspective in pointing out the fallacies with which I agree. Anyone that thinks they can prove by logic either side is immediately recognized as incorrect and provides great opportunity to learn what Paul attempts to convey and that is logical reasoning, he is quite good at it I assure you. This matter is not subject to logic so Aquinas was in obvious error.

      December 15, 2013

  • Steven

    It appears we will have plenty to talk about today and if the group is large enough we will split up and talk about multiple topics. I will also ask for volunteers for more of a "social" style philosophy subgroup to perhaps have meetings on a week night. I have been in discussions with Josh Levin who runs the West End Cinema in Georgetown who will accommodate the DC Philosophy Café providing us a separate theatre to watch films on an exclusive and discounted basis along with a meeting room to discuss them afterward over drinks they serve there. Hopefully, someone today will offer to help organize those meetings?

    1 · December 15, 2013

  • A former member
    A former member

    I'm sorry but I've had something come up and will be unable to attend this weekend. I look forward to resuming in the new year. Happy Holidays everyone.

    December 13, 2013

  • Angelia

    I am going to make it. Excited to hear your thoughts

    December 12, 2013

  • Phil M.

    I was looking forward to an excuse to research Honor = /

    December 8, 2013

    • Steven

      From my reading of the Iliad and the Odyssey I would say that two very different codes are presented as practiced by Achilles and by Odysseus and in this poetic form it presents a range of honor to be considered not prescribed. Likewise the Syrian Priest Nadia mentions may represent honor misapplied so it is not the concept of honor itself that is the harm but on what honor is based. In some cases honor can be a reason and in other cases an excuse.

      1 · December 9, 2013

    • Paul

      I would agree. Achilles has andreia, but it is focused by his rage, and some would say, his petulence after being denied his spoils - is this man worthy of honor? Odysseus manifests his heroism by his cunning (NOT intelligence) in the Iliad, but finds his arete in the Odyssey.

      December 9, 2013

  • Dee

    No topic in advance? Let talk about chaos! :)

    December 9, 2013

    • Steven

      That's a group decision but I suggest it be done in an organized fashion :)

      2 · December 9, 2013

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