Welcome to the group! I hope you can make it next Wednesday. RSVP so that we can keep you in the loop :)
I looked up 'emergence' and in wikipedia there is this:
The usage of the notion "emergence" may generally be subdivided into two perspectives, that of "weak emergence" and "strong emergence". Weak emergence is a type of emergence in which the emergent property is reducible to its individual constituents. This is opposed to strong emergence, in which the emergent property is irreducible to its individual constituents.
So, unfortunately, there seems to be two quite different meanings
welcome arnon to the group and for bringing the ignostic view aka another mind/self/ego invention
In our discussion last meeting, the point I was trying to make, poorly, is that there is an objective ontological reality out 'there'.
Then there is the model we create to represent reality, which is more or less accurate.
The bridge between reality and our models is data.
I was trying to say that raw data is 100 percent accurate. An electron counter counts so many electrons or a spectrometer measures emf spectrum from a star, or we see a glass.
No interpretation, data only.