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Topics for March 2011 Meetup

Luke B.
luke.burgess
Edinburgh, GB
Post #: 12
Future gatherings are going to be a little more structured to help the evening flow a little easier as well as provide a level of expectation for each meetup.

As such, I am keen to gain an insight into what topics (be a specific as possible) you would like to see covered, whether there are any speakers who you would like us to invite (be realistic) or indeed a specific problem which you would like help to resolve or wish to throw open to debate.

Please discuss openly, I look forward to your suggestions!



A former member
Post #: 1
Hi Luke,

Would be great to discuss HTML5 at the next meetup.

Thanks,

Adam
A former member
Post #: 1
+1 vote for html5.

I'm also interested in all things "offline". Local storage, cache manifest, NoSQL databases(MongoDB, CouchDB) etc. But I know almost nothing about these topics...
A former member
Post #: 3
Hey Simon,

I'm just learning that now as I have a mobile website I need to take offline. this is the book I'm using http://ofps.oreilly.c...­

I'll feedback in more detail once I've done it but it doesn't look to tricky.

Can anyone tell me, is Jquery part of html5 or os html5 just the new tags that being bought in for video, drag and drop etc?

Cheers

Steve
Susan Pierce S.
user 13922107
Edinburgh, GB
Post #: 1
HTML5 gets a vote for me too :)

I'd be quite interested in topics related to workflow / productivity tools etc..

Usability / UI / UX

mobile web in more detail?

I would also be interested in javascript and php but probably wouldn't have much to contribute...

I'll try and think of more..
James
JamesJarOfGreen
Edinburgh, GB
Post #: 3
Hello all,

We had a talk on HTML5 at TechMeetup recently
http://vimeo.com/1976...­
The slides Dale uses are in fact just a website - http://www.html5rocks...­ I think it was.

jQuery is not part of HTML5, its a Javascript library. HTML5 is just the new tags like <video>.
Altho that said HTML5 is becoming a umbrella marketing term.
In Dale's talk you'll find much stuff which is new JS libraries in the browser.
But you can use jQuery with "old" browsers and HTML so in that sense it's not HTML5.

As for what I'd like to see I'm not sure, Usability / UI / UX, mobile web, javascript and php are all interesting.
And def workflow / productivity tools seeing as I work on http://elastik.sf.net...­ (plug, plug :-p )
A former member
Post #: 2
Workflow gets my vote too! Thanks James I'll check out that vimeo link. I'd also be interested in learning more about the elastik project you are working on—that looks ace
A former member
Post #: 4
Thanks James also. As I suspected about JQ. it's not html5 but nether the less is a valuable resource moving forward. (one that I would hold in higher regard in actual fact.) html5 tags seem limited compared to the power of JQ. Not to mention JQtouch.

For anyone looking at mobile webstuff, get an ipod touch and look into jqtouch. Iphone type animation without the need to learn objective C.

Luke B.
luke.burgess
Edinburgh, GB
Post #: 13
html5 tags seem limited compared to the power of JQ. Not to mention JQtouch.

Steve, I think that you are missing the point. jQuery is simply a Javascript library which makes it easier to act upon your markup (whether that complies to the HTML4, XHTML 1.0 or HTML5 spec, or whatever). jQuery's main benefit is that it simply makes querying the DOM more convenient due to its powerful selector engine. It's simplicity and arguably the hype built up around it, meant that lots of people built lots of plugins which just act upon the DOM elements which match the selector... hence it has become so widely used and why so many people don't realise that it JUST A LIBRARY build on top of an already existing API.

HTML5 introduces not only new tags to aid semantics, but it has really transformed what is possible in the browser natively (ie without having to lean on 3rd-party plugins such as Flash, Silverlight, etc). To save regurgitation, here is a link to learn more about what is possible with HTML5 (probably best viewed in a Webkit derivative such as Chrome or Safari).

P.S. CSS3 animation makes it very easy to implement iPod/iPad/iPhone animations in a supporting web browser, which is actually what JQTouch uses under the hood, as it were. JQTouch is really just a UI framework targeted at mobile devices, implemented as a JQuery plugin. Others include Sencha Touch (my personal favourite). What I mean to say is that whilst these frameworks bind together a collection of technologies in an easy-to-implement form, they cannot be compared to the technologies themselves.


Apologies for the mini-rant :)
James
JamesJarOfGreen
Edinburgh, GB
Post #: 4
Good point to make :-)

BTW Anyone else going to http://www.phpuceu.or...­ in Manchester next weekend?

I volunteered to do this session http://contribs.eu.ph...­ - could do it with you folk to if you want. That would include a bit of Elastik.

If you want to try Elastik, you can sign up for a demo account on-line now http://demo.elastik.j...­ Just added that, that was my sunday afternoon project :-)

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