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Workshop: Imaging Moon and Night Cityscape

  • Nov 16, 2013 · 4:00 PM
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Imaging the moon is relatively easy, so is imaging the night time cityscape. Imaging them both simultaneously, in-camera, is anything but trivial... There is at least a ten stop difference between a full moon and a night time cityscape... Not a problem for post processing if you have the software for exposure blending... It is a "problem" when you don't have the software...
We will explore the various methods available to the intrepid photographer... I have scheduled this Meetup on Saturday, because some don't like Sunday evening Meetups, however Sunday will be the "Rain Date"

Now down to the subject at hand. What should you bring to this Meetup?

• Camera with the capability of manual shutter and aperture settings

• Tripod

• Optional:  2 x 4-1/4 in. Gold Poly Replacement Lens or 2 x 4-1/4 in. Tinted Glass Replacement Lens or 4-1/2 x 5-1/4 in. Tinted Glass Replacement Lens available through Princess Auto for < $10 (with the exception of the Gold Poly, these lens are usually tinted green, whose tint can be removed by various free software)

• Optional: Remote shutter release

This will take time to make one of these images, patience is required. The above images are the result of some 92 images taken between 5:40 and 7:40 PM, mind you, only three images each using exposure blending.

We will cover:

• when to made moon and cityscape images

• what is Exposure Blending & when to use it

• when & why to auto-bracket

• bracketing: step-by-step

• in-camera Dodge & Burn

Editing in PhotoShop, GIMP or PhotoShop Elements is beyond the scope of this free workshop, however a discussion of this process and a demonstration of the process during/after the workshop will be provided.

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  • Laura G.

    Some of my photos from last night are too large
    www.flickr.com/photos/lauragarnett if you'd like to check them out and other work I've done.

    November 17, 2013

    • Shawn Michael M.

      Personally I only export mine at 1024 along the side

      November 24, 2013

  • Shawn Michael M.

    Wouldn't it be fun to try this again, say April[masked] :-) ⏰

    1 · November 17, 2013

  • Laura G.

    Didn't get to know how to use the effect for the nights topic...too many people to learn from one!

    November 17, 2013

  • Steve G.

    Any time I can learn new things from like-minded people is a great meetup. Thanks to Shawn, Rick and Roman.

    1 · November 17, 2013

  • Carol B.

    Great support from Shawn,lots of information sharing

    November 17, 2013

  • Howard

    Informative, good to see Shawn again. ;)

    November 16, 2013

  • Wahed M.

    I Just uploaded photo, but seems not showing up (may be takes couple of minutes).. However, here is my flickr photo
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/wahedmohammed/10897066525/

    November 16, 2013

  • Daiva

    Shawn, Thank you for all your help tonight. I learned a lot and I appreciated you sharing your knowledge. Cheers!

    November 16, 2013

  • Shawn Michael M.

    If anyone wants a souvenir of tonight I have an autograph of Howard Bernard on a $5 bill I'm willing to sell for 10 bucks. :-)

    November 16, 2013

  • Shawn Michael M.

    Definitely get the free eBook (in the interest of total disclosure, I do get a stipend if you decide to purchase through these links) If you deside to buy, hold off untill "Black Friday" or "Cybor Monday" a little birdy told me there may be a holiday sale for eBooks from Black Friday (Nov. 29th) to Jan 1st, 2014. It will be 50% off any individual eBook as well as the collection (which is already 25% off retail) so that would be a large discount. The discount code will be “holiday” and will not be case sensitive - keeping it simple :)

    Exposure Blending
    <a href="https://www.e-junkie.com/ecom/gb.php?ii=1275787&c=ib&aff=262773&cl=193823"; target="ejejcsingle">Click here to view more details</a>

    November 16, 2013

  • Shawn Michael M.

    eBooks etc on Exposure Blending, great site, lots of tuts and articles
    Access through these links:
    To visit Christopher ODonnell Photography web site
    <a href="https://www.e-junkie.com/ecom/gb.php?cl=193823&c=ib&aff=262773"; target="ejejcsingle">Click here to visit Christopher ODonnell Photography.</a>

    November 16, 2013

  • Shawn Michael M.

    I think we did pretty good. As promised, some links: Enfuse can be down loaded from here http://enblend.sourceforge.net/ The Lightroom plugin can be downloaded from here http://www.photographers-toolbox.com/products/lrenfuse.php

    November 16, 2013

  • Wahed M.

    Thank You Shawn for Organizing, a great turn-out event. Your passion for the photography is amazing... Appreciated.

    November 16, 2013

  • Howard

    Enjoyed the Workshop: Imaging Moon and Night Cityscape. Thanks for giving your time Shawn!

    1 · November 16, 2013

  • Rob S.

    Sorry something came up. R

    November 16, 2013

  • Nihar K.

    My problem is, I am currently in possession of only a 50mm lens.
    What do you suggest ?

    November 16, 2013

  • AnnMarie N.

    I'm afraid I'm out, now. Sorry to miss it. :-(

    November 16, 2013

  • Steve G.

    Hi Shawn, Do you know if there is stair access from the Portage Bridge? It looks as though I will be busing it there from Orleans.

    November 16, 2013

  • Jean-Michel

    solution for limited parking :
    carpooling, when possible...

    November 16, 2013

  • Tanglebones

    Apologies - can't make it after all. Have fun, people.

    November 16, 2013

  • Nasser

    Great meetup, never tried it before

    November 15, 2013

  • Shawn Michael M.

    Parking... There approximately 20 parking spots on Victoria Island, better known as Middle Street... There are hundreds for parking spots down by the river (Cliff Street) behind the Library and Archives Canada building... Middle Street is accessed from Booth Street Chaudiere Crossing heading from Ottawa only... I am not sure how Cliff Street is accessed...

    November 14, 2013

  • Joël D.

    I was reading the comments and saw that a 10 stop ND filter will work. I have a variable ND. I guess that's ok also?

    November 14, 2013

  • Ginny F.

    I just read through all the posts. I sure hope you are going to explain how to do this, because I am now totally confused. LOL. Looking forward to the meet up Shawn!

    1 · November 12, 2013

    • Shawn Michael M.

      That's why we call it a workshop instead of a "Let's go take some snapshots of the moon and such" :-)

      November 12, 2013

  • Ginny F.

    Hi Sean. Is this still open for other photographers to join? I know someone who would like to come.

    November 5, 2013

    • Shawn Michael M.

      Hi Ginny. There is no limit on this Meetup... If your "someone" is not a member, just revise your RSVP to include a guest...

      November 6, 2013

    • Ginny F.

      Thanks Shawn.

      November 6, 2013

  • Timothy

    Any film photographers attending?

    November 6, 2013

  • Nasser

    Great meetup, never tried it before

    November 3, 2013

  • Shawn Michael M.

    Please... Read your manual for your camera and lens. I don't expect you to know how to do everything to your camera and lens, but I would hope you would know that you could put your camera and lens in full manual, or not... I have read my manual many times in the last five years, and there are still occasions in which I can't even convince it to trip the shutter, but I do know that somewhere in the manual there is a paragraph on how to set up an option that will prevent the shutter from tripping under the very conditions I am trying to make an image. :-)
    Refresh your memory on how to change camera settings for: full manual exposure, aperture priority, Back Button Focus (if you have it), mirror up, sometimes called Anti-shock, metering (fancy, centre weighted, spot), manual focus (both camera and lens if required) and White Balance. And last but not least AE BRk (Automatic Exposure Bracketing) or at least how to change your exposure by plus or minus one stop (EV) ... :-)

    1 · November 3, 2013

  • Shawn Michael M.

    Second note on WB; try the Cloudy (6000K) setting to warm up your scenes (making them more orange) or Tungsten (3200K) to cool down the temperature (making them look more blue).

    November 3, 2013

  • Shawn Michael M.

    Night photography basic guidelines.

    - set up your tripod and anchor the camera onto it securely, hang your camera bag or a sand bag under the tripod if it has a hook. That will add extra stability.
    - set your camera’s ISO as low as possible, ISO 100 or 200. This will help keep the noise (graininess) of the final image to a minimum
    - set your camera exposure mode to Manual
    - set your aperture to f8 (this is just a starting point)
    - set your shutter speed to expose for the sky (keep it dark but not pitch black, you want only a small amount of detail in your background)
    - set your white balance accordingly; "daylight" balance for the moon; or what ever, meaning if you are using a flashlight that’s tungsten set it to that for neutral colour; if you’re using flash chose flash or daylight. Ideally if you can shoot in RAW format you can adjust it later if the colour isn’t quite to your liking
    - turn on your autofocus, focus in the right spot, and then turn it off

    November 3, 2013

  • Shawn Michael M.

    Optional items but really handy to have:

    - a headlamp (the kind you get for camping that slips over your head)
    - a timing remote to count exposures over 30 seconds, or you can use your Smart phone
    - a friend to help you (this is essential with doing some of the techniques)
    - an external speedlight or flash (you can get one for your brand of camera or one that’s inexpensive such as a Vivitar or a Yongnuo, as it won’t be on the camera anyway (***note: do not attach an older model Vivitar 283 or 285 to your camera it will fry the electronics!***)

    November 3, 2013

  • Shawn Michael M.

    I know I listed what you should bring with you, but I was reading an article by my friend Darlene and decided to kite her list and publish it here:
    - a camera that can shoot in manual exposure mode (and manual focus as well) and do exposures of 30 seconds
    - a sturdy tripod to hold it still during the long exposures
    - a remote to trigger the shutter release (you can use the self timer if your camera doesn’t accept or you don't have a remote)
    - something for doing the lighting: some options include flashlights, coloured glow sticks, gloves with glowing fingertips, in-case the moon doesn't want to come out to play.
    - something for spinning the light if you want to make orbs, I bought an inexpensive chain style dog leash at the dollar store and attached my lights to the end (under no circumstances are we spinning fire within the city limits without a permit)

    November 3, 2013

  • Paul D.

    picked up the 3 lenses from Princess Auto today. Some of each in stock. I guess the small ones will work with the 50mm (complete coverage of camera lens).

    October 29, 2013

    • Shawn Michael M.

      If you keep it moving, it makes a descent GND for long exposures...

      October 30, 2013

  • Shawn Michael M.

    Just had to add this: Moon Photography: 6 Tips for Better Moon Photos http://digital-photography-school.com/moon-photography-tips-moon-photos

    October 29, 2013

  • Ginny F.

    Hmmm. Do you know anywhere in the west end that these replacement lenses can be found. I'm also wondering how you attach them.

    October 20, 2013

    • Shawn Michael M.

      A SHADE 9, 10, or 11 will work well for nightscapes, hand held to the front of the lens, as light leakage won't be a problem.

      October 27, 2013

    • Steve G.

      Thanks for the part numbers. I have one of each on the way. Looking forward to this.

      October 28, 2013

  • Carol B.

    I have a 10 stop ND filter so is that ok for this activity?

    October 21, 2013

    • Carol B.

      thanks Shawn. Do I still need the replacement lens in your original message?

      October 27, 2013

    • Shawn Michael M.

      no Carol, I will show you how your 10 stop ND filter can be used in unique ways

      October 27, 2013

  • Michel G.

    I tried to find the gold poly filter but even at Princess Auto they had no idea what I was talking about. Has anyone found this filter anywhere?

    October 26, 2013

  • Steve G.

    Coincidence would have it that I ran across this after reading your post Shawn. Check out Tip #5

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPyjib3qgO8&feature=share&list=SPD78DF1BFEAAE0C1B

    October 21, 2013

    • Daiva

      Tip #7 blew my mind the first time I saw that video. So simple that I can't believe I never thought if it before.

      October 21, 2013

    • Shawn Michael M.

      Useful yes, but not in this case, as the shield would be used as a "flag"

      October 22, 2013

  • hichael

    Very educational. I just ordered Nd filters from ebay.Its good to try something new.

    2 · October 21, 2013

  • Nasser

    Great meetup, never tried it before

    1 · October 21, 2013

  • Penny M.

    Those optional replacement lenses sound pretty cool - for this and other conditions as well. Definitely have to pick those up - great tip, thanks!

    1 · October 20, 2013

  • Shawn Michael M.

    An explanation of the Optional "Replacement Lens" may be required. They are not a camera lens, but a Welding Shield Replacement Lens used as inexpensive ($2.50) Neutral Density filters that are fun to use...

    1 · October 19, 2013

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