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"Bring Back British Rail!!"

Should we just renationalise British Rail?!

In light of the recent Fiasco over Virgin failing to secure a single contract to run a railway line, I thought this could be quite fun to consider.

Personally speaking I've been incredibly confused by the array of different pricing options since privatisation too... I'm often left puzzling over whether a super dooper return is better than a humdinger off peaker... maybe if I stand on one leg the price may reduce further?! Shit it's gone up.

Too much choice?! Do we miss good old British rail? Are we craving, nay yearning to a return to the simple life?

As an aside, I went to a post office to have in item returned to Amazon the other day. Who the frig are collect + ?! Never heard of them, but it was flipping annoying knowing I'd gone to the wrong place. Can we have one postal system too please?! Just one that's better ran the state run shambles we had before?! Is that too much to ask?

You see, me personally I'm not a Socialist, and my arguments isn't made from an anti competition, or anti capitalist view point.. it's made from a desire to make my life simpler and easier... that is all!

Start the debating/Arguing right now if you like?

Please go to the Discussion page to add your two pence worth prior to the actual debate on the 25th October!

http://www.meetup.com/London-Debating-Society/messages/boards/

This is a new idea, I think it would be quite fun if we whet our appetite on the issues here first before fronting up face to face at the main event! This also means if you can't make the actual event, you can still share your thoughts on the subject!!

So, please do come as my guests! Other Lansdowne regulars will also be in attendance, they are a diverse, fun and interesting crowd, and we're all looking forward to you joining us too, and bringing along your views! (or just watching and taking it all if you prefer!)

RSVP & Dress code

Please RSVP if you'd like to join in on this debate! The dress code at the club is smart casual (no jeans, trainers, men have to wear a jacket...). Just come in and say you're with Marcus Warry, and they will direct you to the Sun Room for the debate! See you there!

P.S. Debates are always held on the last thursday of every month. Sign up to as many as you like!

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  • Peter T.

    Elegantly chaired again by Marcus with a light hand. Persuasively argued by Roger Lewis. Animated debate with excellent contributions from everybody.

    October 26, 2012

  • terence f.

    Interesting viewpoints made and questioned.

    October 26, 2012

  • Peter T.

    I agree that modern railway travel pricing is a minefield but it's nothing new. I remember an elderly friend of my father telling us about an experience he had on British Rail in the 1950's. Half way between Darlington and Carlisle, a man in his compartment leapt off the train at a station to breathlessly return moments later with a small cardboard ticket in his hand. He had discovered that he would save a shilling by purchasing a ticket for the second half of the journey at an intermediate station.

    Martin Lewis has a mobile phone application called TicketySplit for modern day enthusiasts who prefer to emmulate this man's efforts online.

    October 6, 2012

    • Marcus W.

      I love that story! By the way, we now have a speaker coming from the "Bring Back British Rail" Campaign! So that should add some zing to the thing.. would anyone like to take him on I wonder?! Peter?!

      October 9, 2012

    • Lei Z.

      Quite an interesting story, Peter. I also think nationalising the railway system would not simply solve the pricing problem, either. In the other way round, due to the inefficiency of public sector, I am worring that it will cause a big mess to the transporting system actually. The continuous reform of NHS system have not brought any satisfying result yet, so I think nationalising does not mean perfectionalize, and the increasing power held by the public sector may result in more corruption and it can used by the politicians for their own benefit actually. The political party's involvement into the managment can be a big disaster for both the companies and the whole sectors. ( Good example can be demonstrated by Veolia, a French waste management company, the politicians are not quite business iliterate themselves, and they turn the boardroom into the battle field for their own authority actually).

      October 10, 2012

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