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The Moral Map: Value and Emotion, 2

  • Aug 9, 2012 · 7:00 PM
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The topic of the previous meeting was so rich and engaging that it needs another session (at least) to discuss it all. We managed to categorize air as a generic type of value. Moral values, by contrast, not only are central to our lives but can also excite and fuel our passions.

What facts of reality give rise to the concept of morality?

This is a meta-ethical question. Let's examine one component of the answer by looking more closely at the epistemological ideas undergirding ethics. They include belief, knowledge, emotion, desire, want, character, conviction, value, virtue, objectivity, subjectivity, purpose. Brief special mentions include pragmatism, rationalism, causality, choice, action, (moral) idealism.

The bonus question to ask, if we finish early, is, can the various ethical systems be classified meta-ethically on the basis of beliefs?

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  • A former member
    A former member

    Good then. I am looking forward to the next meeting, where we will laugh, get serious, laugh again, and then go our separate ways with smiles in our minds.

    August 10, 2012

  • A former member
    A former member

    Very enlightening and entertaining meeting. Warm, friendly and smart group of guys who made me feel welcome. I had a wonderful evening pushing a few buttons. Speaking of which I want a copy of the pics ;-) See you next week, will send a few pointers for reading on what the heck I was talking about if anyone wants to follow up and challenge me!

    August 10, 2012

  • Mark G.

    I've enjoyed all the meetups, but I think this has been my favorite so far. One of the attendees has been teaching philosophy for 28 years and offered some lively discussion on the topic of morallity and whether moral principles can be universal or relative to the individual and culture. I feel like I'm at the point where a lot of this is starting to come together. I agree with a fair amount of what's been presented by Tom at the meetups, but still need time to process all the info, before I can really decide for myself what I think.

    August 10, 2012

  • A former member
    A former member

    I thought it was great. It was a very lively discussion with a new member, and everybody pitched in.

    August 10, 2012

  • Tom O.

    It was really good and humorously entertaining. The meeting demonstrated six times over why morality has to be grounded on a proper metaphysical and epistemological foundation. One faulty brick, and the edifice falls. Fabienne, enchanté de vous connaître!

    August 10, 2012

  • Tom O.

    It would seem that what you want discussed, Derek, requires many assumptions that participants have not yet addressed or granted. Why is love a virtue--much less, a cardinal one? How is an emotion related to a virtue or a vice? What distinguishes love from pride? Why is the latter a vice--much less, a deadly sin? Why is thinking of something, either more or less, necessarily laudable or blameable? Answers to these questions are presumed in your comments. This next meeting is much more basic. The central question is still "What is morality?"

    August 8, 2012

  • Tom O.

    I can send a quick summary of the previous meeting to anyone interested in going to this one.

    August 7, 2012

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