Re: [permaculture-117] Permaculture sites in Vancouver area

From: Grant W.
Sent on: Tuesday, November 12, 2013 12:24 PM
Myra, you do have a lot of constraints, and that just makes the problem more interesting. Yes, permaculture is about thoughtful design, and a fundamental design principle is "obtain a yield". Surely there is some kind of food you can grow that won't attract bears (walnuts, mushrooms, sunchokes, brocolli?) If the local humans won't harvest the crops, can you find someone else who will? Maybe a bed-and-breakfast nearby will buy them. Of course your yield could be non-food, like building materials, art supplies, oxygen :-)

You may have trouble finding a permaculture site that has similar design constraints. I suggest you start by finding out what markets there are for food & fibre products that are feasible (& permissible) for you to grow. If its just ornamental, its not permaculture. I think Whistler still has lots of oxygen.

Have fun with it!

Grant Watson
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Grant's Gourmet Gardens



On[masked], at 2:26 PM, walk-in-beauty wrote:

I agree that it seems a 'waste' not to have food but I have to disagree that no food is at odds with permaculture or a contradiction.  My understandings is that permaculture is all about getting the design right for whatever you are trying to achieve.  Believe me, I would love to see fruit trees planted and go out in the mornings and forage for my breakfast but we have to consider we live in Whistler which is bear territory and the muni does as much as it can to encourage bears to forage in the hills away from human habitation and I really respect that.  Isn't that part of permaculture too - designing with nature in mind so that humans and bears can cohabitate without conflict? 

Anyway, I've attached a map of the existing complex layout so you can see the area is very extensive and my vision is to have areas that are already naturally segregated with the walkways re-landscaped with herbs, shrubs and native plants. My other vision is to use this as a subliminal teaching tool for the general public that visits.

Also, if anyone reading this knows of any permies in the sea to sky area, please direct them to our sea to sky meetup page 

Thanks for all your help - Bonny I have checked out the link you sent but will need to investigate a bit further myself before I send him to see it.  I feel like I'm walking on eggshells and don't want to do anything to halt this opportunity.   I'm going to be in Vancouver on Wed so will visit the site first.  

Myra




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On 11 November[masked]:58, Leila <[address removed]> wrote:

A permaculture garden without food in it seems like a contradiction but I guess you could do one for medicinals only. I worked on some revegetation projects in whistler and I have to warn you that we had more issues with bears and lush vegetative growth than youd expect. Not just fruits I'm afraid. If you based it heavily on things that have strong or bitter flavours you might have better luck. They don't like sitka valerian at all but the complex might not either. I would be looking at combining some classic herb garden elements with native plants. I wish i could tell you an example to go look at but I cant think of an established permaculture garden tthat doesnt incorporate food. How much room do you have to work with?

On Nov 10,[masked]:01 PM, "walk-in-beauty" <[address removed]> wrote:
Hi Everyone,

I have put a permaculture landscaping proposal to my Strata council for my Whistler complex and the chairman has asked if there are any good sites he could visit.  I've recently returned to Canada from Scotland where I did my design course so I am not yet familiar with what is around here.  The whole concept of Permaculture is new to the board so I am looking for sites that are more decorative and herbal than food oriented.  We have to be bear aware so growing food is not going to happen here.  Our complex is mostly nightly rentals with a few long term tenants and a growing number of resident owners.  Can anyone suggest some places he could visit to see the potential?  

Thanks,
Myra



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