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Re: [naturalbuilding-41] The Permaculture Guild-A Strategic Plan-Part III

From: Ken B.
Sent on: Sunday, December 15, 2013 8:51 PM
On the home page, menu bar, right hand side, can you see it?


On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 8:46 PM, Shannon <[address removed]> wrote:
My pleasure, Ken! I'm having a hard time finding the group tools option, though. Where on the page is that?

On Dec 15, 2013, at 8:33 PM, Ken Benway wrote:

O.K., it's always been my intention that all members can initiate an email from this Meetup group. The first thing that I would like to do is ask Shannon if she can send an email from this group by going to group tools > email members, and try to send a test email to all members. Shannon could you give this a shot please, and we'll know right away if it is or is not possible? Either way I have a couple of possible fixes if she doesn't succeed. Actually anyone who is not either an event organizer, assistant organizer or co-organizer can try this test. The sooner the better.


On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 3:12 PM, Peggy Campbell <[address removed]> wrote:
Uh, o.k. I went to the site thinking I could compose a message directly from there, but didn't see such an option.  Is it there and I didn't see it?  If not, then is everyone else composing and replying from their emailers?  If so, then it's not Meet -up with the font sizes being small, it would be how they come in from the various emailers.  My font looks the same here in my emailer as it does right on the Meetup site.  The more obstacles there are in the way to smooth communication, the less communicating will get done.  At this time, less obstacles is crucial.  Place too many in my way, and intense interest aside, I just don't have the time to go too far out of my way to participate.  I work many hours and can be quite tired but very willing to listen even when I'm too tired to speak.  But I would rather not have to strain too hard or I will just have to go to where there are less obstacles and a more pleasant experience.  I have lots of energy but need to not use it where it's not effective.  Too many clicks to get there or eye-strain, etc. just won't work for me, no matter how interested I am. 

If everyone else is seeing it well, without a problem, then I would like to know and I can see what other options are available for me to pursue in a better experience.  Anyone who sees this, please weigh in and let me know how the view is from where you are?  Font size too big?  too small?  Too light, too dark?  Paragraphs run on--or not?

Thanks for your feedback,

From: Peggy Campbell <[address removed]>
To: [address removed]
Sent: Sunday, December 15,[masked]:52 PM

Subject: Re: [naturalbuilding-41] The Permaculture Guild-A Strategic Plan-Part III

I checked out seeing the messages directly through the site and noticed that yes, the paragraphs were not compressed but that also, the font was the same size except for a few messages where your replies were larger and bolder.  It's not consistent.  It can depend on where a message is composted....oops, I mean composed, lol!  in the first place.  If composed in one's emailer (like I've been doing it could look one way and then if it's composed in the meetup group itself it could look a different way.  I'll try to compose in the group and see how it turns out for me.  I know that Yahoo groups are the same way.  They actually look and work better if everyone uses their emailer rather than composing in the Yahoo group as the Yahoo group has such limited options for font style, etc.

 


From: Ken Benway <[address removed]>
To: [address removed]
Sent: Sunday, December 15,[masked]:06 PM
Subject: Re: [naturalbuilding-41] The Permaculture Guild-A Strategic Plan-Part III

To Peggy or anyone else that needs to read a more user friendly copy of any email from this group, simply go to the tab at the top of the page marked "discussions" and click "Mailing List" on the pull down menu. These archives are very easy to read and the paragraphs have not been compressed like Yahoo did to Peggy's email.


On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 1:44 PM, Ken Benway <[address removed]> wrote:
Thanks for putting up that screen shot Peggy. Bummer, I see what you mean. I have no way of changing the font on Meetup that I know of. Every Meetup I belong to has the same font. I wish I could come up with an easy solution for you other than set up a gmail account which is probably not a good option for you.
Regarding the timebank offer, don't worry about that, I'll honor my offer outside of the timebank for now. I just need to know when someone gets a new member from another country, who it is and where to deliver the goods, which includes three hours of my time at a location of their choosing, Travel expenses would be nice, especially if it's at the other end of the country.<328.png>


On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 1:02 PM, Peggy Campbell <[address removed]> wrote:
In the interest of time, (my own and those who may read this, I will be as brief as I can be while still being clear:

1.  I'm not sure if it's my email program (yahoo) or Meet-up or your computer or my computer, but the text on your message is coming in to me with a fairly small, hard to read font size.  Also, recently, Yahoo made some change (which I think and hope is not finalized) where I have less control over my font sizes in my email composing.  I am currently only able to select:  small, medium and large or something to that effect.  No numbers whatsoever.
Small is tiny to me, about like what I'm seeing with yours, Ken.  Medium is this which is somewhat too large but for now, I don't have any other choice.  Yes, I can zoom in on my screen but for various reasons would rather not have to do that.  If anyone knows any solutions or ideas for this, I would love it!

2.  Somehow, no matter how much I am trying keep up with all the info streaming into my email and FB newsfeeds, (not all, but what is really interesting to me at the moment), I seemed to have missed the point that this group was for the Earth and not St. Pete.  Glad to hear that, really puts a different spin on things.  Since this and the other one that is really St. Pete. were the closest Meet-ups on Permaculture at the time (and maybe still are!), I joined them as a person on the edge, pretty far out from the edge, really.  Figuring of course that there is some benefit to connecting, even if I'm not in St. Pete.  (Lakeland, about 1 hour 15 min. inland from St. Pete.)

3.  It is helpful to me when I'm reading online or in a book to have the message separated a little more into paragraphs by subject.  Especially when there is a lengthy message.  I am an avid reader and I am pushing myself to read the messages despite the small font and mass of words.  Often, I have to scan and read quickly to get the overall message, sometimes able to return and read and digest a little more thoroughly.  Separating by subject a little more really helps me with comprehension and retention.

4.  I am sure I can find some from other countries to join!  :-)  Been a member of Tampa Time Bank for a year (not active) and now a member of our fledgling Polk County Time Bank.  Not sure what Time Bank in particular you would be offering the hours for or how you could.  But I am fine with passing on that if I was the first and letting someone else have them. 

Thanks!

 


From: Ken Benway <[address removed]>
To: [address removed]
Sent: Sunday, December 15,[masked]:48 AM
Subject: [naturalbuilding-41] The Permaculture Guild-A Strategic Plan-Part III

So I'm going to spend a bit of time talking about Meetup groups and how we can increase the effectiveness of this tool as a vehicle to increase the awareness and effectiveness of perrmaculture solutions, in our local communities or bioregions.
I would like to start with the name and content of this Meetup group as an example, if you will, of a template for other permaculture Meetup groups and communities to follow, if they choose to do so. Since Meetup.com is a key component in the formation of a global network of permaculture related internet and social media based tools, your input and contributions here will very likely have a global impact.
If you know of anyone who is on currently on Meetup or would consider opening a Meetup account, please, please invite them to join this Meetup and become a part of this design process. The more members we have, especially members which bring diverse viewpoints and experiences, the better off we will be. Permaculture by nature, is about polyculture, whether in the garden or in the organization of human activities. Gardeners, builders, computer or internet specialists, web designers, teachers and educators, students, dancers, musicians, health care practitioners, members of various churches or religious organizations, no matter who they are, financial experts, bankers, timebank members, accountants, bookkeepers, politicians, policy makers, consultants.....and others are welcome and encouraged to join and participate in the process, no matter where they live on this planet.
Remember, this Meetup is a global template, and thus has no specific geographical location. The only reason that the current location is listed as St Petersburg is due to the fact that I could not find a zip code 00000 for planet earth. Maybe someone can contact Meetup.com and have them fix that. We already have members from California, Texas, Tennessee and Massachusetts, as well as from other parts of Florida, so please help us make this Meetup grow, without self imposed limitations. Who will be the first member to bring in someone from another country? That's what I'm talking about! I will even give three timebank hours to whomever can accomplish this first!
So let me give you some hints on how to increase our network and membership. If you look to the left side of this Meetup's home page, under "We're about", you will see a list of key words. These keywords are currently limited to forty, I think. One of the neat things about permaculture is that, by its comprehensive nature, it has lots and lots of keywords available that can find a place somewhere in the carbon cluster or the permaculture flower. Click on any keyword or keywords that interest you, and a list of other local Meetup groups that use that keyword will come up.
Join those Meetups and spread the word. It's that simple. Also, tell your friends on Facebook about us, and enroll them in our mission. There is no reason why our membership can't reach 4 or 5 hundred members in the next few months. This is not about the numbers, it is however, first and foremost, about having a quality membership. Having an understanding about permaculture is great of course, but not a requirement. We can work on that later.
Also, since we are interested in promoting any and all permaculture related courses or workshops, please feel free to add your events to our event calendar. Contact any of the Co-organizers, Assistant organizers or event organizers to get your event on the calendar. If you have a lot of events you would like to promote, please let us know and we can make you an event organizer and train you on how to use the calendar tool.
Any questions or suggestions so far?
Part IV coming next.
 




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