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Re: [naturalbuilding-41] The Permaculture Guild-A Strategic Plan-Part V

From: Ken B.
Sent on: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 12:21 PM
No Bob, I have not looked into the Union model but am very interested. Are you interested in becoming a co-organizer for this group and start posting files and links in the appropriate locations on this Meetup?



On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 11:44 AM, Robert Lawrason <[address removed]> wrote:
Thanks for the clarification Ken. I like the idea you are working out organizational structures. Have you looked at the Union model for guilds? i.e. A guild for each petal of the flower with Communication, Administration and Production the coordinating elements for them.
 
Bob
 
In a message dated 12/17/2013 7:27:14 A.M. Central Standard Time, [address removed] writes:
Wow! What a hot potato this became for me. I realized after I sent out a public letter of apology to both Loretta and Nancy that I had missed part of my own message and left some key clarifications out of part V of the strategic plan being discussed on this thread.

For those who have actually been crazy enough to read all of my emails these past two weeks, you might remember an email with the subject header "What the Heck is The (Fill in the Blank) Permaculture Guild?"  sent on December 6th in which I stated the following:

"The next step will be to start the process of self-organizing these various guilds which make up the totality of this organization. What petal or petals of the flower gets your juices flowing? I know several people in this group pretty well, I know where I'd like to place them in the flower, but I'm not going to do that, it is for each of you to make those choices for yourself, or not.


So to make my true intentions more clearly understood, when I put Loretta and Nancy in the administrative team as described, this is where, more specifically, I would like to see them function in The Permaculture Guild Strategic Plan, as members of a core team. 

We could perhaps more accurately call it "The Business Administration Permaculture Guild" of the Administrative component of the three key components which I described as being essential to any business or organization. The other two guilds could be "'The Communications Guild" and the "Product Development and Delivery Guild" thus three mini guilds comprising an organizational triad-Administration, Communications and Product

So, to summarize, since both Loretta and Nancy have both declined the opportunity to fill these positions, I am looking for two more individuals who might be open to playing this game. The problem with being an exceptional individual, is that there is a severe shortage of them, and the few that are out there are in high demand. Bummer.

Finally, from here on out, when you see me place a specific person's name in a position within this organization, please considerate it a nomination, suggestion, example or request, that they, or someone like them, fill these positions. I think it's pretty obvious at this point, that I neither want to, nor can possibly make anyone, do anything.

Ken



On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 1:19 PM, Robert Lawrason <[address removed]> wrote:
Interesting points of view and validity of both points. Kens viewpoint seems (set me straight if I am wrong) to be addressing what it is that he wants to create with his own strategy and there is nothing I see wrong with that. On the other hand if he is trying to formulate a guild that represents Permaculture Designers then the consensus from others that it represents should be represented as Koreen points out. I haven't read the earlier emails (parts 1-3) where a clarification may already exist. I do feel personally that if there were a group to represent me those individuals would have already demonstrated successful application of design, education etc. and would have at least as much experience as I do in a particular area.
 
Being experienced and familiar with back ends or databases interfaced with web sites the purpose of these should facilitate the group and be available at the front end without having passwords etc. Real pros would need to be designing and creating the database in the back end and interface with the front end of the web site for the guild members. The design would of course be based on the client interview which would be those individuals who would want to be part of the guild. This brings up the sequence of design with the first principle being observe and integrate. Observe what designers need and want through actual survey and integrate it into the design.
 
Bob Lawrason
 
In a message dated 12/16/2013 9:18:42 A.M. Central Standard Time, [address removed] writes:
For the record, there is an ongoing process occurring amongst some of the permies in Florida regarding guild or association formation. This is being done as a group process and all decisions about such formation will be transparent and available for comment, input and co-creation to the larger community. Nothing will be unilaterally decided upon by any one individual. The Permaculture Guild is a personal vision by Ken Benway and there is no agreement from the larger body that the model or organization he has created on his own will represent us.  

A professional guild must represent the interests of all professionals and of the movement itself and I feel that it is important, from a permaculture standpoint, to open the process of formation to those who will be affected by that organization. This will include process of deciding who runs it, what its activities and purposes are, finance, etc. This process can take time, but like an old growth forest fed by a great fungal and microbial system, it is more stable and productive ultimately. 

Social permaculture uses various group processes to make decisions which have been proven over time, based on inclusiveness, mutual respect, data gathering, etc. Several members in our group have many years of experience in social permaculture, community building group dynamics and process and we welcome any others who would like to contribute as well. We are striving to use those tools to create an association that will serve everybody and will help permaculture overall to expand in Florida. 
 
Koreen Brennan



On Sunday, December 15,[masked]:21 PM, Ken Benway <[address removed]> wrote:
So while I'm awaiting some feedback on Part IV of the process of our strategic plan, we shall move forward with some discussion on organizing invisible structures in a manner which they are both resilient and regenerative. In permaculture this is what we call "Planning for Disaster", or put another way, not putting all of our eggs in one basket.
So let's imagine that we have a stool. Now imagine that we have a stool with only one leg, kind of like a unicycle having only one tire. How stable is a one legged stool? How stable is a unicycle?
Now let's imagine that we have a two legged stool, kind of like a bicycle with two tires. How stable is a two legged stool? How stable is a bicycle?
Now let's imagine that we have a three legged stool, kind of like a tricycle with three tires. How stable is a three legged stool? How stable is a tricycle?
Now let's imagine that we have a four legged stool, kind of like a quadracycle with four tires. How stable is  a four legged stool? How stable is a quadracycle?
Now let's imagine we have website, which we actually do by the way. For security reasons we want to limit access to the back office of this website. The back office of this website must be password protected for security reasons. How many individuals do you think should have access to this user name and password, at a minimum, to insure that the website is as resilient as possible?
If you guessed three, you are correct.
Now let's look at those basic functions of an organization which need this kind of depth for maximum  resiliency and also be regenerative to some degree.
From my perspective all business models or organizations have at least three basic elements.
1. Administration
2. Communications
3. Product or Products that there are a need for.
If we need someone to head each of these three basic elements of a business or organization, how many individuals would we optimally need to cover all three elements?
If you guessed nine, you are correct.
So for now the three individuals that make up the administrative team are myself, Loretta Buckner and Nancy Mariposa. These positions have been filled because we can't afford to have all of our eggs in one basket.  Not ever. The risk is just too high. Even having all of our eggs in two baskets, even though it's less risky, is still not acceptable in terms of organizational stability.
Four individuals per organizational element is obviously better than three, and so on. Having that fourth individual starts getting us into the realm of being regenerative, as the fourth person, fully trained could go off and start the "seeding process" for a new organization, without jeopardizing the existing organization to any significant degree.
So with respect to the communications team. We currently have one person. That would be me. Not good. We need three volunteers to fill the three positions on this team. Anyone interested? Anyone at all?
So with respect to the Production or Product team. Our product is permaculture design services, education and consultation. Currently we have one person on this team. That would be me. Not good. We need three volunteers to fill the three positions on this team. Anyone interested? anyone at all?
I eagerly await your reply. By the way, although for obvious reasons, I would prefer that these applicants be permaculture designers, it is not required however, as I will be more than happy to train those who need training for these positions, especially if we don't have enough qualified designers to fill all six available positions. Remember also, that in order to be regenerative, we actually need a minimum of nine individuals to fill these positions.
The math: 3 organizational elements X 4 positions for each element=12 positions to fill - 3 positions currently filled = 9 positions to fill.
At some point, I will be stepping down as one of the three individuals on the administrative team and this position will need to be filled. As far as I'm concerned, for a variety of reasons, the sooner this happens the better. This position, at this point in the process, must be someone who I can trust completely. I will not let someone get in the drivers seat, who I don't feel is capable of driving the car, if you know what I mean.
Once we find the person to replace me on the administrative team, I will be devoting most of my time to the permaculture design, education and consultation, or product development team.
Any questions, comments, or suggestions are welcomed and encouraged.
 




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