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Paleo Diet

A former member
Post #: 11
Here's a list of FREE Paleo ebooks on Amazon right now!

Beginner's Guide to the Paleo Diet: http://amzn.to/182OrO...­

Paleo Snacks for Kids: http://amzn.to/1fNKa0...­

Strictly Paleo (meal plan and 28 recipes): http://amzn.to/15Kg4w...­

Yummy Paleo Breakfast Recipes: http://amzn.to/18NtyS...­
A former member
Post #: 13
Good info and an article that I will read more thoroughly. I am not involved in a Cross Fit or even a regular exercise program as I was in Houston. This makes all the difference, particularly with me in this stage of life. My metabolism needs a boost!

http://balancedbites....­
LisaBE
got2boys2girls
Waterville, OH
Post #: 9,160
Thanks for the links. I tried to embrace the paleo diet, but found it was too strict for me, as I do consume some dairy, and enjoy a little grain and legumes too. But it was a terrific start for me to feel confident regarding our choices to stay away from the "recommended standard food pyramid".

My sister-in-law does crossfit, but she lives in Amherst. I joined a Beachbody challenge and workout at home and that has been working for me.
Bob A.
Bob_Avery
Toledo, OH
Post #: 4
Kris wrote,

I'm wondering why she allows butter, ghee, and heavy cream, but no mention of raw milk & kefir.


Simple. The proteins are problematic and inflammatory -- yes, even raw. Milk is not a natural part of an adult mammal's diet, especially that of another species, so consuming it is bound to cause issues for many people. It's not clear when this practice started, but it would have been well beyond the paleolithic era.
Kris J.
user 6600705
Group Organizer
Williston, OH
Post #: 21
Nonsense. There are people in this world who would not have survived without the milk of their animals. Think Scandinavian people, the Maasai in Africa. We shouldn't confuse the problems caused by modern pasteurized milk and the benefits of high quality raw milk that has been very healing to many people. Yes, people respond differently and some people can't tolerate milk in any form, but that doesn't apply to everyone. This is one problem with trying to eat like we think paleolithic people ate. We can't be sure, and we have evolved considerably since that time. Though I doubt that we will ever evolve to have good health eating modern processed foods. The key is staying away from them.

Kris wrote,

I'm wondering why she allows butter, ghee, and heavy cream, but no mention of raw milk & kefir.


Simple. The proteins are problematic and inflammatory -- yes, even raw. Milk is not a natural part of an adult mammal's diet, especially that of another species, so consuming it is bound to cause issues for many people. It's not clear when this practice started, but it would have been well beyond the paleolithic era.

Bob A.
Bob_Avery
Toledo, OH
Post #: 5
Kris,

First of all, there were no people back then, only hominds. Milking of lactating animals would not have become prevalent until after they were domesticated, some 10,000 to 20,000 years ago. Research has shown arterial streaking in the Masai from their raw milk consumption, and Scandinavians have high rates of heart disease and allergies that can be attributable to their milk consumption. Health guru Paavo Airola of Scandinavian extraction living in the US was a heavy consumer of raw goat milk cheese, and he died of a stroke at age 67. Cow's milk, whether raw or pasteurized, is also a promoter of breast, cervical, and prostate cancers due to its IGF-I content. Linda McCartney, a vegetarian who relied heavily on cheese and soy products, died of breast cancer. More information than one can shake a stick at can be found at www.notmilk.com. While certain genetic adaptations have occurred, such as adult production of lactase among Scandinavian groups, 20,000 years is nowhere near sufficient time for complete genetic adaptation to occur, which is why milk continues to be problematic, even among Scandinavians, let alone other groups and races. Blacks have almost no tolerance for dairy products.
Kris J.
user 6600705
Group Organizer
Williston, OH
Post #: 22
Please be aware that the writer above is a very scrawny raw foodist. I generally don't pay much attention to him. Both my parents of Scand. heritage died peacefully at the age of 100. It's quite possible to prove most anything with science, since so much of it is biased.
A former member
Post #: 14
I say choose the nutritional plan that works best for your lifestyle, and tweak it to suit your health needs/goals. You are here in this group because your nutrition and healthy lifestyle are a priority. Food should be enjoyed and that is what I have embraced...even with my dairy intolerance I have found very satisfactory substitutions. How do French crepes (with coconut flour) with rich, creamy coconut filling topped with berries sound? Yep...I thought so LOL
Kris J.
user 6600705
Group Organizer
Williston, OH
Post #: 23
Thank you Michelle. You are so right. Choose what works for you and your health. Unfortunately sometimes it can be painful to discover that what you thought was working is not working. My co-leader can tell you about that.
Bob A.
Bob_Avery
Toledo, OH
Post #: 6
Here's what a scrawny raw fooder looks like who works out with weights:
http://thegardendiet....­
This is the way to gain healthy weight -- if weight gain is your goal. Most people struggle to maintain or lose weight because they are continually eating biologically inappropriate foods.
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