RE: [chinese-332] How to say redneck in Mandarin Chinese

From: Eric
Sent on: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 11:48 AM

From Sue: " Usually grandma has the final say in major decisions in the family"

 

It was the same in my family. What grandma said was the law! :-D

 

Eric

 

From: [address removed] [mailto:[address removed]] On Behalf Of Sue G.
Sent: Tuesday, October 26,[masked]:13 AM
To: [address removed]
Subject: Re: [chinese-332] How to say redneck in Mandarin Chinese

 

Based on the definition of redneck in Eric's article, there is no equivalent term in Chinese, or in any other language. Redneck has unique characters specifically rooted in the south of US.

 

Chinese has terms for people live in rural area, such as "Xiang Xia Ren", "Xiang Xia Lao", or "Xiang Ba Lao". The first term is more neutral, the second and the third are more discriminative, not recommend use in public, or anywhere at all. Most of the words ending with "Lao" are discriminative.

 

Here are few interesting facts about "Xiang Xia Ren" in China

 

Like to have lots of kids, preferably boys, the first born usually share parental duty, regardless gender

Very honest and hardworking people

If one family's child goes to university, he/she will become the village's pride

Don't take much to make them happy, a famous saying describes the dream of farmer: two acres of land, one cow, a wife, a child and a warm bed. That's what they call heavenly life.

Traditional local custom that pass through generations receives the ultimate respect, not current laws

Usually grandma has the final say in major decisions in the family

Extreme low divorce rate, a famous old saying goes: marry a chicken stick with chicken, marry a dog stick with a dog, if marry a stone, carry the stone with you all time

 

The list can go on and on...

 

Cheers

Sue


 

On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 9:19 AM, Michelle zou <[address removed]> wrote:

I am a Chinese girl, I have always told people that I am a Redneck in China. it's funy word depends how and where you use it, not bad at all...

 

Have a nice day to every body

 

Minxu



 

On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 8:24 AM, Ima Neet <[address removed]> wrote:

I agree with Eric, i'm not Chinese nor an American but sometimes the word "Red Neck" is used for stereo typing southerners (most).

from what i know and learned, "red neck" is what it literally means, red - neck, because farmers back then (and now) have been staying in farms longer, working on their farms and  we all know, caucasians have white complexion and and they easily  get sun burn that's why they have "red necks" because the neck is mostly exposed to the sun.

i think the term "red neck" became a derogatory word when they used it on movies or tv to portray southerners like erics example, in "dukes of hazzard". also most red necks have those "rebel flags", i think it's for "southern pride". i not sure if you know american history, specifically the civil war, the "south" lost to the "north" so to keep their pride, they still use those flag (just my opinion).

also red necks and hill billy are not the same. and again, it's stereo typical to say their bathroom is in the woods or bushes, i believe they have outhouses or outdoor toilets which was long long long time ago before indoor plumbing was invented.i think that's a joke by Jeff Foxworthy -  "you might be a red neck if..." jokes Error! Filename not specified.

and they don't have goofy dialect, it's called "southern accent" or "southern twang" i can compare their accent to the "irish and scotish accent", they speak english but because of their accent or sometime speed talking, sometimes it's hard to understand.

i guess there's no way to translate red neck in chinese since like other here say,the word is only particular here in the US. and if you want to translate it, maybe use the literal word "red neck", red and neck or maybe the other suggested definitions.

i hope you don't have bad intentions of asking for the meaning of redneck in chinese.



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From: Eric <[address removed]>
Subject: RE: [chinese-332] How to say redneck in Mandarin Chinese


To: [address removed]

Date: Monday, October 25, 2010, 7:37 PM

For the enjoyment of all ... and maybe a little education thrown in.

 

From a 'good old Kansas redneck'.

 

Eric

 

What is a Redneck?

 

Being a redneck is being proud of your roots and a true love for your father’s name. Where family and friends are first and strangers are just a vague, dismal blur in the distance. Rednecks are good ol' boys/gals who usually live in the south (usually in the country) and also tend to have a southern accent. Their necks are red and maybe their arms, too, cause they work hard and out in the heat all day.The group that is ridiculed by most, but deep down envied by all. Some types of rednecks may be cowboys/girls, mountain men/women, country boys/gals, and or hillbillys.

 

· Big truck tires, huntin’, fishin’, tractor pulls, country music, Charlie Daniels, and rebel flags are just a few words that might describe a redneck. They usually drive pickup trucks with loud sounds that can usually be heard before seen, and they also tend to blare country music from their radios. They usually add a CB radio to their truck and may have a gun rack in the back and an ol' rebel flag flyin from the antennae or posted on their front or back winshield. It is hard to figure these people out. Most people just can’t understand how you can have such a weird lifestyle of cowboy hats and buckles.

 

· Many Rednecks love the ol' T.V. show called "Dukes of Hazzard" and western shows. They are very laid back and tend to piss people off when they drive too slow or too fast down the road in their ol' pickup trucks.

 

· They love women/men (preferrably Cowgirls/boys), country music, wearin' jeans, wearin' boots (may be leather), wearin' a cowboy hat, yellin' yyyyyeeeehhhhhaaaaaawwwwww! out loud, shootin' the bull (talkin and telling some stories), fishin', huntin' watching wrestlin', watchin' or goin' to NASCAR races, watchin' baseball, or watchin' football.

 

· Rednecks may also like the rodeo. They love ridin’ horses or bulls, or ropin’ calves. Most Rednecks can usually be found at or off your local gravel road, in Texas, Tennessee, Mississippi, Arkansas, Oklahoma, Arizona, Georgia, Alabama, South Carolina, and maybe even in other southern states. They will be found on or near your local farm, at a bar (playin pool), local rodeo event and or stock show. The Redneck diet may include t-bone, tender loin, beef, beef stew, cajun food, Burger King, pizza, and maybe some good ol’ peach cobbler fer desert.

 

Things that make a redneck mad: somebody stealin’ his healthy horse, making a promise which you can’t keep, cuttin’ down rodeo evernts, and much more.

 

· Things that really piss a redneck off is: stealin’ his cowgirl, a male hitting a female, a male cheating on a female, child abuse, abortions (child killers), beatin’ up his haas(word which means buddy), messin with his family, and much more. I tell ya, most rednecks like to fight for their woman and/or to defend their own honor. And i guarantee you if a true redneck sees you do one of the things in this list that redneck will whoop your @ $ $ right then and there

 

· Rednecks know how to treat women. Rednecks know how to respect, love, and care about females. True Rednecks love females for who they are and would never cheat on them. A True redneck would never hit or injur a female. White trash lies to females, cheat on them, beat them, get them pregnant and then leave them (A redneck believes a white trash person like this should be hung by their "YOU KNOW WHAT")

 

· How can your friends be more important than yourself? This might be a question from a typical non-redneck. Where the outdoors are loved and where blue-collar labor is not looked down on but a way of life. Where hard hats are worn instead of pocket protectors. Where steel toe boots are worn instead of nice loafers. Where blue jeans and a flannel are preferred to a nice coat and tie. Rednecks are the people that make the world go round!

 

 

· What a Redneck Isn't

 

· I have already explained What a redneck is, now I feel it necessary to explain what a redneck isn't. Most folk out there, sittin on their high and mighty social horse feel that they can group folks they see as uncultured or undesireable as rednecks. This shows their lack of knowledge and ignorance.

 

For example, these people interchange characteristics of white trash and rednecks. I will admit that it might be possible for a redenck to be also white trash, but this is not to be taken for granted. And some characteristics are no longer apply or might have never applied. I will attempt to rectify this.

 

· 1. White trash, or more correctly, trailer-trash live in trailers...not rednecks. We more commonly inhabit run-down, partially constructed homes or log cabins.

 

· 2. Rednecks are not lazy, incompitent, laggards. Those incorrectly grouped with us that do fit this descriptions are more commonly called "welfare-trash". It must be noted that being on welfare does not automatically make one trash, merely down and out and nothing to be ashamed of. Rednecks and white-trash are the ones that built this country(and that aint figurative).

 

· 3. The inbred stereo-type is old and over used and can no longer be considered humorous or accurate. Those that use this description have confused us with "European Blue-Bloods"(now there's some trees that never branched! They didn't call each other cousin for the hell of it!!!)

 

· 4. Rednecks are not stupid. In the bountiful ignorance of most cityfolk, they have confused ignorance with stupidity and proven my point themselves. There are old rednecks in these hills that never went past the second grade that have more knowledge in the head than most of those acedimic boobs that profess to be "educated". Once had some of these fellers poken fun at me for miss using an economic term, but when I asked them a question, damned if any one of 'em knew how much hardener to add to a golf ball sized helpin of body putty!! Guess they must'a just been stupid??

 

 

 

From: [address removed] [mailto:[address removed]] On Behalf Of Michelle zou
Sent: Monday, October 25,[masked]:26 PM


To: [address removed]
Subject: Re: [chinese-332] How to say redneck in Mandarin Chinese

 

Interesting, I am a Chinese in RTP but haven't attend Chinese meetup yet.



Hibachi is a traditional Japanese heating device. this word ( Hibachi=??, English called fire bowl)  is Japanese, but originated in China as a type of portable charcoal brazier used to heat the homes of the nobility, Now still use in some place in south China....like traditional  Xiang1 xia4 lao3. my grandmother had one when I was a kid.


Minxu
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On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 6:35 PM, Rash <[address removed]> wrote:

Isn't redneck kind of a cultural phenomenon specific to the USA? Maybe there is a word used in Chinese movie translations of American movies that gives the same general idea or feeling in Chinese?  Also probably depends on your cultural connection to redneck.  Do you mean blue collar worker or hillbilly?

My dictionary came up with Xiang1 xia4 lao3.

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2010/10/25 Ling, Li <[address removed]>

 

Hi,

Interesting.  I am Chinese. I did not know the word "redneck" before I got the states.

 To my best knowledge,
1. Chinese definition:
    it's  xiang (1) xia (4) ren (2)?????people live in rural places?
2. Characteristics:
    Simple, generally kind to people and hospitable, unnecessarily too nice to foreigner, not sophisticated, especially for those never been to Cities.
 lacking of knowledge about the current world as much as Townspeople do, from "superficial" things like good taste of clothing, food, places for having fun.., to sophisticated stuff like arts, politics, movie, stocks, why wars started, globalisation..

 These are changing.
3. Townspeople,
   ???, Cheng (2) li (3) ren (2), people have more advantages than xiang xia ren. Almost all of them could track family tree back to rural people.

Are you planning to be able to identify some Chinese redneck here or in China?

BTW, correct me if I say, in usa the trend is others think redneck is a joke, redneck think back they are joke.  In China, townspeople think rural people is a joke, and rural say nothing but just work hard to be townspeople.

 

On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 4:11 PM, Thomas - The Danish Dynamo <[address removed]> wrote:

Ni Hao,

A few questions for the group:

How do you say redneck in Mandarin Chinese?
What are some of the characteristics of a Chinese redneck?
What is the opposite of a redneck (in Chinese)?

Also remember to try the new Hibatchi Chinese Restaurant in Cary (close to 35) on the corner of Kildare Farm Road and Cary Parkway. Bonus question: is Hibatchi a Chinese word?

Xie xie,
Thomas Nielsen






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