Tucson Atheists Message Board › Religion and the Constitution - Meeting synopsis
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There is nothing legislatively within US Law that mandates the US as a Christian Nation. Demographics have shown Christianity but nothing legislatively. In fact, our forefathers were very apt at avoiding the subject of creating a constitution that allows membership into this fine country without having to make a choice about religion at all. Our discussion last night brought up the subject of the nation's formation due to taxes and not religion. Many people came here for freedom of religion but the government was yet formed. There were religious colonies of varying faiths that through time became sovereign states - who incidentally where building up debt to each other which was divisional - much like the politics we see being played out in our Nation today. Also, much of that original need for sovereignty was based upon wanting to retain their own separate religious beliefs than assume those of the greater Nation. Soooo.... Alexander Hamilton, with the blessing of a couple of founding Fathers decided to break the division by creating a national purpose. There was legislation drawn up that all the states would be exonerated from their debt if they gave up their sovereignty and become one Nation - not under God - just one Nation. In turn he established a banking system (not yet the Federal Reserve that came along in the 1930's founded by a bunch of PRIVATE bankers who now sell money at a fee to our government) that assumed all debt for the New Nation. He was afraid that the vision of a new nation was slipping away because of the infighting and a loyalty to each of the separate states. So, depending on how you look at it, he was absolutely the "henchman" that created a Nation and simultaneously created a mutual purpose that we all commonly refer to today as - THE NATIONAL DEBT. So, the nation was not built because of an imposed God, but because of debt - yep folks - money, money, uh huh, money.
PBS showed an excellent 1-hr. video in their American Experience series on the life of Alexander Hamilton which may be accessed at:
Hope you find time to watch it.
On a side note: I agree with Don, that due to all of our different attitudes and experiences we are many subcultures within one culture called Atheists that seem to only agree upon Separation of Church and State. So did the original forefathers. They realized that you could not change people's beliefs but you will separate them if you do not give them a common purpose when such devisiveness exists. May they rest in peace. Some us, heathens and all, still really love this Country and wish Her well.
Edited by User 409,104 on Jun 22, 2010 8:28 AM