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Re: [The-Vancouver-UFO-Meetup-Group] I asked astronaut Dr. John Grunsfeld about UFOs

From: rolf
Sent on: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 2:58 PM
Hi Brian and all,
it was in August of 1954 that I saw my first UFO, or UFOs, five lights flying in formation across the cloudless evening sky from east to west, along the Rhein, then
abruptly turning right without slowing down, after flying north for a short distance they made again an abrupt turn right and went east for a short 
distance, then the lights were turned off but came back on after flying some distance to the east. to where they came from.
Only recently did I understand what they were trying to show us, namely, That THEY CAN FLY WITHOUT BEING SEEN!
I was with a bunch of other teenagers, and we all saw this phenomenon, many hundreds of other people saw them also, according to the newspaper report the 
next day.
So, just because one can not see them, does not mean they are not there, or here.

On[masked], at 10:11 PM, Brian Ruhe wrote:

Hi UFO meetup members!

The astronaut Dr. John Grunsfeld gave a great talk with slides and videos about the Hubble telescope at UBC Saturday night. See the link:

During Q & A I asked him in front of 500 people, "I've seen videos on the Internet taken from the space shuttle of UFOs near and around the shuttle. I want to ask you if those videos are real and have you been briefed about UFOs and have you been asked not to talk about them with the public." He replied with his eyes down and to the sides. He never looked at me, in the seventh row. He said that ice crystals float outside the shuttle and at a distance they can look like they are blinking. Also paint and pieces of tile float around in space. He said he has never seen anything unusual that was intelligently controlled. Note that he didn't answer my questions about been briefed about UFOs and not to talking to the public about them. I felt that he was withholding the truth but he was at least as honest as he could be. There was also some tension or stress in his voice so I think he was holding back.

Next, our next meetup talk is this:

Freemasonry and the New World Order with Lance Owen

Selected By: Brian Ruhe

Jesse's Co-op, 1465 Lamey's Mill Road

buzz 57 - for 5th floor lounge, Tel:[masked], Vancouver (edit map)

Selected By: Brian Ruhe

Price: CAD5.00/per person

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Lance Owen will give a one hour presentation on Freemasonry and the New World Order with the background on the Masons and what they've been up to. He has published an article on the Masons which is linked here and the first part is below. I have known Lance for over ten years and I will introduce Lance as my 'conspiracy advisor' as he has opened many avenues of thought for me. Lance works as a science teacher and he is very well read. Here's his article:  



Freemasonry and the New World Order

By Lance Owen     Jan/2012

 Freemasonry 101

Brian Ruhe author of | A Short Walk On An Ancient Path 
Ph. [masked]     | and Freeing the Buddha     | [address removed]

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