Re: [DenverAndBeyondVeganMeetup] Garbonzo's and whey in their pita

From: Ann S.
Sent on: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 12:22 PM
I'm very happy that gluten free people can find gluten free options, but it often trumps healthy vegan options, which would be much more appealing to nonvegans, and that would benefit more animals, plus it would be healthier for the nonvegans, over eating chicken's eggs, cow's milk and butter.  Since there are fewer gluten free people, it shouldn't trump vegan.  Veganism has been around since 1945, while the gluten free era started just a few years ago, yet stores have entire isles dedicated to gluten free (not all vegan), while there are no vegan isles.  And vegan items are lucky to have 2 or 3 listings on most restaurant menus, and I do mean lucky.  I'm not opposed to gluten free and I'm glad people have that choice (especially when it's also vegan), but nongluten free vegans should also have vegan options.  People who don't have issues with gluten, miss out on important nutrients and important fiber, when they eat gluten free.  It's very important to not self diagnose, and to be tested by an allergist, not a nutritionist or dietician.  One can be turning their life upside-down, when they don't actually need to.  

Doctor Michale Greger responded about this issue last year at VegFest and he will be there again this year, so the perfect place to talk face to face with someone who spends his life studying human nutrition.

Bisquick has hydrogenated oil, which IS actually poison to everyone, no exceptions.  Our bodies can handle zero of it.  It forever damages our cells.  They do have a version of Bisquick that doesn't have it, the low fat, I thing.  It takes such little effort to put the few ingredients that are in it, together for myself, and it's cheaper to do it myself.  Plus, I can do it organic.

I never ever heard that grinding grains for flour isn't animal friendly.  But I HAVE had several restaurant folks flatly say that they combine vegan and gluten free, because they don't want to bother to have 2 vegan options.  Which is too bad, because all gluten free people can eat vegan/gluten free, so they could combine those instead.  I should be able to get a whole wheat/grain vegan pancake.  

A fact that some people don't know is,the higher the whole grain content, the lower the gluten.  Eating white bread, always makes me feel heavy.  Higher grains, don't.  They digest faster, because of the higher fiber content.

Native foods doesn't serve breakfast. I hope they decide to introduce breakfast.  They have whole wheat buns for their sandwiches, so I'm very glad about that!!  I love Sputnik, but they don't have pancakes.  Maybe I'll drop off a recipe and hope they will start.  They are a pretty small place, though.

Personally, I have an allergy to mold, which can be in some grains because of storage, but not always in all grains.  It isn't life threatening, so I don't avoid grains.  My body can cope, as it does with airborne allergies, which a lot of adults have.  Getting off dairy made my allergies, much much less severe.

They are actually treating peanut allergies with tiny doses of peanut powder, these days.

With all the allergies adults are having these days, it's amazing that most of us survived childhood!  :-}

On another note, VegFest is 10 days away!!  Yeah!!!!

Ann

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On Jun 27, 2012, at 11:39 AM, Mari Ruddy <[address removed]> wrote:

As someone who has been vegan for 2 years (a decision by choice) and then finding out about 2 months ago that I have a severe gluten allergy (was cause of tremendous gastointestinal distress for a while) and as someone who has lived (successfully) with type 1 diabetes and has survived cancer twice, I think its awesome that there are vegan, gluten-free options. Just felt its important to voice that. As before I had to go gluten-free I was also a complainer about the gluten-free/vegan combo. Now, I am deeply grateful and exponentially more compassionate about all the food restrictions people grapple with when dining out.

I just put on an athletic training camp in Boulder last week for adult people w diabetes (type 1 and 2) who want to be endurance athletes. We had a total of 9 vegans, 3 were vegan/gluten free, and another 2 just gluten free. And a few other nut, corn and soy allergies.+ne camper was vegan and allergic to nightshades. Plus one raw vegan. We had 18 campers and 10 staff and the Millennium Hotel food service did and amazing job accommodating ALL of our complex food needs.

For me, as camp director, I got to practice compassion and understanding for the role food plays in our lives.

Mari
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Subject: Re: [DenverAndBeyondVeganMeetup] Garbonzo's and whey in their pita

Ann I second you on the gluten free vegan thing drives me nuts! Can't a vegan get a pancake with gluten in this city? Watercourse seriously disappoints me on this one, I think we need to petition for a vegan pancake with extra gluten please!

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On Jun 26, 2012, at 4:08 PM, Ann S <[address removed]> wrote:

I agree, Jim, as long as they don't have gluten free vegan be the only vegan option.  I hate when places do that.  I don't have to be, need to be or want to be gluten free, so when they combine the 2, it doesn't give vegans like me, an option I want.  WaterCourse has egg pancakes and gluten free/vegan pancakes, which I don't like at all, so there is no pancake option for people like me.  The only veg breakfast place in town and I can't have a pancake.  Lots of places do that and it's too bad.  There are so many great vegan options, that restaurants won't bother to carry, because it's a bother to have both.  What is 1 more option, especially since most vegans aren't gluten free?  I don't get it.  Goodness forbid they have 2 vegan options!  Go figure!

Thank you for writing/calling, Squeaky Vegans!!

Ann

 VEGFEST COLORADO 2012
7 & 8 July 2012! See you there!

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Think of me tonight, for that which you savor. 
Did it give you something real, or could you taste the pain of my death in its flavor?
    ~Wayne K. Tolson "Food Forethought"

~ Animals have their own voices, but few listen.  
   Those of us who hear them, must help them to be heard. ~

"Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter" Martin Luther King, Jr.

"Take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented." –Elie Wiesel

 
Get involved!  The World is run by people who show up.  ~Unknown

On Jun 26, 2012, at 11:40 AM, Jim Glasser <[address removed]> wrote:

Ann,
I love Garbanzos...thanks for the heads up on their sneaking a little dairy into their pita!  I will write them too.  Plus, since they cater to the gluten free among us, they NEED to add a gluten free pita to their line up.  Lots of great fast Vegan options @: Tokyo Joes, Chipolte, Noodles & Co, Wahoo Fish Taco, Qudoba, Z pizza.
Thanks,
Jim

On Jun 26,[masked]:30 AM, "Carol Giambri" <[address removed]> wrote:
Always great getting fast results with nice notes on company facebook wall.  Works well.  Surely Garbanzo's Mediterranean Grill has fb wall for whey and more disclosure.


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Subject: RE: [DenverAndBeyondVeganMeetup] Garbonzo's and whey in their pita

Yep, disappointing.  The are great at marking what is vegan on their labels as you move through the line, but there is no sign for the pitas at the beginning.  It is clear from their nutritional pamphlet/pdf that the pitas (white or wheat) are not vegan.  I just happened to notice this several months ago (




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