Re: [DenverAndBeyondVeganMeetup] [address removed] has shared: Philip Wollen, Australian Philanthropist, Former VP of Citibank, Makes Blazing Animal Rights Speech

From: Kellie
Sent on: Sunday, July 1, 2012 10:15 AM
there is a very good book on how to do vegan outreach effectively.. it is called the animal activist's handbook.  doing vegan outreach does not have to mean preaching and making people feel guilty. you can still educate and encourage and promote compassion without making people feel bad.  its not like there is only one way to do outreach and that we're all super mean and judgmental and better-than-thou.   i have done a lot of good vegan outreach that i feel has been effective, especially food outreach mixed with education, such as puttin on the leash and other humane society events, warped tour leafleting, etc.  its fun, its friendly, people take literature and enjoy food, its not a high strung environment...and i have met people who have gone vegan from this outreach.  so yeah, i think its good to at least do something and not pigeon hole the approach of vegan activists. and hey, if the compassion argument doesnt get people at first, then mention information about health or the environment.  sometimes people go vegan for one reason and stay for another. i think the most important thing is that we're out there doing something at all.


So shines a good deed in a weary world.


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From: Dan Price <[address removed]>
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Subject: Re: [DenverAndBeyondVeganMeetup] [address removed] has shared: Philip Wollen, Australian Philanthropist, Former VP of Citibank, Makes Blazing Animal Rights Speech

This speaks to me, but I fear it does not speak to the meat eating crowd.
 
Meat eaters are addicts with a chemical dependency. Much like many other things in the Standard American Diet (SAD) there are real food addictions. These addictions have been confirmed through hard science not some phsycho babble.
 
When trying to change an addicts behavior a different approach must be used. An addict cares little about the suffering others go through to feed his addictions. I believe those that are addicted to meats hear the compassionate plea and immediately dismiss the speaker as a nut. Not that there are not other parts of his message that are arguments which addicts could listen to.
 
What I see in much of the educational approaches is this lack of understanding how to present a convincing argument. Much like preaching to the choir.
 
What I believe is that the compassionate movement is creating conditions where meat eaters shut out the message even before it is delivered. Compassion I believe has to come after the food addiction is broken for most people. So another argument has to be put forth. He hit on some very good arguments for eating zero meat.
 

From: Janice A. Jones <[address removed]>
To: [address removed]
Sent: Saturday, June 30,[masked]:25 PM
Subject: [DenverAndBeyondVeganMeetup] [address removed] has shared: Philip Wollen, Australian Philanthropist, Former VP of Citibank, Makes Blazing Animal Rights Speech

Philip Wollen, Australian Philanthropist, Former VP of Citibank, Makes Blazing Animal Rights Speech
Wollen is a former VP of Citibank and Australian philanthropist who is known to keep out of the limelight. But, man, did he come to the table for this debate to deliver a huge performance and a powerful message packed in just 10-minutes. Bravo!
 
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