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Short Fiction Subgroup

  • Oct 15, 2014 · 7:00 PM
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New Rule Summary

Here is a general announcement of the new rule for larger work and some explanation of why.

You can bring excerpts of larger works as well here. It doesn't have to be a short story.

Length is: up to 10 pages 12 point, Times Roman, double-spaced. If you feel an introduction is needed to help readers understand what happened before the excerpt then include it. But it counts towards the the page limit.

Why a limit:

The general idea of the group is that you get critiques by giving critiques. People attending the meeting are expected to have read all work  that a) fits the length limit  b) was submitted one week before the meeting. For this meeting that would be midnight October 8th. You are also expected to have constructive comments.

That's why we have a length limit. We want to keep the amount of reading reasonable.

If you want to post an entire work you can do that. But please label it is as over the length limit. People are not obligated to read it.

If you don't meet the date and have something: post it anyway. Bring printed copies to the meeting. It may get read anyway.

People are allowed but not obligated to comment on late/over length material. 

If you don't have anything to post come anyway. The only requirements are a)that you have read any length limit compliant work that was posted by Oct. 8th  midnight deadline and b) to have constructive comments. Ideally we want this to be a group for people that are writing so posting is strongly encouraged. But only the reading and critiquing is required.

During the meeting the priorities are:

1) Critiques of material posted by October 8th midnight, which meets the length limit.

2) Critiques of material posted later that meets the limit.

3) Comments on over length material if there are any.

4) Exercises.

If you have any questions send Tom Wiskin a message.

End of New Rule Summary.


I've been a leader for an artist's support group as well as an organizer and member of other writer's groups. I believe in being a sensitive and supportive reader, wanting the story to be the winner. I am currently a grad student in Creative Writing at UBC, taking the summer off and wanting to create a core of dedicated writer/readers here in Victoria.

New requirements for this group:

— please be on time;

— you must be currently writing fiction and have at least one piece to share that you want feedback on;

— you must bring 8-10 copies of a short story, maximum of 10 pages, one page minimum, for us to read and critique, or, preferably, post here under files and then notify the group that it's here;

— format is 12 point, Times Roman, double-spaced — this evens up the playing field in terms of length, also readability and gives the reader space between lines for comments, corrections, etc.;

— when you come, you can choose to give us your email address and ask us to send our comments to you via email if you don't feel ready for a group critique;

— we will discuss feedback/critique styles. You will be able to ask for what you specifically want feed back on, i.e. a particular character, plot, continuity, dialogue, development, etc. — whatever you are having problems with;

-- If your story is longer than 10 pages, post the section you'd like to be critiqued and bring copies of the rest. Depending on the numbers of writers that show up, and how much time we each have, we may be able to look at more of your story.

— "The only way to begin is to begin, and begin right now. If you like, begin the minute you finish reading this paragraph. For sure, begin before you finish reading this book. I have no doubt the day is coming when you will be wiser or better informed or more highly skilled than you are now, but you will never be more ready to begin writing than you are right this minute. The time has come. You already know, more or less, what a good story looks like. You’ve already got in mind some human situation that matters to you. You need nothing more. Begin with whatever gives you the impetus to begin: an image, a fantasy, a situation, a memory, a motion, a situation, a set of people—anything at all that arouses your imagination. The job is only to get some or all of this into words able to reach and touch an unknown, unseen somebody “out there” known as the Reader. You must plunge into it. And you must do it now." Stephen Koch

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  • Nelson C.

    Hi Tom - it looks like just you and I. I am up for it - is it worth your time? If you want to postpone it i can wait until next time. Your call. If i dont hear from you i will just show up.

    October 15, 2014

  • Nelson C.

    I thought the pieces could be downloaded to be read at another time. I dont like to leave them up for a long time, although I am sure there is nothing wrong with doing so. I will repost the story when I get back home tonight. - sometime before 9 pm

    October 14, 2014

  • Nelson C.

    I am not familiar with the system here so I may be missing some things but it seems I have the only contribution so far. I deleted it not to withdraw, I hope all who wanted it got it. I didn't intend to leave it there indefinitely. Are there other pieces to critique?

    October 13, 2014

  • Pierce

    Hi guys,
    Thanks for all your input. I know it can be a sensitive subject. I really like what you had to say Angela. To me that makes a lot of sense.
    I'm not sure if I want to post right away anyhow. I'm new to this group and I think I should come out to your meetup and see how it goes.
    I see that there are two of you planning on going. Have you both posted stories to be critiqued? If yes, where do I find them?
    Thanks!

    1 · October 9, 2014

    • Pierce

      Ok. I think I got it. So the last thing to be posted was "NaNoWriMo - prepare in 2 weeks" right?

      October 10, 2014

    • Pierce

      Thanks for your help :)

      October 10, 2014

  • Nelson C.

    How do i post my story?

    October 9, 2014

  • Nelson C.

    Just read the rules. It is already too late to contribute something, but what I have is small so I will post anyway? Read it if you have time.

    October 9, 2014

  • Angela M.

    Hi, Tom, and everyone. I thought I'd weigh in on the 'erotica or not' question. This is not the final word, just a thought.
    What if the erotica writer posted his work and people could decide to come or not, based on reading it?
    Since the main criteria is 'short fiction,' and the story is, indeed, short fiction, then I don't see a problem, personally. Most writers, in my experience, are not prudish and since the writer notified everyone that it is erotica, they are forewarned, as they begin to read it, which is thoughtful. Group members/readers will be prepared which is the most important aspect of this: upfront knowledge that erotica has been submitted and will be discussed.
    I believe it could bring out some good discussions, as I think everyone wants to be able to write a good sex scene, when and if they need to.
    Hope this helps,
    Angela

    October 8, 2014

  • Pierce

    Pardon my ignorance but, where exactly do I post a short story?
    Also, are there any subject restrictions? I write erotica.
    Thanks.

    October 7, 2014

  • A former member
    A former member

    Do you always meet on Wednesdays? I would like to attend but work most Wednesday evenings.

    October 6, 2014

  • Angela M.

    Hi, Tom, you may need to ask Peter to make you host again for the month of October. It's showing up with me as the Event Host.
    Angela

    September 17, 2014

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