Short Fiction Subgroup

  • December 17, 2014 · 7:00 PM
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Current Event Host: (Tom Wiskin) Is a Custodian for the founder of the group : Angela McIntyre. (returning in the spring)

Here is some new stuff for this meeting:

Posting/Bringing Work Not Required!

You don't have to post to come out. You don't even need to have written anything. Even if your project is in the planning stage and you have yet to write anything, please come out. You will get a chance to discuss your work.

The only thing we ask is that you have read anything posted by one week before, and that you have some constructive comments.

During the meeting the priorities are:

1) Critiques of material posted by 7 days before midnight, which meets the length limit.

2) We divide the remaining time equally among people who's works have not been reviewed in step 1. This may include:

a)Critiques of material posted late or brought in by hand (people may make a quick read of some of of it on the spot).

b)  Discussion of projects even if nothing written has been brought forward.

c) Whatever else related to writing that comes up is fair game when it's your turn.

Posting Fragments of Larger Works Are OK

You can bring excerpts of larger works as well here. It doesn't have to be a short story.

Length is: up to 10 pages 12 point, Times Roman, double-spaced. If you feel an introduction is needed to help readers understand what happened before the excerpt then include it. But it counts towards the the page limit.

Posting Options:

You can post in the file section. Some people have expressed reservations about making their work publicly available on the internet. I am not unsympathetic. Here are some options.

1) Delete your work after the meeting.

2) Email people you have already met who are going to the meet up. Ask them to review. Please respect their time.

3) Bring printed work to the meeting and distribute it. We may have time for a quick look. Also once you meet people you may want to ask for their emails.

I am open to other suggestions. 

Why a limit:

The general idea of the group is that you get critiques by giving critiques. People attending the meeting are expected to have read all work  that a) fits the length limit  b) was submitted one week before the meeting. You are also expected to have constructive comments.

That's why we have a length limit. We want to keep the amount of reading reasonable.

If you want to post an entire work you can do that. But please label it is as over the length limit. People are not obligated to read it.

If you don't meet the date and have something: post it anyway. Bring printed copies to the meeting. It may get read anyway.

People are allowed but not obligated to comment on late/over length material. 

If you don't have anything to post come anyway. The only requirements are a)that you have read any length limit compliant work that was posted by midnight one week before and b) to have constructive comments. 

If you have any questions send Tom Wiskin a message.

End of Tom Wiskin Stuff

Angela McIntyre's (Founder) blurb.

I've been a leader for an artist's support group as well as an organizer and member of other writer's groups. I believe in being a sensitive and supportive reader, wanting the story to be the winner. I am currently a grad student in Creative Writing at UBC, taking the summer off and wanting to create a core of dedicated writer/readers here in Victoria.

New requirements for this group:

— please be on time;

— you must be currently writing fiction and have at least one piece to share that you want feedback on;

— you must bring 8-10 copies of a short story, maximum of 10 pages, one page minimum, for us to read and critique, or, preferably, post here under files and then notify the group that it's here;

— format is 12 point, Times Roman, double-spaced — this evens up the playing field in terms of length, also readability and gives the reader space between lines for comments, corrections, etc.;

— when you come, you can choose to give us your email address and ask us to send our comments to you via email if you don't feel ready for a group critique;

— we will discuss feedback/critique styles. You will be able to ask for what you specifically want feed back on, i.e. a particular character, plot, continuity, dialogue, development, etc. — whatever you are having problems with;

-- If your story is longer than 10 pages, post the section you'd like to be critiqued and bring copies of the rest. Depending on the numbers of writers that show up, and how much time we each have, we may be able to look at more of your story.

— "The only way to begin is to begin, and begin right now. If you like, begin the minute you finish reading this paragraph. For sure, begin before you finish reading this book. I have no doubt the day is coming when you will be wiser or better informed or more highly skilled than you are now, but you will never be more ready to begin writing than you are right this minute. The time has come. You already know, more or less, what a good story looks like. You’ve already got in mind some human situation that matters to you. You need nothing more. Begin with whatever gives you the impetus to begin: an image, a fantasy, a situation, a memory, a motion, a situation, a set of people—anything at all that arouses your imagination. The job is only to get some or all of this into words able to reach and touch an unknown, unseen somebody “out there” known as the Reader. You must plunge into it. And you must do it now." Stephen Koch

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  • Michael

    Too close to Christmas - kids etc. See you in Jan.

    December 16

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