Re: [9-11-359-list] Occupy Wallstreet: "The Marines are Coming"

From: Illumina
Sent on: Friday, October 7, 2011 3:34 PM
I  hope, if what you say is the case, then there will be those there who recognize the U. S. Constitution as the supreme law of the land and they will stand up for the First Amendment protections, which should apply to all whether in uniform or not.  Which brings up another interesting question.  If the protest is allowed by the First Amendment, (peaceful assembly) which it is, then those in law enforcement that would order their subordinates and others who may be in military uniform to ignore the law and to NOT protect the protesters' (uniformed or not) rights, then WHO is breaking the law and what justifiable excuse do those who follow those orders have?  It didn't work at the Nazi trials and it better not work in this instance, either.

 
On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 10:06 AM, Ed Brotherton <[address removed]> wrote:
Unfortunately these marines are going to get themselves into a bit of trouble if they show up in uniform.  To be in uniform and participate in any type of protest is in violation of the Uniform Code of Military Justice.  More than likely they will be arrested when they get back on base and given Article 16's.   They are allowed to participate as long as they are not in uniform.

Ed


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Subject: Re: [9-11-359-list] Occupy Wallstreet: "The Marines are Coming"
Date: Fri, 7 Oct[masked]:08:43 -0400


I think you may be judging these guys a little harshly and a little prematurely. I read that same blog posting the dude in the vid reffers to, and it's not an entire battalion of marines. It was a dude and 15 of his friends, coming to show solidarity with the protesters. Clearly what these guys are doing is not military sanctioned. 

Yes, I agree that arresting the offending cops is the best course of action. But if you can't do that, the next best thing is having a bunch of, obviously, constitutionaly minded military and veterans there with the protesters, their very presence causing the cops to think twice about violating anyones rights.

As for showing up in full dress uniform, that sends a much clearer message and packs a much bigger visual punch than showing up in plain clothes. It lets Wall Street and the government proper know that their control over the individual members of the military is weakening and that the men and women who swore "to uphold and defend the constitution from all enemies, foreign and domestic" are slowly returning to that station.


On Oct 6, 2011, at 7:25 PM, bernard <[address removed]> wrote:

Occupy Wallstreet:

I wouldn't miss this Revolution for the world and we have to assume neither would the Obama administration!

I found this video and wanted to share.

Listen in: "The Marines are Coming to Protect .."

A plan for rolling out the Military as the "GOOD GUYS"?
How clever would that be to impose MARTIAL LAW by portraying the military "saving" the people from the local police?
Why not just change the philosophy, punish the cops who break the law, implement rehab programs or fire them?
Notice they are being described as "oathkeepers" and they are coming "in uniform".
Many of the police officers are also oathkeepers so isn't that a problem?

How critical is it that WAC and the truth movement has a great relationship with LAPD?
If this is a tactic and not just some kid making a video at home it will be exposed.
In the mean time we have a great opportunity to educate others at Occupy.

I just wanted to share this

Peace,

Bernard




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