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Re: [Westlake912] Rush: GOP Lost Because It Didn't Turn Out Base

From: Dan
Sent on: Friday, November 9, 2012 4:55 PM
These 3 million people were not "Self described Republicans". They were people who actually voted for McCain, but did not vote for Romney. Therefor the comparison to Rush's "Operation Chaos" in the Democratic Primary does not work.
 
 I seriously doubt that Ron Paul's followers made any difference. For one thing, despite how loud and imposing they were, we are still talking about a small number of people. But the main reason that I can't see Ron Paul's people being a factor is the same reason as the first point. We are not talking about a Republican Primary and how people classify themselves, we are talking about how people actually voted in the general election. Ron Paul was a Candidate in the 2008 Election, and had as many followers then. I can't see them all voting in 2008 and then all not voting in 2012.
 
Remember, the central point here is we are talking actual votes, not anything "claimed". Demographics have always been a factor in our Elections. But this "The World is changing and White people are going the way of the Dinosaurs" meme is Democrat Propaganda designed to demoralize us and make us give up the fight, hopeless. And it fits well with the Progressive world view that society is evolving irresistibly toward their Utopian vision of the future. The thing is that the cold, hard numbers and figures DO NOT SHOW THIS!
 
Obama got 10 million less votes in 2012 than he did in 2008. The first President in our history to be re elected with fewer votes than he was originally elected with. The only group ha gained ground with is Latinos. But that was by 700,000 votes, a statistically insignificant figure in a nation of over 300 million. That performance was far from awe inspiring, it is pathetic. It indicates a collapsing base, not an irresistible one.
 
The issue is that Romney was such a terrible Candidate and ran such a weak Campaign that he received 3 million FEWER votes than John McCain. Obama won Reelection with less than 2 1/2 million votes. Do the math. If Romney had matched McCains total, he would be President Elect.
 
 I have been listening to talk radio, and the missing voters are calling in to explain themselves. It is the same every time. They are sick of the Republican Party being "DEM LITE" and will not support a liberal or moderate RINO. Remember the 2010 midterm elections? Remember the Tea Party sweeping Congress?
 
The population of the Country did not magically turn into Socialists overnite. Conservatism and its base are doing fine. Don't let yourself be demoralized by Leftist Propaganda. They would love nothing better than for us to think all is hopeless, and give up. The actual numbers do not support their claims.
 
 
 
 
In a message dated 11/8/[masked]:18:09 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [address removed] writes:
Anyone else wonder about this...Just because 3 million voters "self declared" themselves to be Republican doesn't mean that they are Republicans.  (Remember the Limbaugh suggestion to change voting affiliations and vote for Hillary in the Democrat primary?)  It is highly likely that a portion of these "Republican" voters are not Republican.

Secondly, Ron Paul ran in the Republican primary.  He had/has quite a following.  Based on my own observation (my own children and their friends) quite a bit of the younger generation LOVES Ron Paul, more importantly, his libertarian ideas.  These voters may have come out in support of Ron Paul, but once he was no longer a viable candidate, they stayed home.

Thirdly, for Limbaugh to suggest that demographics has nothing to do with this is, in my opinion, naive.  Our country has become more diverse.

Fourthly, judging from comments that appear on political websites, lots of people are greatly turned off by the "right wingnuts" and "their Bible thumping".  I am personally appalled that the "left" (and, in fact, the moderates) has such a problem with this, but, unfortunately (based on the comments I have read) they do.

Fifthly, the left has done a very good job of demonizing the right.  There are many people who buy their generalizations of Republicans as "old white males holding onto ideas from the past"

I do think the Republican party has a BIG problem.  They are in danger of extinction.  Despite our efforts, the message isn't getting out and isn't resonating.

These are my observations, I'd welcome yours!

Jane Kelley

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--- On Thu, 11/8/12, Dan <[address removed]> wrote:

From: Dan <[address removed]>
Subject: [Westlake912] Rush: GOP Lost Because It Didn't Turn Out Base
To: [address removed]
Date: Thursday, November 8, 2012, 9:33 PM

 

Newsmax

Rush: GOP Lost Because It Didn't Turn Out Base

Thursday, November 8,[masked]:17 PM

By: Michelle Lopata

Talk radio host Rush Limbaugh says that the real reason the GOP lost the presidential election is that “the Republican Party didn’t turn out its base" — not demographic issues involving black or Hispanic growth.

“The Democrats think Republicans have a demography problem” and “all they want to do is win votes with old white guys,” Limbaugh said. But “the Republican Party has . . . far more elected Hispanics than the Democrats have.”

Limbaugh noted that all of the prominent Hispanic speakers at the Republican National Convention shared a similar “up-from-nothing story” with convention attendees and the country.

Limbaugh also said that they or their families came from nothing and that sacrifice and hard work brought them their success in their professions.

“Why doesn’t that count?” Limbaugh asked. Because “the hard work story is not resonating with Obama voters.”

“We don’t have a demography problem but the Republican Party today is convinced that they do,” said Limbaugh.

“If the Republicans who didn’t vote had voted, Mitt Romney would have won the popular vote by 180,000 [votes].”

“[Republicans] didn’t lose because of demographics; 3 million of their voters stayed home.”









© 2012 Newsmax. All rights reserved.





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