Meet other people who don't believe in God.

We're not a church and don't pretend to be and don't behave like one. If you don't believe in God and feel alone, here is a chance to safely "come out" and meet other people who feel the same way, and then get on with the rest of your life.

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  • Stephen K.

    Not everybody who said they were coming, actually came. I appreciate the people who did come.

    May 29, 2013

  • Stephen K.

    I am getting old, and have to be careful about driving at night. I am still planning to attend the next Oak Harbor meetup, and I will be less than happy if I drive all the way to Oak Harbor and nobody will be there. It will be like dying and discovering nobody is home when I get to Heaven . . . Oh, my goodness, what am I saying? Somebody s/a/v/e/ me from myself.

    May 17, 2013

    • A former member
      A former member

      Stephen, I may be the one to save you from yourself. I live in Clinton and my wife and I are planning to attend the Oak Harbor meeting. We would be happy to have you join us to attend the meeting, it would give us an opportunity to get better acquainted.

      May 27, 2013

    • Stephen K.

      Roger, thank you very much for your phone call, and the offer of a ride. Much appreciated. I look forward to meeting you.

      May 27, 2013

  • A former member
    A former member

    Looking forward to meeting the group.

    May 27, 2013

  • A former member
    A former member

    Stephen, I feel I need to defend myself and justify why I can't make it, even though I said I would give plenty of notice if I had to change my RSVP and I have! Until June 22, I will only be in Coupeville on weekends. I am living and working full time on Orcas Island at the moment. I thought I could take the day off-island and attend this group, but now I am subbing that week for a friend. The logistics of ferry schedules and travel time would make my attending that evening at least inconvenient and most likely impossible. As for other potential meeting times and places, I am not against spearheading something, but the rub is, I am new to the area, I know no one, I don't even know good meeting places, and I am not a leader-type. I think the group needs a new start, to advertise an orientation/information session in a Whidbey paper, drum up interest, get ideas...I believe there *is* a need for the group, but I don't know how to go about it, as I am usually group-averse/avoidant

    May 11, 2013

    • Stephen K.

      Renee, I was probably a little harsh on you. It's kind of amazing that I am still married after 47 years of my wife putting up with me. I understand that trying to live on two islands is exponentially more difficult and complicated than living on one. As I am getting old enough that driving from Freeland to Oak Harbor is getting to the edge of when I should be driving (especially at night), I am going to have to come up with something new. We have met other places, such as Whidbey Coffee, but the library has proven to be a free and convenient place (though even there we have run into scheduling problems and scheduling conflicts with other groups, such as tax volunteers). We have met at a restaurant in Coupeville, but that was a while back. I don't know if the group will continue once I am no longer around, but depending on me for all the scheduling and publicizing energy will fairly soon cause Whidbey Freethinkers to pop like a soap bubble.

      May 11, 2013

  • Stephen K.

    Options:

    1. Renee and Marc, we never get togeter and never meet.
    2. We choose a different day, different time, and possibly different location. Choosing option 2 would require either Renee or Marc to take initiative and make a choice and take action to make it happen. Or you could wait for me to do somethig and then (perhaps) complain about it. Or, we could all wait for God to take action. Perhaps I am dropping this comment down a deep hole and I will never hear it hit bottom.

    May 11, 2013

  • A former member
    A former member

    Have to work that day now and won't be able to attend after all :(

    May 10, 2013

  • A former member
    A former member

    I wish I could make the one on the 14th, but I have childcare issues. Do you ever meet on Wednesdays or Fridays? Or just Tuesdays?

    May 8, 2013

    • Stephen K.

      You can contact me in real time at[masked] (land line). If my wife answers, tell her you are a secular person who wants to talk to me. (She is an atheist, but very shy and cautious.) The other problem is what are your goals? Religious people seem to want to reassure themselves that God exists; apparently they can talk about this endlessly. For us secularists, once that has been said, then what? A lot of people want to talk about how they were brought up religiously and escaped. I am a fairly patient listener, but at some point you will need to buy me lunch or something to keep my interest up. So be careful what you wish for, as the saying goes; you might get it.

      May 8, 2013

    • A former member
      A former member

      Friday evenings and Sundays are the best days for me to drive out to Freeland. It's mostly about childcare right now - I'm pretty much a single parent (weird story - needs a beer or three to tell) right now, and those are my best childcare days. As for how many people, two or three would be sufficient. What are my goals? Really to meet new people. I was kind of a shut in for awhile, so I'm trying to fix that by getting together with people who have similar ideas to me. If it means we sit down and have a beer or three and talk about random stuff, so be it. If it means we have serious talks about Life, the Universe, and Everything, so be it. Hell, we could even pick a book by Dawkins or Hitchens or the like and read it, then discuss it. I'm game for pretty much anything.

      May 8, 2013

  • A former member
    A former member

    I live on Orcas Island currently, an even smaller community, so I know the passive-agressive communication style. If I can not make it for whatever reason, I will give you a few days' notice. The Freeland group in farther from Coupeville, my new home starting next month, but it's only a 1/2 hour away, so it may be worth it to travel there if that group remains active...I was also thinking of attending meetings with Humanists of North Puget Sound. Do you have any experience with them?

    1 · April 21, 2013

    • Stephen K.

      At the moment, the Freeland group consists of two people, myself, and my assistant and associate, Jo. As she cogently put it, the problem with being a "dis-believer"­ is once you said that Santa Claus, tooth fairy and Easter bunny (and similar figments) are imaginary, there is not much to be said. If you believe in imaginary creatures, you then have lots to occupy yourself with with convincing yourself and fellow illusioned people what is fairly obviously not true is in fact true. So religionists and irreligionists are not a mirror image of each other. People such as Dawkins and Hitchens got about as much mileage out of disbelief as is possible to squeeze. For most of the rest of us, the main task is finding things to occupy ourselves with until the great guillotine in the sky comes down on us. At the moment, Jo is focusing on organic gardening (which I do as well) and I am focusing on mindful or conscious dying as described by Richard Wagner in AMATEUR'S GUIDE TO DEATH AND DYING

      April 22, 2013

  • Stephen K.

    Hi, Renee. I will warn you that I am 69 years old, so I might drive off the road on the way to and back. I will warn you that I consider myself a very polite and respectful person, but I seem to offend religious people and atheists with equal skill. If we manage to meet I will tell you that God does not exist. I have an assistant manager and I have tried to be very nice to her so maybe she will come with me again to Oak Harbor, but I have told her all my boring old stories so I won't blame her if she decides whe does not want to take the trip.

    Somebody just sent an email to a non-believing Catholic priest friend of mine complaining that I had demeaned and insulted this person. No name. No explanation. Whining to someone else. I hate the word "passive-aggressive" (it sounds like awful psychobabble), but that's the Whidbey Island communication style. I can deal with it, but I will whine about it also.

    April 21, 2013

  • A former member
    A former member

    I'm going to try my best to be there! Hope not to be the only one!

    April 21, 2013

  • Stephen K.

    I am coming from Freeland. I am getting old. It's a long trip. If you are coming and serious, I will come. If you don't want to come, don't say you are coming, please.

    April 21, 2013

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