Do We Need Religion To Create A Moral Society?

Is religion necessary for morality?  Many would argue that morality is of divine origin – that some dine being crafted our moral sense during the period of creation or we picked it up from the teachings of organized religion.  Yet, various studies have shown that, when presented with various moral dilemmas, there is no statistical difference between the responses of the religious and the non-religious.  These studies provide support for the idea that we are endowed with a moral faculty that guides our intuitive judgments of right and wrong ... intuitions that reflect the outcome of millions of years in which our ancestors have lived as social mammals, and are part of our common inheritance.

Join us as we discuss whether we can create and maintain a moral society without an appeal to religion.

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  • Mark

    The meeting was great - I hope I didn't dominate the conversation too much. This topic is quite important to me. As for some of the ideas that have been posted here (and maybe some at the meet up), I'd like to suggest that every point of view on this topic is more or less subjective, so if you ask a thousand people questions like "What is religion?" and "What is morality?" You may get close to a thousand different answers. Although I guess I'd have to concede that the former would result in more divergence. That's kind of why I suggested that religion should be a personal thing.

    January 16, 2014

  • Glenn F.

    I had a great time!! Great discussion!

    January 16, 2014

  • jeff s.

    Good attendance and discussion. Only wish we'd gotten to last part of topic sooner. Thanks Vernon.

    January 15, 2014

  • Gned the G.

    Interesting discussions, glad I made it. :)

    2 · January 13, 2014

  • Mark

    Vernon - I have to point out that although the major part of the topic is religion, the pivot point is morality. (Cause=> Effect). So, we may need to come to some agreement about the definition of those two main constructs. (religion vs. morality)

    January 1, 2014

    • Rev. R.

      there's a terrific article that the HOC group discussed this month in the Free Inquiry magazine. In the article "Feminism, Religion, and 'Mattering'"­ by Rebecca Newberger Goldstein she discusses that philosophy idea and I have to say, it took a bit for me to get thru the article! You can read it here: http://secularhumanis...­

      January 13, 2014

    • Gned the G.

      Interesting article.

      January 13, 2014

  • Rev. R.

    I'm bummed, but I can't attend this one. I wish you were having this one on another evening! I think this is such an important topic.

    January 12, 2014

  • Rev. R.

    I have to see if my husband can be avail. or my son's tutoring, which he has on Mondays and Fridays...

    December 26, 2013

  • Gned the G.

    This is one of my favorite topics. Too bad my web sites are down, they have a lot to say on this ;)

    December 24, 2013

  • Elone

    This should be a good discussion. We are ambiguous creatures, genetically driven to give our offspring the best advantage in the future, yet guilt ridden when that compulsion hits overdrive.

    On the one hand there is an innate need for the human species to have a Spiritual foundation in order for it to progress toward the future. The problem lies in the organization of Spirituality, the requirement of the individual to surrender personal beliefs in the formation of Religion, which often times leads to the distortion of the original beliefs, requiring rote learning for status quo.

    On the other hand we are a species driven by individual survival that yearns for equality for all members of society, which eventually becomes counterintuitive to those given the authority to rule.

    December 24, 2013

    • Gned the G.

      Very good points, I hope to see you there.

      December 24, 2013

  • Joanne

    hi, Just think that some of us still do but believe it is, religion is, anachronistic stepping stone to secular humanism! peace, Joanne

    December 24, 2013

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