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It's a Memorial Day Weekend Trail Dog Getaway!

  • May 24, 2013 · 12:00 PM

Quick Summary:
Date : 24-27 May … but you can arrive any day you like.
Time : I’m leaving @ 7:30am and will probably be at the campsite ~1pm (see below for details) … arrive whenever you like
What : Waterfalls, Sunrise/Sunsets, Caves, Rivers, Lakes, Fishing, Campfires, and more!!!
Location : Spruce Knob/Seneca Rocks area of WV
Campsite: I have reserved a mountain top group camp ground at the end of a gated fire road.  I reserved all 3 sites so we would be alone, with zero car traffic. This is the same as last time.
Distance : ~4 hours from Centreville Park and Ride
Difficulty : Varies from Medium to Hard. Easy hikes will be by request and not part of the larger plan, but they are easily doable as there are a lot of options.
Leash : Off-Lease (note: Seneca Rocks and the water hole beneath are on-leash)
Carpool : HIGHLY ENCOURAGED!!! Use the comment section to offer / request a ride-share. A good meeting point is the Centreville Park and Ride.  We’ll meet there and leave by 7:30 for those that want to caravan with me.
Cost : $25 to cover the campsite and pay for firewood
Photos from last year
http://goo.gl/3KyPu

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What to expect:
This area of WV offers many outdoor activities of all different kinds. I am not planning a strict itinerary, rather I'm hoping that folks will come and join us throughout the weekend as their schedules allow. We will all car camp together and I will organize the events I have in mind, but folks are welcome to self-organize based on activity interest.
I'm especially keen for anyone with a canoe or kayak to bring one along for us on Spruce Lake :)  If you've ever wanted to see how your dog would behave on the water, this is a perfect time.

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Accommodations:
The campground I have reserved has three tent sites; I've reserved all three to ensure we are not sharing the area with anyone else.  It is at the end of a fire road behind a locked gate (we will have the combo).  There is a campsite manager that will check in periodically to empty the trash and who will also bring us firewood.

Each site has a fire ring, picnic tables, and a lantern pole (good for hanging garbage bags too). The fire rings have grills, but expect to use a pot, pan, foil, or other clean cooking surface.  I will bring a folding cooking grate to help out, but it too is not really suitable for direct cooking (unless you like eating paint flecks).

There are no showers but there are pit toilets in the area as well as bear proof trash cans (very important to use these).

All water (drinking, cooking, cleaning) should be brought with you or treated from local source.  I think the manager has access to a potable water source but it could be out of order at any time so plan to live without it. I find one 2.5 gallon jug is enough per person + dog.  In fact I usually bring 5 gallons for 2 people + 1 dog and have plenty left over because so many other people also have brought water that we're all sharing.

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Things to do:
These are just a few of the activities available in the area.

Spruce Knob - Spruce Knob is the highest point in the 'Mountain State' and has a 360 degree lookout tower for amazing views. It is a short drive to the top and there are a well marked trails along the top of the ridge. For photos, click here: http://www.wvhome.com... At a minimum we will plan at least a sunset event at the knob.  A sunrise trip might happen too ... to be specific, I'll let people know it is a fun thing to do.  I make no promises that I will be awake for it :)

Swimming: At the base of Spruce Knob is a very nice watering hole for you and your dog. Bring a bathing suit and water shoes for this as well as some other swimming opportunities.

Caving – This is the #1 reason I’m going. For an idea of what to expect click here.  Bring a good flashlight/headlamp + a spare.  The cave is pitch black.  You won't need a helmet but expect to hit some waist deep water, slippery mud, and a bit of a scramble over some rocks. 

Waterfall Hike - This is the #2 reason I'm going http://goo.gl/Pqh63.  and is another great swimming opportunity.  It can be brisk but after a nice hard hike it is refreshing.

Hiking - There are miles and miles of trails in the area. This link contains detailed trail maps: http://www.wvhighland... and you can browse hike suggestions here: http://www.trails.com... .

Fishing/ boating - For a description of nearby Spruce Knob Lake, view this article here: http://www.associated... . As well there are many trout creeks in the area. I do not have a canoe but by all means please bring your own! Fishing license required: http://www.wvdnr.gov/... . No license is required to boat. This is a good place to learn to boat with a dog!

And of course my personal favorite activity, Do-Nothing!!! Everyone needs time to catch up on their Do-Nothing.  This is it.  No one is required to participate in any activity, and even beyond that, there will be plenty of time to relax in the morning, in the afternoon, and especially in the evening watching the fire, watching the dogs, telling stories, and just enjoying the scenery.

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Campsite / Trail Policies:
Leashes - Within the national forest there are no leash restrictions, however some trails and developed areas may have separate rules. You are responsible for reading signage and knowing when/where you are required to use a leash. You may also be asked to leash up your dog at the camp site if they are being a nuisance to others. We are all reasonable people.  If two dogs are having an issue then both owners will be asked to take turns containing their dog so the other is allowed to have play-time.

Other Users - Some of the local trails are very popular and see lots of traffic. Even if no leash is required, we may leash-up when other users pass as a courtesy. 20-ish dogs is a lot to inflict on someone else just trying to enjoy the great outdoors.

Parking Lots - Please use a leash in ALL parking lots during the weekend. Do not let your dog off leash until you are a good ways down the trail.

Vehicles - You are responsible for making sure your dog does not run into the road while in camp. If this becomes a problem, I will have to ask everyone to keep their dogs on leash for the remainder of the weekend, so please be responsible for knowing where your dog is at all times. ( NOTE: this should not be a problem this year but it still bears mentioning as a general principle)

Human Food - If your dog eats another member's food uninvited, you are responsible for replacing that food. If your pup is just TOO food motivated you may be asked to leash your dog during chow time. At the same time, you are at a DOG BASED EVENT … you know the risks, so don’t be silly and leave food unattended. It is much like a pedestrian that doesn’t look before they cross the road: you might have the right-of-way, but you will also always lose the argument with the car.

Dog Food – DO NOT feed your pup in any common areas. DO NOT leave your dog's food bowl out where other dogs can get to it. You must supervise during the ENTIRE feeding. Many dogs have food aggression, sensitive diets, etc... and DO NOT toss unused food out into the woods.  We don't want to invite unwanted guests!!!

Dog Toys – Dogs can get possessive. Bring whatever toys you want but understand I may ask you to remove the toy if it is causing other dogs to become overly agitated, or your dog is becoming toy aggressive. Of course you can always step away from the group to play with your pup.

Camp Kitchen - Your food must be put away at night in your car. There are bears in this area. In addition to food, all utensils, pitchers, used containers, trash, foil & wrappers, cups, etc ... anything that has come into contact with food or liquids needs to be properly stored overnight.

Personal Property - If your dog destroys another member's property you are responsible for making it right. That may include costs for repairs, replacement, etc... Remember, supervision keeps dogs out of trouble!

Trash – There are bear proof trash bins provided at the site and the campground manager empties them.  That said, they can fill up FAST if we aren't careful.  Everyone needs to be responsible for their own trash making it into the trash bins.

So, I make one suggestion and one requirement to help facilitate a fun weekend:
Suggestion: Minimize the trash you create in the first place. Unbox what you can and consolidate into larger REUSABLE containers. Bring washable/reusable cups, plates and utensils. There is no reason to bring stacks of disposable items if you don’t have to.  If you can't wash/reuse it, at least try to make it burnable.  Plastic disposable dinner ware is not burnable!!!
Requirement: Everyone bring at least two large heavy-duty trash bags for their own use.

Glass : If it breaks pick it up IMMEDIATELY to protect puppy paws!

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Directions:
Map - http://goo.gl/maps/jKFZ5 showing directions from the Centreville Park and Ride; adjust the starting point as required.  The first stop ("B") is Seneca Rocks.  We will be in the parking lot of Yokums General Store (http://goo.gl/maps/UrXal) which is a great place to hit your last real bathroom, and pick up last minute supplies. For those using a GPS see below for coordinates:

GPS Users:  The roads are not finely defined enough to use addresses so you must use LAT/LONG.

- Point "B" / Yokums:[masked],[masked]
- Campsite Gate:[masked],[masked]

There is no cell reception in the mountains, so please be sure you feel comfortable with the directions, and be comfortable with waiting around if you are not going to caravan with the main group as we may not be around when you actually arrive. We haven’t had trouble in the past, it isn’t that convoluted out there, but you just need to be ready to be flexible. The best option of course is to caravan with me, or someone else who has been there. I suspect I will have many repeat customers ;-)

Weather : Unless we get some good warning that the whole weekend will just be a bust, we go rain or shine.  This is what I will be using to check the weather, NOAA

Refunds: I will be flexible on refunds, but I need to cover my costs. So, no refunds until 15 people have signed up.  If the number of attendees drops below 15 then refunds will be suspended until there are 15 people again.  NO REFUNDS AFTER 17 May 2013

Attendee Limits: This is limited to 20 people based on previous experience and the need to ensure adequate tent space; 20 tents take a lot of room, especially if everyone brings a car-camping House Tent :O.  If I see a lot of RSVP's with people sharing tents then I might be able to open this to a few more people, but for now the limit is 20.

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  • Heather R.

    I love all the pics! Now I just have to figure out how to download them.

    May 29, 2013

    • Jen

      I'm in the process of uploading some of the pics I took to the google link. Unfortunately, I didn't have time to "fix" any of them. All I did was convert them from RAW to JPG. Thus, if there are any that anyone wants to download, I can probably improve the quality of the print and repost an improved version, if need be. Just let me know... Thanks for setting this up Alex!!! :)

      May 30, 2013

    • Lorraine

      Neither can I, perhaps I am a little ignorant-it's just not working for me.

      June 2, 2013

  • Lorraine

    When policing the campsites I found a 3 to 4 inch tent stake, like Ev said: it looks like a crochet hook. If you are missing it, let me know. It was up against the tree line behind Randa and Co. tent sites.

    May 28, 2013

  • Laura

    Was a great weekend! Thanks, Alex, for planning! And thanks to everyone for being so sweet to my little foster boy. He had a great trip and a lot of good experiences with new people and dogs. Both the boys have been passed out since we got home!

    2 · May 27, 2013

    • Heather R.

      Phillip slept the whole way home too. He then had a bath and slept some more.

      May 28, 2013

  • Heather R.

    We had a lot of fun and enjoyed meeting everyone and their dogs. We look forward to future events and more fun times.

    1 · May 28, 2013

  • Alex

    PHOTOS: ok looks like my ability to operate the interwebs has failed me miserably. Though I blame Picasa for losing functionality I know I've used in the past. Soooo I have found a bulk photo downloader for meetup.com. When I get home I'll start that process and then start posting all the photos either to the Picasa web album or another service so that all of you can then download them. We've got some great pics so far, please keep them coming everyone!!!

    1 · May 28, 2013

  • Alex

    LOST AND FOUND: I am in possession of a SodaStream bottle that was left at the campsite. Anyone care to claim it?

    May 27, 2013

    • april

      I think that might be me, and I do care to claim it! :)

      May 27, 2013

  • Alex

    I hope everyone and their pups had a great weekend. I know we did. Thanks for coming out.

    3 · May 27, 2013

  • A former member
    A former member

    Thanks for a great weekend camping and exploring the Seneca Backcountry!

    2 · May 27, 2013

  • Jamie

    I had a great time. What a fun bunch of people. Thanks for organizing it Alex.

    2 · May 27, 2013

  • Lorraine

    So, I posted some pics and you might get a sense that I love taking pictures of my Tina-and sharing them ;-). I'm going to try and remember all the dog and people names and I'll tag the photos.

    1 · May 27, 2013

  • Lorraine

    We had three three-dog-nights and four really great days :-). This a very special group of people and their four-footed kids. Good hiking, awesome nature, comfy and cozy campfires, super pleasant company, and energy at the appropriate times. Thanks for the motivation, the friendship and the support!

    2 · May 27, 2013

  • Allie E.

    Thanks, Alex (and vicariously Lauren of course), for planning and executing the perfect Memorial Day Weekend Getaway! What a great, GREAT campsite. I really appreciate all the foresight and advance preparation. Great hikes, too. Definitely looking forward to next year!

    2 · May 27, 2013

  • A former member
    A former member

    My apologies. I hope a wait lister is able to go.

    May 21, 2013

  • Heather R.

    Is there a water tap at the campsite for washing hands, brushing teeth etc?

    May 20, 2013

    • Alex

      Well the main problem there, is the water is not close even if it were potable. You'd still be better off, as you said, bringing your own water. But don't forget, you have to bring your own water for personal drinking too ;-) like filling your camelback etc.

      May 21, 2013

    • Heather R.

      I knew that part and definitely didn't forget :) I always bring extra just in case.
      Just the rinsing of items was my concern. Thanks!!!!!

      May 21, 2013

  • Alex

    Pest control for your pup. NOW IS THE TIME. If your dog does not have a fresh application of pest control now is the time to apply it. It takes a few days to spread and reach full effect so don't wait. Just a heads up though. Long time member and co-organizer Laura clued me into this: http://www.veterinarypracticenews.com/vet-breaking-news/2012/04/13/iverhart-max-lot-recalled-on-efficacy-concern.aspx So if you're using Iverhart, be sure to check the lot number to ensure you are not impacted.

    1 · May 21, 2013

    • Allie E.

      And... if you have time to trim your dog's nails, that's not a bad idea either. Keeps 'em from snagging in the woods, and can also help preserve your tent floor.

      May 21, 2013

  • Sarah R.

    I hate to miss this trip, have a family situation that requires me to go out of town. Hope there's still time for some waitlister's to take my spot. If there's a fall camping trip, I'll bring the smores!! have fun guys.

    May 21, 2013

    • Alex

      I'm sorry to hear that Sarah. Take care of yourself and your family.

      May 21, 2013

  • Alex

    CARPOOL: I've got a spot in my car for one person and their dog. I'm leaving at 9am-ish from I395/Edsall Rd (springfield area) and can also meet you at the Centreville Park and Ride. Your pup will be riding in the middle row of an SUV, so they need to at least be able to stay out of my lap during the drive ;-)

    May 21, 2013

  • Alex

    Clothing / Gear Advice: bring convertable pants of some sort. Weather looks hit or miss right now but either way it will be humid. So you'll be tempted to roll up / remove your pant legs. That is fine, but there are spots on the main waterfall hike with stinging nettles. LOTS OF THEM!!! They are at best an annoying irritant, at worst, will make you want to tear your own skin off!!! Treking poles are useful for some of the water crossings. If you have them, bring them. If you don't have them, don't go buy them. We can share poles and/or you can search for the perfect walking stick.

    May 21, 2013

  • Po C.

    With much regret, I'm changing my response to "not attending." A family obligation came up and this weekend was the best weekend to fulfill them.

    May 20, 2013

  • Heather R.

    I need a better map option please. Its leading me to Snowshoe Mountain Resort. Thanks!!!

    1 · May 19, 2013

    • Alex

      What exactly is sending you to snow shoe? i just tried both links and both sets of coordinates and they all lead where i expect them to. Do NOT USE the location at the very top of the event page. Meetup is very limited in how i can enter locations and is not smart enough by half to convert place names into actual locations.

      May 19, 2013

    • Heather R.

      I sent you an email you can disreguard. The map links you said to use work. Thank you!!!!!

      May 19, 2013

  • Brad

    I plan to bring two kayaks for those interested. Looking forward to it!

    January 29, 2013

    • Jen

      you're awesome! looking forward to seeing you again!

      May 17, 2013

  • april

    hi! i'd like to go but would need to carpool with someone... please let me know if someone has room (i'm in NW DC)!

    May 7, 2013

    • Heather R.

      I had meant a dog, as in 1. Sorry it came across weird.

      May 10, 2013

    • Heather R.

      Jen is driving by herself and is interested in bringing someone with her so she isn't driving alone. I think shes close to you. Message her if you like then let me know what you decide.

      May 17, 2013

  • Jen

    Is anyone else heading out Friday morning? I have a 100lb dog. I can either drive a couple of people and dogs or ride with another group, if they have room for me plus the dog. I have a subaru wagon so I definitely have space and would love to carpool. :)

    May 17, 2013

    • Heather R.

      Ask April if she wants to ride with you- she's supposed to ride with us but I think you are closer than we are and you won't have to drive alone.

      May 17, 2013

    • Jen

      Thanks! I'll send her a message. I just found out I'll be bringing a friend from Gaithersburg so I won't be alone and will have room for one or two others, if need be. :)

      May 17, 2013

  • Evelyn

    For what it's worth, I just got a VERY important job interview on Saturday morning, so it seems like Imri and I won't be able to head up to the campsite until after noon...Alex, do I need to do something special to save myself a campsite or anything?

    May 15, 2013

    • Alex

      No problem Evelyn. We'll keep an eye out for ya. As for camping space, not much to do. I'll try to make sure there is still an open spot somewhere for you. Can't promise it will be a prime locale, but there should be room.

      May 16, 2013

    • Po C.

      Evelyn, I won't be heading out until Saturday afternoon as well. I will be coming off another hike near Front Royal. Let me know if you'd like to carpool.

      May 17, 2013

  • Po C.

    This'll be our first outing with you guys. Brandi and I are looking forward to meeting you all. :)

    1 · May 17, 2013

  • Jen

    I just want to say that I'm SOOOOOO excited about joining you all! See you soon!!!! :D

    May 17, 2013

  • Allie E.

    Hi Alex, will we have any access to ice for food coolers-are there any places within a half hour or so that we can go to procure it? Or is it better in your opinion to plan foods that don't need to be kept cool? Thanks!

    May 15, 2013

    • Alex

      There is one last stop at Seneca Rocks (Yokum's General Store) where you can refresh your ice if needed. But otherwise, there is no where close to get ice. Usually if you pre-chill all your foods (especially beer) and leave room for plenty of ice, you can make it through the weekend. I usually plan to eat the most temp sensitive foods early and the more tolerate foods later. At least that is how i usually plan it and have not had problems yet.

      May 16, 2013

  • Alex

    A bit of insect repellant food for thought: http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/medical_examiner/2013/05/insect_repellents_epa_approval_evaluating_deet_picaridin_lemon_eucalyptus.html i will say I've ben using the Repel Lemon Eucalyptus for a few years now and had always been happy with the results. Nice to know it wasn't just a placebo effect. Of course i still couple that with some high strength DEET on my clothing, especially my hat bring!!!

    May 14, 2013

    • Allie E.

      I remember you touting this magic product on past trips. DEET on clothing though... gotta be careful with that stuff! It can damage synthetics like Rayon or plastic. A friend had DEET on his hand, and accidentally smeared his car interior and didn't know it- melted a mark into the plastic. That said, I'm a DEET girl- a little goes a long ways!

      1 · May 14, 2013

  • Heather R.

    Can we buy firewood from the ranger for personal use?

    May 10, 2013

    • Alex

      What do you mean personal use? Like your own fire? Regardless, of course you can. But honestly, I'll be getting enough wood that we can all share. And the three fire rings are all within about 50 ft of each other. With possibly 24 people we might need to run two rings at least for cooking purposes :O

      May 10, 2013

    • Heather R.

      Awesome, thanks. I was thinking about cooking.

      May 10, 2013

  • A former member
    A former member

    Hi All - Looking forward to the trip. I will be driving down on Friday afternoon (exact time TBD but probably around 2 or 2:30 pm), leaving from Takoma Park. I have room for one other person and one other dog if anyone would like to carpool. I'll be returning mid-morning/early after Monday.

    1 · May 9, 2013

  • Jamie

    Alex, Are we bringing food to share or just fending for ourselves?

    April 21, 2013

    • Alex

      Hey Jamie. I'm not one for trying to plan massive potlucks. That said, if you and/or another member is interested in setting something up I'll gladly play my part and bring something :)

      May 7, 2013

  • Lorraine

    I am so excited! This is far enough in advance that I can ask for the time off.

    January 29, 2013

    • Lorraine

      I got the time off! {happy}

      April 27, 2013

  • Carrie T.

    Please please let us camp with you!!! Can we get an extra campground or anything? Our dog Keiko will give you lots of kisses if she can go. :)

    April 22, 2013

    • Alex

      Wait what? Soooo you can or cannot make this event re you pup's broken toe? In any case, get yourself on the waiting list if you want a spot. As recent events show, we can get some turn over.

      April 22, 2013

    • Carrie T.

      This is a really old post...not sure why it popped up again. We cannot make this event. :(

      April 23, 2013

  • Carrie T.

    Our poor puppy has broken her toe and the vet says this trip is too soon for her to be romping around. Argh! SO sad to miss this wonderful event! We would love to camp with this group later in the year, or I will do my best to wait patiently until next year. Hope you all have a great time! Thanks for organizing!

    April 22, 2013

  • Alex

    Anyone wait-listers who need a +1, RSVP as just yourself, send me a message and I'll add your +1. Keep in mind RSVP's are first come first served.

    April 21, 2013

    • Denise V.

      My husband and I would like to join, if possible.

      April 21, 2013

  • Sarah

    Sad to miss the camping trip, but excited to go the Grand Canyon for the weekend :)

    April 21, 2013

    • Alex

      ACK you are abandoning us for the Grand Canyon? How Dare You Madam?!?!?

      1 · April 21, 2013

  • Heather R.

    It looks like I was charged twice by paypal, I have 2 receipts in my email. Would you please check? If I was are you able to refund it or cancel the transaction?

    January 28, 2013

    • Alex

      Nope, you were right ... I just got the second reciept from PayPal. I've already issued a refund for $50. Sorry for the confusion.

      January 29, 2013

    • Heather R.

      Thank you! Super excited!! This will be my first camp out here :)

      January 29, 2013

  • Carrie T.

    I'm on the waitlist. I guess I have to wait until a spot opens up to pay via Paypal. My bf Gary & our dog & I would share a 3-person tent, so we'd only take up one tent space. We would really love to go on this camping trip!

    January 29, 2013

    • Alex

      Yeah meetup, and thus me, won't take your money unless a spot opens up. We've got some time and people may drop out. But keep your eyes peeled because the waitlist is "manual" which means when a spot opens meetup.com will send you an email and then it is first come first served. I *might* close the RSVP's to prevent that and allow me to control the waitlist giving early folks a first shot at a spot. But I won't do that until the waitlist gets a little more robust. Also, since it does look like we'll have a lot of tent sharing, there is a good chance I can open the event to more people. For now I'm going to hold tight though ... we've got plenty of time.

      January 29, 2013

  • Carrie T.

    Please please let us camp with you!!! Can we get an extra campground or anything? Our dog Keiko will give you lots of kisses if she can go. :)

    January 29, 2013

  • Heather R.

    Is there any power outlets?

    January 28, 2013

    • Lorraine

      No cell phone is good

      January 29, 2013

    • Alex

      ;-) and for those that just HAVE to check -in, there is actually reception at the top of Spruce Knob; about a 30 min drive and we'll be there at least once. Two years ago it was voice only, maybe they have data now but I doubt it.

      January 29, 2013

  • A former member
    A former member

    I attempted to sign up got myself and 1 guest. But Paypal wasn't able to confirm payment. It told me to check back later.

    January 28, 2013

    • Alex

      Lissa, assuming you are Allysa from my paypal notification, then you are all good. Thanks.

      January 29, 2013

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    A former member

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    January 28, 2013

  • jane j.

    Will there be a waitlist? I know that there are several other campgrounds we can take over

    January 28, 2013

    • Alex

      Jane, yes there will be a waitlist. As for the other campgrounds. Yes there are others in nearbye in another group campground area but you'd have to keep dogs on leash there. In the dispersed area, about 20 min from where we will be, the sites are free and dogs can be off-leash, but you never know what you'll get especially on memorial day weekend. Some of the sites are 5ft off a road.

      January 28, 2013

  • Jen C

    Hmm may be another newbie question but why does it say there are only 13 rsvp'ed but the rsvp is closed?

    1 · January 28, 2013

    • Alex

      Sorry about that. For some reason the event was set to open RSVP's on 1 Feb. They are now open.

      January 28, 2013

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