11/23 - Work off the Turkey - Snow Shoe and Hot Cocoa - Snoqualmie Pass

I'm now out of Loaner Snow Shoes, they are all spoken for, if you still need a pair and you're not listed below, then renting from REI is probably the easiest. The snow has started to fall again, yeah!! (hopeful,ly it doesn't all melt), so it's time to schedule another snowshoe, Haven't you ever looked out over a beautiful mountain vista and thought to yourself what a nice place this would be for a hot cocoa with friends. I'm planning on hauling up a stove so that we can have cocoa with the best people and the best views. We'll be doing an afternoon (approx 3-5 miles) Snowshoe at Snoqualmie Pass. We'll meet for carpools in Issaquah instead of Bellevue based on feedback from people on the headache of the post function and the carpool parking being so far apart. Please post if you can drive or if you need to carpool. I have 16 pairs of loaner snow shoes, so let me know if you need to borrow and make a comment in your RSVP, so that I don't forget. My cell # is[masked] This is a cross posted event, I have cross posted this to the Pacific NW Hiking Group and the Get Up and Get Out Group as well as placed links in SOA. If it's full here look in the other group. Carpools - We will figure out the carpools at the park and ride. Each rider should plan on pitching in $5 for gas, etc. to the drivers.

I will be coming from north Seattle and probably taking I-90, I have a Toyota 4 runner, and I really don't like driving so if someone is up for driving it, we can use it.

Carpool to the Carpool - Saul's "bus" info - I will only be stopping at the stops that people actually sign up for, so if you want me to get you at one of these stops, put it in your RSVP Saul's carpool "bus" schedule: Leave house in Kenmore 8:30am -

Lake Forest Park - Ballinger Shopping center Starbucks 8:35am -

65th/Ravenna Park & Ride 8:50am - Erin (GUGO) Phillip Swanson (GUGO), Maryann (PNWHB), Laura (GUGO), Christie W (PNWHB) - Driver; Mark (PNWBH) - Driver

Greenlake Starbucks 8:55am -

Broadway and Pike Street 9:10am - Tonja Renee Hall (FB), Rachel (FB),Tatiana (GUGO)

Eastgate P&R - 9:20am -  Cynthia W (GUGO)

Issaquah P&R 9:55am

Saul's cell[masked] *** Please note: Actual Snow Shoe Route choices will be updated to reflect conditions including avalanche danger. Carpool time and location will remain the same. Most Snow shoe routes will be fairly flat and away from the slopes for safety reasons ******* Avalanche Forecast link: http://www.nwac.us/forecast/avalanche/current/zone/3/"

 

You'll notice that the south facing slopes where we will be are relatively safer, but you still want to stay clear of avalanche chutes and not be below open hillsides that could release on top of you. Most of todays routes are well clear of these hazards, If the snowpack is heavy, the back part of Gold Creek as well as portions of Kendall are riskier, we will shorten the route to stay away from that area on the Gold Creek, but if you decide to do Kendall please be familiar with the risks. We'll meet at 9:55am in the Park & Ride and head out at 10:10, the plan is to snow shoe from 11:30am until about 2:00pm and then head back down and grab a bite and a brew at the Issaquah Brewery. I expect to post 3-4 route choices so that people will have time to select. If the snow levels are high, we will have some climbing to get started. We will do sign in sheets so that each leader knows who they are responsible for keeping track of. We will have leaders for each route choice and we will probably start multiple groups 15 minutes apart on the easier route(s) based on demand. Hope to see you there.

Saul I have loaner Snow Shoes for 16 people.

I am bringing loaner snow shoes for: Myself; Sarah  (GUGO), Sarah Guest1 (GUGO),  Sarah Guest 2 (GUGO), Clayton  (PNWHB), Clayton Guest  (PNWHB), Liz (PNWHB), Liz Guest  (PNWHB), Sarita,  (PNWHB),Tod (GUGO), Tina H (PNWHB), Eva H (GUGO), Christie W (PNWHB), Jenn (PNWHB) Dori S (PNWHB), Anil (PNWHB), Abhinaba Basu (PNWHB), Erin (GUGO), Gary (PNWHB), Kari's Guest Bryan (PNWHB) (note to self - loading 22 pairs, may need help unloading kayak gear and loading snow shoe gear on Wednesday or Thursday)

 

(PNWHB), (GUGO),

You need to bring your own boots or shoes to wear with them and keep your feet warm. If you like to use poles you'll need to bring your own. The people that I am recruiting as leaders, I'll pair you in groups of two. Let me know if you have any concerns Have an idea which route interests you, we will split into carpools at the Park & Ride for the various routes.

 

  • 9:55 AM-10:10 AM - Meet for carpools and decide on which route we are snow shoeing (I will have gone up on Friday, so I should know where there is adequate snow)
  • 10:50 AM-11:00 AM - Meet at Travelers rest, Snoqualmie Pass, use the restrooms
  • 11:15 AM - Meet at trailhead nearby
  • 11:30 AM - Start snowshoeing
  • 11:30-1:45 PM - Back to the trailhead
  • 2:30 PM - Meet at the Issaquah Brewhouse, 35 West Sunset Way in Issaquah, for lunch and beer
  • Note: due to varying weather/snow conditions, we may not be back by 2:30, so please keep your afternoon open in case we finish later.

Sno-Park Permits are required at most locations after December 1st - see email from [masked] pasted below. Buy one online.

 

What to bring: You need to bring your own boots or shoes to wear with the snowshoes and keep your feet warm. If you like to use poles you'll need to bring your own. To make sure you have everything, use this snowshoe checklisthttp://www.rei.com/content/dam/documents/pdf/snowshoe-day-hiking.pdf

Please note: The actual snowshoe route choice will be updated to reflect conditions including avalanche danger. Carpool time and location will remain the same. Most snowshoe routes will be fairly flat and away from the slopes for safety reasons. Avalanche Forecast link: http://www.nwac.us/forecast/avalanche/current/zone/3/

Possible routes based on avalanche conditions:

 

Intended Routes to chose from:

Hyak Exit Lower Gold Creek Basin - the upper part tends to get avalanches - sno Park Permit required - 5-7 miles some hills, mostly flat) -

Kendall Peaks Lake - sno Park Permit required - approx 8 miles, steady climb - Elevation Gain: 1,700 feet High Point: 4,400 feet, this climb will be a good workout.

Commonwealth basin, no permit, 3-5 miles, 1000 feet gain

Mount Margaret - sno Park Permit required (possibly even Groomed trail permit, depending on where you park), 5-9 miles, 2800 feet gain.

 

Higher elevation (over 3,000 feet at the start) or further East routes in case of rain:

Source Lake, sno Park Permit required - approx 5 miles, rolling tough hills - Elevation Gain: 1,000 feet High Point: 4,100 feet

Salmon La Sac Creek, sno Park Permit required - approx 7 miles, rolling tough hills - Elevation Gain: 1,300 feet High Point: 4,700 feet

Swauk Forest Discovery Trail, sno Park Permit required - approx 4 miles, fairly flat - Elevation Gain: 450 feet High Point: 4,550 feet

Harney Meadow Loop -  sno Park Permit required - approx 7 miles, rolling tough hills - Elevation Gain: 1,600 feet High Point: 5,700 feet

 

Permit Requirements - excerpt from Email from Washington State:

RE: Sno Park permit requirement dates From: "Winter (PARKS)" <[masked]> Date: Tue, November 20,[masked]:29 pmTo:[masked] Priority: Normal Options: View Full Header |  View Printable VersionDownload this as a fileBounceSpamNot Spam

Greetings,

Permits are required starting December 1st.

Thank you for your inquiry.

 

 

I know that this event usually fills up really quick and I'd like everyone to be able to go so I will need help from others that are willing to lead, my preference is that you have some familiarity with the route, have a map, can navigate, have some first aid experience and are skilled at managing squirells in a fun way ;-) 1) Leading one of the routes - we will be in areas with legal party size restrictions of 8-12 people max, I will identify which route has which restriction. I need more people to volunteer to lead a group so that we can split into legal size groups starting either on different routes or a while apart if on the same route, we not only want to be legal, we actually don't want our groups so close together that it feels like a shopping mall experience for our fellow outdoors people, so let me know if you are willing to lead and if you have a preferred route from the list. Thanks Saul [masked][masked]

Drivers

Saul - 5

Christie W (PNWHB) 3

Terri Bartlett (PNWHB) 3

Les (GUGO) 3

Lara (GUGO) 3

Amy H (GUGO) 3

Stacy (PNWHB) 3

Marielle (GUGO) 3

Kari (PNWHB) 3

Jenn (PNWHB) 3

Abhinaba Basu (PNWHB) 3

Alicia (PNWHB) 3

Brian (PNWHB) 3

Chuck M (PNWHB) 5

Rosemary (GUGO) 3

Tina H (PNWHB) 3

Mark (PNWHB) 3

Nancy M (GUGO) 3

Kurt (PNWHB) 4

 

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  • Saul_K

    Fun getting out, a little drier would have been nice

    November 24, 2012

  • Eva H.

    As always, Saul's events are a lot of fun - the only thing wrong with this outing had been the pouring rain!~

    November 24, 2012

  • Cynthia W

    Great! Had a fun time with great folks!

    November 24, 2012

  • John B.

    OK, so we got a bit wet. Getting dried and warmed up was the other half of the fun.

    November 23, 2012

  • Tod

    Thanks for organizing Saul and loaning the snow shoes.

    November 23, 2012

  • Cynthia W

    Hoping to carpool with one of you great folks from Eastgate or Issaquah Park and Ride. looking forward to this fun event! Let it snow!

    November 20, 2012

  • Erin

    Saul, I'll go to the Ravenna P&R instead of Greenlake so you don't have to make as many stops. :)

    November 20, 2012

  • Saul_K

    Of course, they are outside my price range right now :-)

    November 20, 2012

  • Saul_K

    For those that aren't aware, the waterproof down jackets are breathable, the feathers are individually waterproofed before building the jacket, I tried one a few months ago, put it in the bath tub, lifted it out, the feathers were dry and once the fabric quit dripping it was toasty warm.

    November 20, 2012

  • John B.

    Thanks for the info, Saul. I will double check to see if I have those trails programmed into my GPS.

    In regards to the clothing, I warm up quickly while snowshoeing. I usually do not to put on the down unless I need to stop.

    I see a lot of hikers now recommending umbrellas. They may look a bit silly, but the use of umbrellas allow for a lot more options for clothing which breath. It is important not to trap moisture.

    November 20, 2012

  • Saul_K

    We will identify alternates, altitude will be the best tool for avoiding rain, gear that tolerates rain is important, they make waterproof down jackets.

    November 20, 2012

  • Saul_K

    John, I have emailed a detailed response I will cut and paste here when I'm at a computer. The temperature difference will likely be less than five degrees

    November 20, 2012

  • John B.

    Saul, if the snow level does not go down and stay down by Friday, would you consider hiking to Twin Falls as a backup? It is a nice place and relatively nearby. Most should be able to tolorate being in the rain for a hike of that duration.
    Better to have warmer rain then freezing rain.

    November 20, 2012

  • Amy H.

    Re Permits - I actually called because when I went to get a permit online it came up with the December 1 date as the first date it was Valid. The permits go up for sale November 1 which is why that date comes up.

    November 20, 2012

  • Erin

    Thanks Saul!

    November 20, 2012

  • Saul_K

    Amy, could you provide a link to where you got the December first date, I keep finding November first on the official sites. Nancy, cool, I'll add you as a driver.

    November 20, 2012

  • A former member
    A former member

    I can drive and take up to three.

    November 20, 2012

  • Amy H.

    Snow Park Permit Information: We are good to go this weekend and not have a Permit. The Permits kick in December 1, 2012.

    November 20, 2012

  • Saul_K

    Donna, of you look at your rsvp, I made it into a plus 1, which covers your guest, drive to the park and ride, we should be able to fit you.

    November 20, 2012

  • Donna

    Saul, I original was on the waitlist and said I'd like to bring a guest. I'm "in" now but would still like to bring a guest. Is it OK? She doesn't like driving on winter mt. roads. My car is old. Is there room for two of us to carpool with others? We can split up, if need be. If the only way my friend can come is if I drive, then I will drive. I have a '99 Taurus which would hold 5. I don't have snow tires and the car has a lot of miles on it, so carpooling with someone else would be my preference, but my car will make it if it's needed.

    November 20, 2012

  • Saul_K

    Erin, I will bring snow shoes for you.

    November 20, 2012

  • Phillip S.

    I can drive but will be glad to kick down some bucks to a driver.

    November 6, 2012

  • Kahrin

    Sounds like fun, too bad I will be out of town :( hopefully next time...

    November 6, 2012

  • Saul_K

    Between both groups we have 40 yes RSVP's and only 3 drivers, we need 6 more drivers, so if you're willing to drive and you're on the waiting list, I'll move you from the waiting list to the Yes. If you're already on the Yes list, I'll buy you a beer afterward. Your riders will pitch in (typically $5 each), so if you're willing to drive, post a comment indicating how many people you can take. Your vehicle should be in good working order, with good tires, etc. You'll need a parking pass as listed in the locations. All wheel or 4 wheel drive are nice but not required unless the DOT requires them on that day. I'll then move you to the Yes group.

    thanks - Saul

    November 5, 2012

  • Phillip S.

    A pick up at 65th/Ravenna Park & Ride 8:50am would be ideal for me, have my own gear :-) Let me know if you add a waitlist to this one as well.

    November 5, 2012

  • Saul_K

    I will add a waiting list tonight, thought I did when I set it up.

    November 5, 2012

  • A former member
    A former member

    At wait list? I have my own gear...

    November 5, 2012

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