Re: Re: [questioningrel-83] Thoughts on "Recent thoughts from Doug"

From: Jim G.
Sent on: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 8:37 AM

Hey guys and dolls:

New guy here. ��I came in fashionably late last meetup after work, got my tush whooped in a game of chess by Doug and talked about the jailer/jailee debate.


I know that the jist of the argument was whether it was a completely moral (i.e. supernatural, perhaps) or a completely materialistic (i.e. natural) failing that caused a thief to steal. ��


Two things I wanted to bring up is that 1a) materialist failings, such as a natural kleptomania within the mind of the thief will cause him to steal. ��This is why modern jurisprudence takes into account psychiatric causes as well as moral failings. ��The idea is that punishment is not what a true kleptomaniac needs, it's rehabilitation. ��1b) Furthermore, is punishment the purpose of prisons? ��Or is it rehabilitation. ��Perhaps prisons should be more of a hospital than a place of punishment. ��There is a lot to say on the matter, involving whether or not non-violent criminals and so-called minor offenders should be kept in prison in lieu of of other punishments, such as slap-on-the-wrist fines, suspending driver's licenses, drug rehab, (military?), and an ankle bracelet. ��2) There's is a lot to say in terms of the difference between ethics and morality. ��To put it short and sweet, ethics are far more universal than morals are. ��This distinction has been drawn since Aristotle's Nichomachean Ethics, and is most critical in some of Nietzche's works such as Human, all too Human, Thus Spoke Zarathustra, and other works like that.


I could speak volumes, but alas, I have child watching to do.


- Jim G.



__________________________

Jim Greene

Formerly of The DJ Phoenix Fame

Now, just Jim. ��


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