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Re: [alternativeenergy-35] Make Carbon Dioxide Disappear?

From: Pete
Sent on: Saturday, January 26, 2013 12:31 PM
Dear Alternative Energy Folks,

        One thing not considered or discussed in this topic of "global warming" and "climate
change" is the massive program of aerial spraying, which some people call chemtrails, which
occurs on a very frequent basis over Phoenix and hundreds of other cities in the U.S. and other
cities around the world.  Researchers say this aerial spraying program involves weather modification
(components include aluminum oxide, barrium oxide and strontium oxide) to basically "metalize"
the air so that when the HAARP installations are turned on and send millions of watts of radio
frequency into the stratosphere and ionosphere, that radio frequency energy then hits the metalized
air to raise temperatures in the atmosphere.   HAARP, it is said, can be used to modify weather
patterns, control the direction and movement of hurricanes, and possibly even trigger earthquakes.
A number of excellent, informative documentaries on DVD have been produced on this subject.
The History Channel had a one hour documentary about two years ago on "weather warfare,"
which touched on HAARP and aerial spraying as part of the program.  

        The Air Force declared ten or more years ago its goal of achieving complete control over the
weather and using that as just one more means of war fare against other countries.  

         No discussion about climate change and global warming can be complete without a consideration
of the massive program going on in our skies of aerial spraying used in conjunction with HAARP.

                                                                                                            ---Pete

P.S. This is a "black budget" program which has gotten literally ZERO comments in the media
and ZERO investigation by any main (lame) stream media outlets.   Just one day before 9/11/2001,
the Defense Department announced that there were 2.4 trillion (yes trillion) dollars in funds un-
accounted for in the Defense Department budget for the past five or so years.   The next day
9/11/2001 happened and, just by coincidence, the section of the Pentagon which involves
accounting and cost analysis was hit hardest and destroyed.   Just a coincidence, of course.  

On 1/26/13 11:47 AM, Dick wrote:

I have been following the science of global warming for over 25 years.  Since we are on the subject, I would like to add my take.
 
There are an estimated 500,000,000 cars in the world today. 120 years ago, there were none. There are an estimated 4,000 - 6,000 planes in the sky over the USA at any moment and tens of thousands around the planet. 110 years ago, there were none. Today there are millions of petroleum powered ocean vessels and small watercraft and lawn and garden machines and diesel locomotives. 120 years ago, there were none.

I am 70 years old. When I was in grade school in 1950, the population of the US was 150 million and the earth had 2.5 billion people. Today the US has over 300 million and the planet has over 7 billion. With this increase in population and the increase in use of electric lights, electric appliances, TV's, and computers, there are now tens of thousands of power plants around the world with more being added every week. 120 years ago, there were virtually none.

It is estimated that all these human activities add over 70 million pounds of CO2 to the atmosphere every day. 120 years ago, that number would have been very small.

The correlation between the increase in these human activities and the increase in the average temperature of the planet is as great as the correlation between smoking and lung cancer. Global warming is a very serious threat to the future of our grandchildren and all future generations.

Dick Rucker

 

----- Original Message -----
From: Paul Hintz
To: [address removed]
Sent: Saturday, January 26,[masked]:29 AM
Subject: Re: [alternativeenergy-35] Make Carbon Dioxide Disappear?


I find it endlessly interesting to study the latest findings or concept to stop CO2 and the warming planet.
 
Take a moment to ponder this thought of mine.
 
Its not just carbon Dioxide; its carbon atoms period-The most abundant atom on our planet. The causes of warming are related to gravity,friction and magnetic. Man takes carbon atoms from the core or crust of the earth (ores organic matter and inorganic matter) sends them into the atmosphere (fire) and these atoms collides at 18000 miles per hour with charged particles from our sun. This causes friction heats the atmosphere then traps the heat on earth the earth is also slowing down.
 
This is the simplest form of a theory in two sentences-and hopefully easy to understand, its actually very complex and deep.
 
There is no way to stop it, other than population controls. Religion prevents that except in China-so we/our great great grandkids are doomed and so is our planet.
 
Cheers to all!
 
p
----- Original Message -----
From: Franklin
To: [address removed]
Sent: Tuesday, January 22,[masked]:13 PM
Subject: RE: [alternativeenergy-35] Make Carbon Dioxide Disappear?

This would not be the first of its kind, though it might be the first industrial scale version. I recall seeing a video where an experiment was performed using the same technology as is used in submarines and the space program to scrub atmospheric CO2 by bubbling air through a strong [acid? alkali? I can't remember] and the CO2 precipitated out as dry ice. The plan was to drop the dry ice in little "torpedoes" several feed deep into the mud under the ocean floor, where the pressure and temperature are sufficient to keep the CO2 as a solid rather than dissolving into the ocean or bubbling out.
The experiment worked as a proof of concept. The device ran overnight and the concentration of atmospheric CO2 in the open-air football stadium where it was placed dropped measurably compared to a control taken the previous night.
The big plan was to make these into industrial scale scrubbers to be placed near wind farms to take advantage of the clean electricity to power the process.
I wish I could find the link to that video.

Although it is easier to avoid putting the CO2 there in the first place, there is already too much CO2 in the atmosphere. The greenhouse effect is happening and event if we did not add another molecule today, the atmosphere will heat up for decades to come before natural processes captured it into plant material. This type of device is needed immediately. It should be placed next to algae farms as a concentrating feeder similar to what is presently done at the algae pools in Gila Bend.
-Franklin



Subject: [alternativeenergy-35] Make Carbon Dioxide Disappear?
From: [address removed]
To: [address removed]
Date: Mon, 14 Jan[masked]:15:56 -0500

Wouldn't it be easier to just stop putting the CO2 into the air than continue to put it in and try to figure out how to extract it later?

<http://www.takepart.com/article/2013/01/09/our-next-trick-we-will-make-carbon-dioxide-disappear?cmpid=ait-fb>

For Our Next Trick, We Will Make Carbon Dioxide Disappear

Jon

Jon Findley

"I cannot understand why people are frightened of new ideas. I'm frightened of the old ones..."  --Nicola Tesla




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