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Bradley Manning, WikiLeaks and Afghanistan - US Citizen in Guantanamo

Wilber W.
WilberWebb
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Yes, Afghanistan is Vietnam | Diplomat http://bit.ly/cLFdGP...­

Fidel Castro on WikiLeaks http://bit.ly/90ZS4x...­
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Extraordinary map interface to Afghan War Diary by Danish Newspaper
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Pentagon: return our "stolen" docs, ...or else
There can be no doubt that the Wikileaks editor-in-chief, Julian Assange, and his staff are in real danger
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The US government and military are now making ominous threats
against Wikileaks, following its release of over 76,000 secret US
military documents which reveal that the US and its Nato allies
are killing hundreds of Afghan civilians in unreported incidents
and committing countless war crimes in Afghanistan.

The Pentagon has made the accusation that by publishing the
documents, it is Wikileaks that has "blood on it hands",
endangering the lives of "our troops, our allies and Afghan
partners", rather than the politicians and generals who are
waging an unjustified war which has slaughtered tens of
thousands.

The Pentagon says that if Wikileaks does not ""immediately return
all versions of all of those documents to the US government and
permanently delete them from its website, computers, and
records... we have to compel them to do the right thing."

The aim is to use intimidation and fear to deter any future
whistleblowers from revealing the truth about the failing war in
Afghanistan. There can be no doubt that the Wikileaks
editor-in-chief, Julian Assange, and his staff are in real
danger.

Just as the Vietnam anti-war movement was galvanised by Daniel
Ellsburg's leaking of the Pentagon Papers, revealing the reality
of the Vietnam War which had been hidden from the American
public, today's anti-war movement needs to do all it can to
support Julian Assange, Bradley Manning and all the
whistleblowers who are so important to the campaign against the
war in Afghanistan.
Wilber W.
WilberWebb
Group Organizer
London, GB
Post #: 2,655
Pentagon to WikiLeaks: Return Our Secret Documents, ...Or Else
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The U.S. Department of Defense has issued a demand to WikiLeaks: Return all the secret documents related to the war in Afghanistan, or else.



In a press briefing, Pentagon spokesperson Geoff Morrell made it very clear the Pentagon isn’t playing along; it wants its documents back or it will find ways to “compel them to do the right thing,” according to reports from the press conference:

“We want whatever they have returned to us and we want whatever copies they have expunged… We demand that they do the right thing. If doing the right thing is not good enough for them, then we will figure out what alternatives we have to compel them to do the right thing.”

WikiLeaks made international headlines when it published more than 90,000 military reports, many of them secret, related to the U.S. war in Afghanistan. Information from the documents was simultaneously published in The New York Times, The Guardian in the UK and Der Spiegel in Germany. Many organizations, including the Pentagon, are still sifting through the mountains of documents.

This isn’t the U.S. government’s first clash with WikiLeaks. Just last week, Jacob Appelbaum, a security research and programmer, was briefly detained by U.S. authorities and probed on his involvement with the controversial website. Appelbaum’s three mobile phones were also confiscated.

Government insiders have also told WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange that he could be arrested if he returns to the U.S.

For all their hauteur, these ominous words from the government aren’t fazing WikiLeaks. The WikiLeaks Twitter account called the Pentagon’s threats “obnoxious.”

“What we didn’t hear from the Pentagon last week: ‘Killing all those innocent people is bad. Sorry. We will stop that,’” the WikiLeaks rep continued via Twitter().



What do you think of WikiLeaks’ role in these government PR disasters? Should the site return the documents in their possession? We welcome your opinions in the comments.
Wilber W.
WilberWebb
Group Organizer
London, GB
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Wilber W.
WilberWebb
Group Organizer
London, GB
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Wilber W.
WilberWebb
Group Organizer
London, GB
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New Yorkers Demand Manning’s Release
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by Debra Sweet, World Can’t Wait

About 80 people converged on Times Square outside the Times Square Military Recruiting Center on Monday August 16, 2010 to demand that the US military drop charges against Army private Bradley Manning. He’s being held in Quantico VA. The Army alleges Manning is the source who leaked the Collateral Murder footage of the 2007 incident where U.S. Apache helicopters gunners killed 12 Iraqi civilians.

Attorney Leonard Weinglass attended, and spoke about the need for vigorous defense of whistle-blowers. Weinglass had defended Daniel Ellsberg in 1971 on federal charges stemming from Ellsberg’s leak of the “Pentagon Papers” exposing the US war crimes towards Vietnam, successfully. Part of the reason, he said, was that so many people were vocally against the Vietnam War.

So let’s make some noise! “Prosecute War Criminals — Not Those Who Expose War Crimes!” More New York City actions are planned.
Wilber W.
WilberWebb
Group Organizer
London, GB
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Reminder: Free speech isn't free
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Why won't the Pentagon help WikiLeaks redact documents? | Salon http://bit.ly/bPbcN8...­
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"I was wrong" -- kudos to Sean Kelley http://bit.ly/avq8Fi...­
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WikiLeaks strikes at DoD on twitter | The Hill http://bit.ly/aYFRjb...­
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Our big guns in defeating prior restraint: You. Latest WikiLeaks 'insurance' file now has over 100,000 downloads.
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Killing the wrong people in Afghanistan | CBS http://bit.ly/9CAEFm...­
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Film maker Michael More to contribute to Bradley Manning defense fund http://bit.ly/bbsEfU...­ - what about you?
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Julian Assange wins Sam Adams Award for Integrity http://bit.ly/bvxHYO...­
4:47 AM Aug 20th via bitly

Antiwar activists rally around soldier suspected of leaking classified material to WikiLeaks http://bit.ly/aS5IGC...­
Wilber W.
WilberWebb
Group Organizer
London, GB
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Julian Assange wins Sam Adams Award for Integrity
August 19, 2010
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The award is judged by a group of retired senior US military and intelligence personnel, and past winners. This year the award to Julian Assange was unanimous.

Previous winners and ceremony locations:

Coleen Rowley of the FBI; in Washington, D.C.
Katharine Gun of British intelligence; in Copenhagen, Denmark
Sibel Edmonds of the FBI; in Washington, D.C.
Craig Murray, former UK ambassador to Uzbekistan; in New York City
Sam Provance, former sergeant, U.S. Army, truth-teller about Abu Ghraib; in Washington, D.C.
Frank Grevil, major, Danish army intelligence, imprisoned for giving the Danish press documents showing that Denmark’s prime minister disregarded warnings that there was no authentic evidence of WMDs in Iraq; in Copenhagen, Denmark
Larry Wilkerson, colonel, U.S. Army (retired), former chief of staff to Secretary Colin Powell at the State Department, who has exposed what he called the “Cheney-Rumsfeld cabal”; in Washington, D.C.
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Not sure yet where this year's award ceremony will be held, but I'll be there.
A former member
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Reminder: Free speech isn't free
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Why won't the Pentagon help WikiLeaks redact documents? | Salon http://bit.ly/bPbcN8...­
about 17 hours ago via bitly

Whatever happened to "we do not negotiate with terrorists?".

And as for Manning, I think we're all contributing to his legal defense fund - it's called "paying taxes" - if he cannot afford an attorney, he gets a public defender on our dime.

If he leaked the 100K docs, (the heli movie may be a different story), he should face treason charges.
Rudy
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London, GB
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Dear Wilber,

I respect your political views and why you chase some of these causes. I don't agree, but I understand. However, for those of us who don't share your point of view, particularily in the case Bradley Manning, the soldier who broke military law (US Military Code of Justice) and provided classified information to Wikileaks. Which has now endangered the lives of informents and others working closely with the multinational forces and the UN in Afgahnastan because their names were posted in many of the leaked documents on Wikileaks (and Wikileaks admits now that this wrong and they should have looked at the information before posting it).

Please stop sending out group messages for donations to his legal defense.

When he took the oath to be a US Soldier, he accepted that many of his constitutional rights would be limited under rules and laws of the Military Code of Justice. As a US Soldier, one doesn't have the "freedom of speech". Which he and his legal team will find out in front of the military tribunal that will court martial him.

The point of this message, post your views on the board, but please don't spam the membership.

Many of us don't agree or care, and then there are some of us who can't wait to see Manning court martialed and sentanced to the full extent of the Military Code of Justice. Especially those of us who served our country in the armed forces in the past and kept our views to ourselves until we became civilians again.

Please stop the spam.

Thank you!
Rudy
user 2433515
London, GB
Post #: 11
Oh yes, by the way Wilber,

I fought for you...

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Enjoy your freedom.



Dear Wilber,

I respect your political views and why you chase some of these causes. I don't agree, but I understand. However, for those of us who don't share your point of view, particularily in the case Bradley Manning, the soldier who broke military law (US Military Code of Justice) and provided classified information to Wikileaks. Which has now endangered the lives of informents and others working closely with the multinational forces and the UN in Afgahnastan because their names were posted in many of the leaked documents on Wikileaks (and Wikileaks admits now that this wrong and they should have looked at the information before posting it).

Please stop sending out group messages for donations to his legal defense.

When he took the oath to be a US Soldier, he accepted that many of his constitutional rights would be limited under rules and laws of the Military Code of Justice. As a US Soldier, one doesn't have the "freedom of speech". Which he and his legal team will find out in front of the military tribunal that will court martial him.

The point of this message, post your views on the board, but please don't spam the membership.

Many of us don't agree or care, and then there are some of us who can't wait to see Manning court martialed and sentanced to the full extent of the Military Code of Justice. Especially those of us who served our country in the armed forces in the past and kept our views to ourselves until we became civilians again.

Please stop the spam.

Thank you!

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