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Bradley Manning, WikiLeaks and Afghanistan - US Citizen in Guantanamo

Wilber W.
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Fareham, Today 04:53 AM
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Simple question not answered here. Assange's misdemeanours involve the UK, Sweden and Ecuador. Who said any of this was the US's business ? Until someone explains in words of one syllable, then the current threats by the US to Ecuador can only look like bully-boy tactics (which they probably are).

If the US wish to extradite Assange, then they are at liberty to apply for extradition to the country where he is resident. The US did not apply to the UK for it when they had plenty of opportunity. I wonder why not ...


Skunk Runner, Today 06:50 AM
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Fareham you are correct. why is the US Threatening Ecuador when they have stated they have no intentions of extraditing him....If that is true then they should not care one way or the other if Ecuador grants him asylum...Unless they really were waiting for him to go to Spain, which would then make the US look like a Snake..and probably is.



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Wilber W.
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Wilber W.
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Barriers removed Ecuador Embassy Assange vigil
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Assange Supporters Hold 24-Hour 'Vigil' Outside Ecuador Embassy
For 10 weeks now - 2 weeks at 24 hr since the assault on the Embassy by the British police
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Selah Hennessy
August 24, 2012

LONDON — Foreign ministers from Latin America meet in Washington Friday to discuss Julian Assange, the founder of Wikileaks who has been living inside Ecuador’s London Embassy for over two months. Ecuador has granted Assange asylum but Britain has made it clear that the founder of Wikileaks will be arrested if he leaves the Ecuadorian embassy.

Last week Britain made a written warning to Ecuador, saying it could invoke a 1987 act to arrest Assange inside the embassy. Ecuador said it saw that letter as a “threat,” which Britain has denied.

But the situation has created diplomatic tension between Britain and Ecuador and infuriated Assange supporters.

Across the street from the Ecuadorian embassy in London, protesters are holding what they call a “vigil” - they say it is a 24-hour watch in order to ensure that Assange is not forcibly removed from the embassy by British police.

One protester, who declined to give his name, spoke to VOA. “It’s a cause of deep concern that people have to seek extradition from the United Kingdom and it’s very much Mr. Assange’s right to do so and it’s the Ecuadorians’ authority to be able to grant that,” he said.

Assange entered Ecuador’s embassy in London more than two months ago requesting asylum. His aim was to avoid being extradited to Sweden, where he is wanted for questioning about rape and molestation claims, which he denies.

He says he believes his extradition to Sweden would lead to further extradition to the United States to face charges related to Wikileaks, an organization that has released hundreds of thousands of classified U.S. cables.

Anand Doobay is an extradition lawyer at Peters & Peters Solicitors in London. He described the circumstances under which British police might enter a foreign embassy.

“The UK Legislation says well look if you use the embassy for an unpermitted reason - and to take an extreme example, let’s say that there is somebody in the embassy who has a gun and is just shooting people from the embassy, obviously that is not a permitted reason so the act then allows the UK to say, we are ceasing to recognize you as an embassy because you are doing something that is not allowed under international law and we are going to enter the embassy,” said the lawyer.

He says it would be an “extreme thing to do.” He says Britain would only be able to do it if it believed it was making a decision in accordance with international law.

“I think that it is very unlikely that the UK Would choose to go down that route because it is very aware that its own embassies need to be secure around the world and it wouldn’t want other countries, or rather people or protesters, to feel that they could invade its embassies without any redress,” said Doobay.

Officials in Ecuador have said Assange can stay in the embassy for as long as he wants. Even, they say, for “two centuries” if necessary.


Wilber W.
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Assange case: Sweden's shame in violating human rights
Even in the past, Sweden had "collaborated with its Washington allies" to violate human rights and international law.
The Swedish government HAVE deliberately abandoning the criminal investigation against Assange

"If the Swedish government really wanted to pursue the investigation of sexual offence allegations against Assange, they could do so. But instead, they are deliberately abandoning the criminal investigation - which is getting older and more difficult to pursue - for other reasons. "



‘Assange a pawn in US-led campaign against whistleblowers’
The Assange affair may cause more whistleblowers to put aside their fears speak out, according to Latin American expert Nikolas Kozloff.
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Assange case: Sweden's shame in violating human rights
The Swedish government refused Ecuador's offer to interview Assange at its London embassy
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It was like a scene from a Hollywood movie, where the kidnapper walks up from behind, with a gun protruding from his trench coat pocket. "Keep walking, and don't say anything," he warns.

Such was the UK government's threat two weeks ago to Ecuador, that British police could invade the Ecuadorian embassy if necessary to arrest WikiLeaks' founder Julian Assange. But Ecuador's foreign minister didn't keep walking, and said something, to the great embarrassment of the UK Foreign Office. The Foreign Office tried to say it wasn’t a threat - although it was now available to the world in writing - and then took it back.

But the unprecedented threat to violate the Vienna convention that protects diplomatic missions brought serious criticism from the Union of South American Nations, and then - despite being watered down by Washington - another rebuke from the Organisation of American States.

The UK's threat also made it clear that this case was not about questioning Julian Assange regarding a possible criminal case in Sweden. Few could believe that the UK government would have resorted to such extreme and illegal measures if this were just a matter of extraditing a foreign citizen to a foreign country where he is not even charged with a crime.

Sweden's role in Assange case

But what about Sweden's role in this sordid affair? Most obviously, Sweden has had the opportunity to interview Assange in the UK, but has repeatedly refused to do so. The Swedish government also refused Ecuador's offer to interview Assange at its London embassy. As in the past, no justification was offered.

The Swedish government also refused to negotiate with Ecuador for an extradition under which Assange would go to Sweden but not be subject to extradition to the US. This would be very easy for Sweden (or the UK, for that matter) to arrange. Once again, the Swedish government offered no reason for its refusal to consider this obvious solution to the diplomatic impasse.

Contrary to much press commentary, there is no need for conspiracy theories here to draw the logical conclusion. If the Swedish government really wanted to pursue the investigation of sexual offence allegations against Assange, they could do so. But instead, they are deliberately abandoning the criminal investigation - which is getting older and more difficult to pursue - for other reasons.



This also casts serious doubt on all the people who have opposed Assange's asylum on the grounds that they care about the two women who have accused Assange. (It is worth noting that neither of the two women accused Assange of rape, although that is one of the allegations that has been spread throughout the media and the world). Anyone who was really concerned about pursuing this case would aim their fire at the Swedish prosecutor, and at least ask her why she has abandoned the investigation.

This includes the lawyer representing the plaintiffs, Claes Borgstrom, who was reportedly instrumental in getting the third prosecutor (Marianne Ny) to go after Assange. (The previous prosecutor assigned to the case had dropped it because the evidence is so weak). Borgstrom has been in the media defending the United States and its allies, rather than his clients, asserting that Assange "must know" that the case "has nothing to do with WikiLeaks".

Attack on Freedom of expression

But Borgstrom must know that there is a wealth of evidence that the US is very much interested in punishing Assange, and it keeps growing: on August 18, the Sydney Morning Herald reported that Australia's foreign service was aware that US authorities had been pursuing Assange for at least 18 months. And on August 24, Craig Murray, a former UK ambassador and 20-year career diplomat there, reported that his colleagues at the UK foreign office knew better than to make the unprecedented threat of invading Ecuador's embassy, but did so under pressure from Washington.

Like many European countries, including of course the UK, Sweden's foreign policy is closely allied with that of the US government. This is not the first time that Sweden has collaborated with its Washington allies to violate human rights and international law. In 2001, the Swedish government turned over two Egyptians to the CIA so that they could be sent to Egypt, where they were tortured.

Sweden's action brought condemnation from the UN and the government was forced to pay damages to the victims; both were later cleared of any wrongdoing. Polls showed that Swedes considered this crime the worst political scandal in their country in 20 years.

Sweden is a highly developed social democracy that has many guarantees of civil rights and liberties to its citizens. The people of Sweden should not allow their government to continue to disgrace itself in another international governmental crime - this one a pernicious attack on freedom of expression - simply because Washington wants them to do so.

Mark Weisbrot is co-director of the Center for Economic and Policy Research, Washington, DC. He is also President of Just Foreign Policy.
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Wilber W.
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Exclusive interview with Julian Assange in the Ecuadorian Embassy



Uruguayan journalist Jorge Gestoso interviews Julian Assange from within the Ecuadorian Embassy in London. Originally aired on GamaTV, August 30, 2012.

Original link:
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Wilber W.
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Exclusive interview with Julian Assange in the Ecuadorian Embassy



Uruguayan journalist Jorge Gestoso interviews Julian Assange from within the Ecuadorian Embassy in London. Originally aired on GamaTV, August 30, 2012.

Original link:
http://www.gamatv.com...­


WikiLeaks And Digital Activism After Assange
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It is time for another round of reflection upon the reason that Julian Assange’s extradition case is such major news. What makes Julian Assange different from, for instance, Dominique Strauss-Kahn, a famous guy who may have done something terrible to another woman?

Assange’s cult of personality has led the media narrative to focus more on the man and the rape accusations against him, than on the work of his organization. The spectacle of trials and arrest warrants beget rhetorical bets over whether or not Assange will be extradited to Sweden, then shipped again to America, where he would be tried for espionage.

Popular opinion, however, remains incredibly divided on this issue, because Assange and WikiLeaks continue to represent a controversial cause: transparency in national government. The spectrum of commentary over the extradition case runs the gamut from those who think it is a United States-backed witch hunt, to those who call Assange, Bradley Manning, and a whole roster of “hacktivists” a threat to security and the sovereign right to national secrets.

But in reality, the WikiLeaks discourse transcends partisan politics, and instead reveals an uneasy conflict of media cultures. Journalism is at a crossroads regarding its relationship to the state. Large international newswires such as the Associated Press and Reuters are responsible for verifying and contextualizing statements from governments and figureheads, and disseminating their words throughout the world. Bloggers and independent citizen-journalists complement the work of broadcast and print journalism by producing local content that can spread across horizontal digital networks. These voices often challenge the assumptions behind bigger news organizations’ reporting of a given story.

But WikiLeaks, a nation-less, non-profit news organization, renewed the idea that a large, brand-name operation can be a credible whistle-blower, and that journalists play an important role in helping citizens keep their governments accountable and transparent. It has produced an incredible amount of “scoops”—far more in 2010 than any other news organization combined. Cables regarding intelligence contractors, Guantánamo Bay, the Syrian government and other issues have complicated citizens’ understanding of national foreign policy. WikiLeaks’ legacy is definitely worth defending, with or without Assange.

WikiLeaks is committed to telling the truth that belies official statements, and the results of this mission statement have inspired audiences’ own thirst for truth and facts, whether or not they publically support Assange. It is possible to see this attitudinal shift in U.S. election coverage: armies of “fact-checkers” have been on call to eviscerate politicians’ speeches at the Republican and Democratic national conventions. People are much less likely to passively accept what some figurehead may tell them through the loudspeaker of the mainstream press. These are all positive developments for journalism - both as an industry and as a personal vocation.

This distinction is important: what WikiLeaks is engaged in is investigative journalism, rather than political activism. As an activist with a critical eye turned in the direction of many governments, I firmly support WikiLeaks' right to continue publishing lesser-known or classified cables in the name of public interest and education. However, activists and others who identify as politically “progressive” must be careful not to put Assange on a pedestal that he may not deserve, depending on the resolution of the rape case.

Furthermore, it is one thing to identify as a supporter of Assange or WikiLeaks, but to fetishize digital exposés and “hacktivism” as political strategy risks passing the buck on responsibility for social change. It is still up to individuals to do more than share a link to leaked cables - to also genuinely respond to the information produced by journalists, and to build coalitions that can actually advocate for and produce change.

This is easier than ever in a social media-saturated universe, in which people with similar interests and the same grievances can connect instantly to debate the implications of the latest stories. For example, copycat website Tunileaks may have hastened democratic progress in Tunisia at the beginning of the Arab Spring protests, after the website distributed cables from the U.S. embassy there. The key is that the people of Tunisia had an eye toward the broader context of political change and dissatisfaction with leader Ben Ali; leaks such as these by themselves still require a reaction from activists.

In the end, WikiLeaks is not a politically activist website in itself, but is rather a platform that has renewed the synergy between journalism and activism.
Wilber W.
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400 gathered for Occupy Charlotte at the start of the week at Marshall Park, just yards/meters away from the stadium where the DNC were holding it's convention.

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The Bradley Manning Support Network’s report on the actions can be found bellow

September 6, 2012

President Barack Obama
The White House
Washington, D.C. 20500

Hand delivered to the Democratic National Committee

Dear Mr. President:

As members of peace and justice organizations opposed to your continuation of the Bush administration’s failed wars, we are writing to urge you to do the right thing on behalf of Private First Class Bradley Manning. As you know he has been imprisoned and, at times, tortured during his incarceration. It is alleged he leaked documents to Wikileaks and possibly other material, including a video of U.S. soldiers committing war crimes in Iraq . It is ironic that none of the soldiers who killed unarmed Iraqi civilians have been charged with a crime, but Pfc. Manning is charged and accused of releasing documents which were embarrassing to the U.S. government, as they showed diplomatic and military support for a number of dictatorships in the Middle East.

It is very important that you retract your statement made at a fundraiser in April 2011, regarding PFC Manning’s guilt. It was astonishing to hear you say, “He broke the law.” How can Pfc. Manning receive a fair trial when his commander-and-chief convicts him prior to a court martial?

As you know, for the first eleven months of his detention, Pfc. Manning was held in solitary isolation. He was not allowed regular exercise or sunlight, and was even forced to stand at attention naked. The U. N. Special Rapporteur on Torture, Juan Méndez, has declared these conditions “cruel, inhuman and degrading.” Recently, Pfc. Manning’s defense revealed they have discovered emails which show orders to hold him in these inhuman conditions came from a three-star general who ignored the warnings of brig psychologists, and was likely acting with political motive.

Though he’s yet to be convicted of any crime, PFC Manning has already been severely punished. If for no other reason, you could pardon him of all charges. This would call attention to the need for respecting the international human rights of all prisoners.

There was no harm done by the release of the Wikileaks documents. In fact, the documents helped ignite the Arab Spring.

And it can be argued that the document release played a part in bringing an end to the Iraq War. During the 2008 campaign, a majority of citizens believed that U.S. forces should be withdrawn from Iraq . Many people voted for you because they believed that you would end the war.

Unfortunately, you sought to keep troops in Iraq past the originally planned 2011 deadline. Documents allegedly released by PFC Manning helped U.S. citizens understand why the war had not ended sooner. These reasons included a failure of the command to adequately discipline soldiers who would discredit the U.S. military in the eyes of the world by wrongfully killing civilians.

Bradley Manning has a conscience. Words attributed to him in May 2010 suggest he acted because he wanted people to see the truth because without information, you cannot make informed decisions. You made a similar statement in May 2011: In the 21st century, information is power; the truth cannot be hidden; and the legitimacy of governments will ultimately depend on active and informed citizens. We now ask that you honor those words by freeing American truth-teller Bradley Manning.

In peace,

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A report back from Washington D.C. by Occupy London bellow, bottom
Gil Scott Heron - Washington D.C - "Citizens of Poverty"
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--- A report back from Washington D.C. by Occupy London wrote:

On 11 September 2012 01:49, Andria E-M wrote:



Dear Fellow London OCCUPY


Tonight in Washington DC, the Caravan for Peace and Justice with Dignity, marched to Freedom Plaza - an area surrounded by all the majestic government buildings. I was there. I Was There.... AND guess what...The rally for hours after was held in exactly the same place as OCCUPY DC!

Yeah
I couldn't help thinking how can people implementing such an evil war be so unkind to drug users (federal ban on Needle exchange funding is still in place....again!) Hence a country, with so much money has a huge number of people living with AIDS that were completely unnecessary sero-conversions (going from HIV - to HIV+). How can a country that prides itself on it's democratic structures still fund anti-drug activities in neighboring Latin America, which is greatly contributing to the murders of many thousands of Mexicans on the street? How can all drugs apart from methadone be criminalized to drug users in the USA, and that includes the raids by cops on Medical marijuana dispensaries? How can a country, which uses so much cocaine uphold drug policies, which cause great suffering to the Cocalera/os down south in L America? How can .... How can.... HOW? The questions in my head just went on and on and on. It's not that the electorate don't know any better. In UK, it is now a known fact that most people would legalize marijuanah tomorrow if they could? and it's not that different in the 'good ol' USA....so what is the answer; what Are the answers?
Wilber W.
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Con....

We are a minority issue...it is only immoral weak Opiaphiles like me that apparently want the drugwar to end. It is only young black folk that end up behind bars though the same proportion of Americans use drugs as do in the non-'white' - pink - communities. It's only junkies and queers dying from AIDS, so who cares? This was NEVER true in most of the world but it was in the USA, so the message from government came loud and clear "Die Motherfuckers!" As I kept asking all these questions and the answers unveiled themselves to me AGAIN, I began to listen ....speaker after speaker, mostly in Spanish shared their own solidarity messages followed by the testimonials of the Mothers of the disappeared and /or murdered. One big cuddly woman could not stop crying through her words, and so I started weeping, and I imagined that everybody else was crying too right there in the sunset of Freedom Plaza. The grief was relentless for her.How can she let go of her son while she has no idea if he is alive or dead? How can she even think about this without pain? How can we not walk on Wall Street, St Paul's, Parliament and so on demanding that our governments sort out all the crooks of the war on SOME drugs-users?....G knows there are enough of them. Unfortunately some of them actually are cops, government, customs officials, religious leaders and ANYONE can be benefiting from the war on SOME drug users....from the 'black' monies of the war.

So what's to be done?

When the Mama came off the Platform, I waited to get her attention. I had stopped crying by then. She hadn't of course, so I grabbed an interpreter and told her "soy andria. My life-partner was killed by AIDS and half my 'family' are dead or dying from AIDS, hepatitis, ODs, suicides and /or going insane - ALL collateral damage of the war on Some drug users. But Mama, it will be us who have lost so much who will finally end this stupid war. Please Mama, be strong. Everybody is here for you. AND Thank U for giving me personally some strength back tonight..." We had lots and lots of hugs and I knew that that is what I went to the Peace Caravan for

Gotta sleep now...

Flying home tonight

andria e-m

xxxxx
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Mama and Social Activista
Andria Efthimiou-Mordaunt MSc
London, UK

“Harm reduction” is often made an unnecessarily controversial issue as if there was a contradiction between prevention and treatment on one hand and reducing the adverse health and social consequences of drug use on the other. This is a false dichotomy. They are complementary.

Taken From UNODC (2008) Reducing the adverse health and social effects of drug use: A comprehensive approach.
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Gil Scott Heron - Washington D.C - "Citizens of Poverty"
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Symbols of democracy, pinned up against the coast
Outhouse of bureaucracy, surrounded by a moat
Citizens of poverty are barely out of sight
Overlords escape in the evening with people of the night
Morning brings the tourists, peering eyes and rubber necks
To catch a glimpse of the cowboy making the world a nervous wreck
It’s a mass of irony for all the world to see
It’s the nation’s capital, it’s Washington D.C.

It’s the nation’s capital
It’s the nation’s capital
It’s the nation’s capital, it’s Washington D.C.
(mmmm-hmmm)

May not have the glitter or the glamour of L.A.
May not have the history or the intrigue of BOMBAY
But when it comes to making music, and sure enough making news
People who just don’t make sense and people making do
Seems a ball of contradictions, pulling different ways
Between the folks who come and go, and one’s who’ve got to stay
It’s a mass of irony for all the world to see
It’s the nation’s capital, it’s Washington D.C.

It’s the nation’s capital
It’s the nation’s capital
It’s the nation’s capital, it’s Washington D.C.

Seems to me, it’s still in light time people knifed up on 14th street
Makes me feel it’s always the right time for them people showing up and coming clean
Did make the one second to none


It’s the nation’s capital
It’s the nation’s capital
It’s the nation’s capital, it’s Washington D.C.
(mmmm-hmmm)

Symbols of democracy, pinned up against the coast
Outhouse of bureaucracy, surrounded by a moat
Citizens of poverty are barely out of sight
Overlords escape in the evening with people of the night
Morning come and bring the tourists, craning rubber necks
Catch a glimpse of the cowboy making the world a nervous wreck
It’s a mass of irony for all the world to see
It’s the nation’s capital, it’s Washington D.C.

It’s the nation’s capital
It’s the nation’s capital
It’s the nation’s capital, it’s Washington D.C.
It’s the nation’s capital
Got you feeling capital
Punishment is capital in Washington D.C.
Wilber W.
WilberWebb
Group Organizer
London, GB
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"Wikileaks is a service to the public: Assange should be given the metal of honor!" ...Chomsky

What is the sate of play in The USA Today?
In this "Year of election" it pays to take pause and reflect on where we are politicaly, to take stock of the strengths of the working classes this historical moment in the US both good and bad.



Chomsky: Occupy Movement "Has Created Something That Didn't Really Exist" in US — Solidarity



Few comentators within the US have the same historical and objective depth as Mr Chomsky
Wilber W.
WilberWebb
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London, GB
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