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Re: [astronomy-121] wasnt mars supposed to be around in August?

From: Samantha
Sent on: Thursday, August 27, 2009 10:30 PM
that sounds great, i would love to see some real nice pictures! lol

On 8/27/09, Niphon <[address removed]> wrote:
> Hi
>
> I'm working on that. I'm going to look for a nice camera for my telescope.
> I'll post them on the meetup page when I do.
>
> Niphon
>
> Sent from my iPhone. Cause I'm cool.
>
> On Aug 27, 2009, at 12:56 PM, Samantha <[address removed]> wrote:
>
> Hi everyone ,
> you guys are lucky you get to see the planets! I dont have a telescope
> so i can't really provide useful information... i would love to see
> pictures !
> Samantha
>
> On 8/26/09, Niphon <[address removed]> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Thanks for that post. That hoax is silly.
>
> I saw Mars last night with my scope. It rises in the northeastern sky. You
> won't see it til 2 or 230am right now (cause of the NY haze). I Could easily
> see the ice cap through my scope.  It's dim til it rises above the haze.
>
> Was looking at Jupiter, Neptune and Uranus too. Great red spot was visible
> and was watching 1 of the moons pass in front of the planet (Jupiter).  Real
> nice.
>
> If it's clear this weekend I'll be out there. If anyone wants to join me
> just let me know.
>
> Niph
>
>
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone. Cause I'm cool.
>
> On Aug 26, 2009, at 10:04 AM, Rob <[address removed]> wrote:
>
> Hi:
>
> I am not sure when this meetup actually meets up, but here is some
> information about a hoax email that is circulating regarding Mars appearing
> as big as the moon August 27, 2009.  This is from earthsky.org.
>
> Fwd: SEE TWO MOONS ON 27TH AUGUST. 2009 Should be spectacular! Truly a once
> in a lifetime experience!
>
> It?s happening again. People are clamoring for information about an amazing
> spectacle involving the red planet Mars. An email is circulating suggesting
> that ? on August 27, 2009 ? Mars will appear as large as a full moon in
> Earth?s sky. The version I saw actually included a powerpoint presentation,
> suggesting that Mars and Earth?s moon will appear as a ?double moon? in late
> August 2009.
>
> It sounds amazing! Can it possibly be true?
>
> No. It can?t. The email is a hoax. It has circulated every summer since
> 2003. Mars can never appear as large as a full moon as seen from Earth, and
> Mars will not even be at its brightest in August of 2009.
>
> In fact, in August of 2009 Mars is a relatively inconspicuous dot of reddish
> light in our eastern predawn sky. It did appear near the moon this month ? a
> waning crescent moon visible before dawn ? on the morning of August 16. That
> waning moon might have made Mars slightly more conspicuous than it would
> have otherwise been. Now the moon has moved on in its orbit around Earth,
> leaving Mars behind, and unless you know exactly what you are looking for,
> you probably will have trouble finding Mars for the rest of this month.
>
> Ah, Mars. World of dreams and visions. Mars is the world orbiting one step
> outward from Earth?s orbit. This world is slightly smaller than Earth ? but
> slightly larger than Earth?s moon. Mars is also much much farther away than
> Earth?s moon. It?s hard to comprehend what little specks the planets and
> moons are in contrast to the vastness of space, but let me put it this way.
> Earth?s moon is about a light-second away. Traveling at 186,000 miles per
> second, light bouncing from the moon?s surface takes about a second to reach
> us here on Earth. Meanwhile, light from Mars takes much much longer to reach
> Earth ? from several minutes to about 20 minutes ? with the difference being
> the result of Earth?s and Mars? motions around the sun. In other words, when
> Mars is on the same side of the sun as Earth, its distance from us is less
> than when it?s on the far side of the sun from us.
>
> The moon is much closer than Mars, and that?s why we see the moon as a
> bright disk in our sky. Meanwhile ? to the eye ? Mars never appears as
> anything but a ?star.?
>
> So how did this rumor of Mars-as-big-and-brig­ht-as-the-moon get started? It
> started with an actual event, in 2003. On August 27 of that year, Earth and
> Mars came very slightly closer than they?d been in nearly 60,000 years. Our
> two worlds, center-to-center, were about 35 million miles apart ? just over
> three light-minutes apart. The last people to come so close to Mars were
> Neanderthals. Astronomy writers like me had a field day that year, talking
> about Mars at its closest. Was it a spectacular sight? Yes! It looked like a
> dot of flame in the night sky. But was Mars as big and bright as the moon,
> even at its closest in 2003? Never.
>
> What is happening on August 27 of 2009? Nothing, really. By coincidence,
> there will be a reddish star near the moon on August 27, the star Antares in
> the constellation Scorpius. The name Antares or Ant-ares means ?rival of
> Mars.? Antares is sometimes called Mars? rival because both Antares and Mars
> appear reddish, and because the planet Mars sometimes appears brighter than
> this star.
>
> This August, though, Antares appears brighter than Mars does in Earth?s sky.
> Will some people look outside on August 27 ? see Antares near the moon ? and
> think this reddish star is Mars?
>
> Probably.
>
> And so the legend continues
> Rob Widham
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 5:05 PM, Christine Rossi <[address removed]>
> wrote:
> thank you for the info; I kind of thought it was Venus; can't wait to have a
> telescope meeting somewhere; can't get on my roof anymore and really, really
> miss looking at the sky.
>
> Christine
>
> --- On Tue, 8/25/09, Niphon <[address removed]> wrote:
>
> From: Niphon <[address removed]>
>
> Subject: Re: [astronomy-121] wasnt mars supposed to be around in August?
> To: [address removed]
> Date: Tuesday, August 25, 2009, 4:24 PM
>
> Hi
>
> It's probably Venus. Mars rises like 130
> Am or so. Visible after 2 or so. Venus rises later on. It's really bright ad
> you describe.
>
> Niphon
>
> Sent from my iPhone. Cause I'm cool.
>
> On Aug 25, 2009, at 4:11 PM, Christine Rossi <[address removed]> wrote:
>
> there's a very, very bright planet in the East in the pre-dawn hours; is
> that Mars or Venus?
>
> Christine
>
> --- On Thu, 8/20/09, Rob <[address removed]> wrote:
>
> From: Rob <[address removed]>
> Subject: Re: [astronomy-121] wasnt mars supposed to be around in August?
> To: [address removed]
> Date: Thursday, August 20, 2009, 3:02 PM
>
> That was when everyone said that Mars would be the size of the moon in the
> earth's sky. Thank God we have science to counter these urban legends!
> Tonight, Mars should be near the moon still, even in Asia!  May have changed
> a bit in the past 4 days but not by too much!
>
> If you?re up before dawn on Sunday morning ? the morning of August 16 ? you
> can use the waning crescent moon to locate the planet Mars. Look for Mars
> about two finger-widths to the moon?s right or upper right. (Hold your two
> fingers an arm length away.)
>
> http://www.earths...­
>
> On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 1:49 PM, Mike D <[address removed]> wrote:
> Jawad,
>
> You are probably reading a very exaggerated description of the opposition
> from Aug. 2003.
>
>  http://www.snopes...­
>
> Right now the best planet to see is probably Jupiter, which should be easy
> to pick out if you look towards the south at night time.
>
> -Mike Durkin
>
> Jawad wrote:
> I am currently vacationing in Asia and I dont see mars at all. From what I
> read, mars was supposed to be the brightest object in the night sky and even
> visible at daytime all over the world. Does anyone know what happened? Is it
> visible in NYC?
>
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