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Re: [atheists-8] Christian Fundamentalism & The Current State of the Union?

From: Jamie
Sent on: Sunday, October 19, 2008 9:17 PM
I have been reading all of the back and forth and what I can't understand is how angry some people appear to be.  I say "some" because it is obvious that certain people are trying to have real conversations while others are just trying to start senseless arguments.  It's great if you want to play devil's advocate but I wish it was more constructive and not just a blatant attack on others in the group.  


--- On Sun, 10/19/08, Joy <[address removed]> wrote:

> From: Joy <[address removed]>
> Subject: Re: [atheists-8] Christian Fundamentalism & The Current State of the Union?
> To: [address removed]
> Date: Sunday, October 19, 2008, 5:42 PM
> That was me that wrote about the silver-bird story. I've
> always  
> remembered it as being in the book of Job, but it really
> doesn't  
> matter which one it's in; it is right there in the
> bible just where  
> von Daniken said it was.
> 
> Fascinating that non-educated Jews aren't supposed to
> study it by  
> themselves. Wonder how the rabbis explain it to them...
> Anybody know?
> 
> Joy
> 
> On Oct 19, 2008, at 5:29 PM, Dan wrote:
> 
> > Hi Abby,
> >
> > It looks like we share more than just ancestry. I am
> interested in  
> > the technical sides of digital photography, image
> processing,  
> > animation, and computer graphics. I teach / research 
> CS in Texas  
> > State University and have been lucky enough to get a
> generous grant  
> > from the university to establish a multimedia lab with
> "all" the  
> > equipment and software (e.g., Maya) that a
> "nerd" like me would  
> > wish to have.
> >
> > Your web site is interesting, I did not have time to
> explore much,  
> > maybe later.
> >
> > As for the misconceptions here is an example:
> > I read _Chariots of the Gods_ by Erik von Daniken a
> long time ago,  
> > and the main thing I remember from it is the passage
> in Job (I  
> > looked it up in the King James version) about Jehovah
> coming in a  
> > silver bird that landed on wheels and spit fire.
> >
> > I think that the person who wrote it refers to the
> "Merkava Story"  
> > "Maase Ha'Merkava" which appears in
> Ezekiel (and not in Job).
> >
> > This is a very interesting story and for example
> "simple" (that is  
> > non-educated) Jewish people are bared from studying it
> without the  
> > guidance of an educated Rabbai.
> >
> > Take Care,
> >
> > Dan
> >
> > On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 12:51 PM, Abby
> <[address removed]>  
> > wrote:
> > Hi Dan,
> >
> > I'm curious about what misconceptions about the
> bible you've  
> > noticed in
> > recent remarks. :-)  I'm also Jewish by birth,
> apathetic and  
> > agnostic by
> > choice, but I was born in America and never read the
> bible.  The bible
> > doesn't interest me at all.  As a historical text,
> I think it's  
> > deeply and
> > inherently flawed (like any text from before the
> Industrial Age, it's
> > colored by opinions, and was never meant to be used as
> a historical  
> > record).
> >
> > I have some relatives who are Lebavitcha/Hassidic,­ and
> to me, their
> > religious notions are very, very, very strange.
> >
> > ~Abby
> >
> >
> > From: [address removed]
> [mailto:[address removed]] On  
> > Behalf Of Dan
> > Sent: Sunday, October 19,[masked]:58 AM
> > To: [address removed]
> > Subject: Re: [atheists-8] Christian Fundamentalism
> & The Current  
> > State of
> > the Union?
> >
> >
> > I enjoyed reading the bible. My interest, however, was
> limited to  
> > enjoying
> > the bible as a piece of art and as a document with
> historical  
> > value. In any
> > case, due to my love of reading the bible I became
> relatively  
> > knowledgeable
> > in biblical study. As such, I noticed a lot of
> misconceptions about  
> > the
> > bible in some recent remarks.  In fact my grade in
> biblical study  
> > in the
> > matriculation exam is higher than my grades in math
> and science  
> > which were
> > and are my current occupation, passion, and hobby.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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