Re: [atheists-212] AIDS walk

From: Louis Chino B.
Sent on: Wednesday, October 5, 2011 4:29 PM

Was following this waiting for the shoe to drop. I knew it would, pinups for Ron Paul? End of discussion.
Chino

On Oct 5,[masked]:09 PM, "Juliet Annerino" <[address removed]> wrote:
> Justin and Brian,
>
> I assure you I'm a real live person and not any kind of "bot". I'm just
> being a true skeptic and questioning the status quo, doing some research.
> How about you? And how does being an atheist have anythingto do with Dr.
> Duesberg's work? Have you read anything at all from his site?
>
> Thanks for the nice compliment on my sentence structure. I did put a nice
> bit of time and concentration to communicate effectively as I can!
>
> Tell me this: if a scientist is "discredited" by charlatans, does that make
> the scientist a charlatan?
>
> Unfortunately, I'm too busy now, making a deadline on another project (
> www.PInUps4RonPaul.com, if you're curious) to write any more about this
> topic. Stay safe, stay skeptical!
>
> As Always, Thank you for Thinking,
> Juliet
>
> On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 3:05 PM, Justin Roff-Marsh <[address removed]
>> wrote:
>
>> I'm confused too. The structure of her sentences suggests intelligence: but
>> not their content.
>>
>> Justin
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 2:52 PM, Sned <[address removed]> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm starting to think Juliet is a spam-bot. I certainly don't believe
>>> she's a real atheist, because anyone with any level of skepticism would see
>>> that Duesberg is a discredited charlatan.
>>>
>>> And now may I unsubscribe?
>>>
>>> Brian
>>>
>>>
>>> On Oct 5, 2011, at 2:42 PM, Juliet Annerino wrote:
>>>
>>> Justin,
>>>
>>> Good for you, doing some research on this! Sounds like you are right and
>>> this is just more alarmist nonsense to keep us occupied while they play much
>>> more dangerous games with our health, like prescribing the latest chemical
>>> versions of drugs like AZT (once soundly denied approval by even the FDA for
>>> its poisonous, indiscriminate human cell-killing abilities). Let's get back
>>> to researching real issues! Thanks for taking the time to think, reason and
>>> learn.
>>>
>>> Ever Truth-seeking,
>>> Juliet
>>>
>>> ps: Sharing the truth is great, too, isn't it?
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Justin Roff-Marsh <
>>> [address removed]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Juliet
>>>>
>>>> I've Googled the term, but find no meaningful reference to it.
>>>>
>>>> As far as I'm aware, a patent is, by it's very nature, restrictive --
>>>> meaning that the phase I quote is tautological (hence my alarmist claim.)
>>>>
>>>> I am aware of a 'non-restrictive patent', but that's a special case, not
>>>> the norm.
>>>>
>>>> Correct me if I'm wrong.
>>>>
>>>> Justin
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 2:25 PM, Juliet Annerino <[address removed]
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Well, Justin, you might want to find out what this term, "restrictive
>>>>> patent" actually means, before you brush off the article and label it
>>>>> "alarmist". Kind of tragic how words have very specific meanings that can
>>>>> affect people's lives, but it's true.
>>>>>
>>>>> The way I see it, though, this is just a smoke screen, even a "red
>>>>> herring" to keep us from looking at the far bigger picture, a view that
>>>>> questions for instance, why these pernicious drugs are being prescribed to
>>>>> people most likely suffering from other causes that might be more easily
>>>>> (and less painfully) resolved.
>>>>>
>>>>> Back to generic vs. name brand, though...Of course the huge
>>>>> pharmaceutical industry has plenty invested in pushing the highest priced
>>>>> drugs it possibly can on patients. For more info on just how much profit
>>>>> they are happy to make, see here<http://noedb.org/library/features/25-shocking-facts-about-the-pharmaceutical-industry>.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This issue of generic vs. latest brand name is actually minor in the
>>>>> bigger scheme of health issues and AIDS in particular. It's kind of like
>>>>> watching a jackal and a wolf fighting over the carcass of a lamb, the jackal
>>>>> being generic drugs, the wolf, brand-name and the lamb, well, that might be
>>>>> you, though I assure you it will not be me.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you care about your health and the health of others, I urge you to
>>>>> check this out: http://www.duesberg.com/index.html There are many other
>>>>> sources there to read through, too.
>>>>>
>>>>> OH, and Justin, if you go to the page of other links you can find many
>>>>> other sources. I personally met the woman who heads
>>>>> www.AliveAndWell.org with her husband, Robin Scovill. They are all very
>>>>> healthy people despite her being "diagnosed with AIDS" due to a positive HIV
>>>>> test, many years ago.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hey, I just saw that there is a showing of a movie with Ed Asner about
>>>>> this issue coming up in November. Hey, Skeptics, why don't we all go and
>>>>> then we can make an educated decision based on more information! Here's the
>>>>> info: http://forums.questioningaids.com/showpost.php?p=45437
>>>>>
>>>>> Let's make this an event! What do you think?
>>>>>
>>>>> For Truth,
>>>>> Juliet
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 12:35 PM, Justin Roff-Marsh <
>>>>> [address removed]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Alarmist article.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I wonder how a 'restrictive patent' differs from a patent of the
>>>>>> common-garden variety?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Justin
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 11:56 AM, Phil Williams <[address removed]>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Interesting timing. She *did* write her rant before this story broke.
>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> According to leaked documents from the talks, U.S. negotiators are
>>>>>>> seeking to impose a set of restrictive intellectual property laws that would
>>>>>>> help American drug companies secure long-term monopolies overseas. The
>>>>>>> result? Higher prices for drugs. That's good for corporate profits, but
>>>>>>> disastrous for relief programs like PEPFAR that depend on cheaper generic
>>>>>>> medications to treat the global poor.****
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/05/aids-trade-regulations-patent-law_n_994940.html
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