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The Atlanta Hungarian Meetup Group Message Board › Budapest, Georgia

Budapest, Georgia

Ron F.
user 8553425
Atlanta, GA
Post #: 1
Hello,

I hope a lot of the material in this note will interest
many. About a year ago your group became aware of a local
Hungarian community, now largely vanished, which founded a
village named Budapest about an hour west of Atlanta over a
century ago.

The remnants of Georgia's Budapest and related developments
lie within Alabama-bordered Haralson County, in which area I
settled from out of state in the early 1990s. For the past
several years I have been active in the county historical
society (Web site at: http://hchistory.com/...­ ) and more
recently in the historical society of a very extant small
city closely associated with the history of Budapest called
Tallapoosa, (Web site at: http://possumsnout.co...­ )

I serve as Publicity Chair for the former society and
Webmaster for both societies.

We thank those of you who participated in the recent cleanup
of the Budapest Cemetery, in which sadly I could not take part.

Broad, simplified history states that the large central
European immigration to the United States in the late 19th
century converged on the burgeoning industrial economy of
Chicago and other growing cities in the Midwest, which makes
the events in our county surprising to most Americans and
historically significant, too.

An added PERSONAL reason for my interest is that I am the
son of post-WWII European immigrants to the United States.
More yet, my late mother grew up in Austria, which shares
many cultural touchpoints with Hungary. Her late sister
lived in Vienna and would visit Hungary, taking mother along
on one occasion. Sadly, mother was gravely ill for a very
long time and spent these last difficult years here with me,
starting shortly after I settled. I was glad that during our
time together we managed to visit some of the remains of
Budapest, Georgia in the late 1990's.

As I explained almost a year ago now to an inquiry from
"Nepszabadsag" with a long e-mail note:

Joseph Conley has an Irish family name. But since this is
America, it is not surprising that he is also a descendent
of both Magyar and Slovak settlers here. We rely on him to
do most of the work keeping the memory of Budapest ET ALIA
alive. He lives in Ohio, but visits his elderly great-aunt
(maiden name Estavanko, SIC.) here for one week each year.

Last year I hoped we might do something special, like make
a tiny festival featuring Hungarian food and music. Sadly,
everyone was much too busy to make it happen...

If you have an interest in the Hungarian colony here, and
might want to help us celebrate its history, I'll point out
that the Haralson County Historical Society is hosting a
franchised Smithsonian Museum on Mainstreet exhibit called
"Key Ingredients" only a year from now. Read more about it
at: http://keyingredients...­ We would be only
too delighted if you could contribute knowledge about
Hungarian cuisine to honor the people who enjoyed it here
when the Budapest colony was thriving. The year 2010 also
marks the 150th anniversary of the incorporation of the City
of Tallapoosa, which is located only a few miles west of
Georgia's Budapest and was its intimate partner, hosting such
viticulture-allied industry as bottle-making. The Tallapoosa
Historical Society ( http://possumsnout.co...­ ) would be only
too delighted if you had an interest in their forthcoming
celebration, plans for which are underway now.

One year I had encouraged Joe Conley to help me take a
superior photograph of the colony's historical marker for
the collection then being built by the Carl Vinson Institute
of Government, by assembling next to the sign as many living
colony descendents as possible. It was then that I learned
of the sign's destruction and removal. This sad development,
which you have discussed here, is a key reason I post now.

If you don't care how or why the sign met its fate, you need
not read further. But those who want to see it replaced with
a new sign might want to know how likely it is such a loss
could happen again.

No one claimed credit for the act. Joe told me it took place
in two stages. First, the sign was struck down, Then, it was
carted away. I did not ask about the length of the interval
between the two events. Stipulating the accuracy of Joe's
report, these are the only objective facts. What follows is
speculation.

The English have Sherlock Holmes, the Belgians Hercule
Poirot, and perhaps the Americans have Lieutenant Columbo. I
don't know the name of any fictional Hungarian detective,
although I recall some controversy in Hungary when a Cold
War era television show featuring some sort of inspector was
revived long after the Russians had left. His frequent
nemesis was a Catholic priest and perhaps someone here
remembers details. I suppose the people who originally ran
"Nepszabadsag" enjoyed the series! But I digress...

Small signs here, like those marking road names at rural
intersections, are arbitrarily removed more often than one
would like. An article in the local newspaper about a decade
ago took note of this, and an official quoted a replacement
cost of $12 for such a sign, not to mention the cost of
installation labor.

A friend of peace once observed that one should never first
attribute to malice what can easily be explained by error.

It is possible that a bad driver struck down the Budapest
sign and quietly drove away without telling anyone. On
another occasion, I lost wired telephone service at home
when a truck driver "fell asleep" at the wheel and smashed
into the telephone company "DLC" box in my neighborhood.
This box was larger than a refrigerator and far off the
roadway. When the telephone company replaced the box, it
doubled the distance it sat off the road to make allowance
for local driving "skill". Perhaps you are glad to learn my
own buidings sit up on a hill 50 yards from any roadways!

Of course, alone, a traffic accident does not explain why
the struck-down Budapest sign was eventually hauled away.
Perhaps someone wanted a souvenir and helped himself when he
saw no one would make the effort to repair the sign. At the
least, that much metal has economic value as scrap.

In discussing metal plaques for historic buildings in
Tallapoosa during another season, a historical society
member there expressed anxiety about possible sign theft, on
account of the value of the scrap metal. This led me to
extract the following information:

"The soaring cost of copper thefts" (BBC New, 4 Dec. 2006)
at http://news.bbc.co.uk...­ writes in part:
"Thefts of copper are costing UK firms millions of pounds.
The soaring copper price this year has seen a doubling of
related thefts on the railways... Gas pipes, copper or
bronze statues, even church lightning conductors have
been ripped out for the sake of the scrap value."

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Ron F.
user 8553425
Atlanta, GA
Post #: 2
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Through the end of 2004, copper was under a dollar a pound.
But in less than 18 months, it almost quadrupled in price.
It has been falling during the second half of this year and
now is about a couple bucks per pound. (Aluminum has fallen
about a third and is now about a buck per pound.) From some
historical marker theft reports online, I've learned that
Michigan has used a 200-pound 3/4"x42"x54" aluminum marker
(metal-only cost now $200ish) and Illinois has used a 75-pound
bronze markers (metal-only cost now $150ish, down from $300ish.)

Aside from scavangers, it is possible that a routine roadside
cleanup crew simply removed the felled sign without telling
anyone. If you think this is implausible, please read the
following one-paragraph story.

When I settled here, I contacted the power co-op to supply my
rural holding with electricity. As I could not be present
when the co-op planted and wired their power access pole, I
arranged to converse with their agent on my land so that no
mistake would be made. I said I wanted a new pole planted in
my ground, but that I did not want them to molest an old
pole I would put to other uses. Sadly, when I returned to my
land after they had done their work, I saw that they had cut
down the other pole, contrary to my orders. This act was all
the more remarkable because I had already mounted and wired
a telephone to the cut pole! The person who had cut the pole
down did not fail to see the telephone wire, because it was
neatly cut with a knife, rather than torn as the pole was
felled. At least they did not haul away the old pole!

There were five historical markers in the entire county
before the loss of the Budapest sign reduced that number to
four. Most (or all?) of the others are near multiple
dwellings and were one damaged, such an event would likely
be noticed much more quickly, and by more people. Perhaps
this also means a felled sign would not be left so long that
it would disappear. Many years ago now, the State of Georgia
used to repair damaged signs, but I believe this facility
was closed as an economy measure and maintenance now depends
on the action of private parties. The long-tenured Georgia
Historical Society in Savannah currently holds authority to
approve the erection of NEW historical signs. I think the
issue of sign upkeep has fallen through the cracks - after
all, they are sturdy and "built to last"! And I bet not a
few people mistakenly assume the historical signs are under
the aegis of the same people who take care of other public
signage, like directional and ordinance notice signs.

All this is not to say there is no intentional vandalism in
our county. Another year, the county school system suffered
about $10,000 in such damage from a single incident, and a
tourist attraction in Tallapoosa was also subject to great
vandalism. In recent years, a farmer lost a barn to fire. It
was alleged the fire was due to arson motivated by the fact
that the farmer had contracted to allow a cell phone tower
to be erected on his land.

Is Haralson County worse than other places? I will not
answer that question directly. Instead I will quote some
experience from an urban area in which I spent the childhood
segment of my minority. Brooklyn is a part of New York City.
Using Google to search for "Brooklyn" generates almost
exactly as many hits as when looking for "Budapest"! And
there was even a recent scholarly conference held in the
latter city which compared the rise of the two places.

Here then follows some vandalism history from Brooklyn:

Excerpts from files linked from:
http://www.empire.sta...­

"During the first half of the Twentieth Century, Prospect
Park was the place of commemoration for the [US] Revolution
in Brooklyn... the park itself contains the only preserved
Revolutionary War [1776-1783] battlefield in any major city...

"On August 27, 1895 the Marylanders Monument, designed by
Stanford White, was placed at the base of Lookout Hill near
the lake... It was rehabilitated by the State of Maryland in
1991 but has since been vandalized.

"[Multiple] ...markers graced the park before they were
stolen. Under pressure from Charles M. Higgins and the Kings
County Historical Society, the Society of Old Brooklynites
and other patriotic groups, Park Commissioner Raymond V.
Ingersoll in 1916 created a commemoration scheme which
included signs on iron posts that identified important
locations and told the story of the battle...

"'History of Flatbush' (1842) states that [the significant
Dongan Oak tree] still existed at that time, and that a "red
free stone monument" commemorated the battle, although it
was defaced and illegible... [Sadly, the original 1860s park
designers themselves] ...may have pulled up the stump of the
Dongan Oak...

"[A new] Dongan Oak Monument and plaque were dedicated on
November 25, 1922 (Thanksgiving) and sponsored by the St.
Nicholas Society of New York The plaque was stolen in 1971
or 72 and the eagle in 1974. Replacements were dedicated on
June 6, 1991 and stolen in 1994. The current objects date to
1994...

"On May 22, 1926, the 'Women of 76' chapter of the Daughters
of the American Revolution unveiled a plaque near the Battle
Pass plaque honoring the contribution of women... These were
stolen, too. Two cannons which were seized from British
prisoners at Saratoga and Yorktown were placed in the nearby
Parade Grounds, and were reported missing in 1935.

"In 1973 just as increases in scrap metal prices brought
vandalism to a crescendo, the Borough President's Brooklyn
Bicentennial Commission recommended replacing all stolen
signs and plaques..."

And speaking of history, political violence is no trivial
part of the more squalid heritage of our Haralson County. In
doing some spadework for a new county history book which
might one day appear, I was disappointed to learn that about
140 years ago the most infamous American terrorist
organization - which has brought shame to the United States
the world over - was first brought to the attention of the
American people by Congressional hearings in which activity
in this very county was prominently highlighted. As recently
as a generation ago, criminal conviction of local
organization adherents was featured in the national news. I
regret to remark that this organization was once widespread
in the United States, during which period it was in no small
part preoccupied with the persecution of immigrants in
general, and Catholics in particular (among others).

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Ron F.
user 8553425
Atlanta, GA
Post #: 3
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When the county was carved out of confiscated Indian lands,
now much of two whole centuries ago, the local production of
alcoholic beverages was common and accepted. The following
appeared at the very end of an anonymous first-person memoir
published at the county seat in a newspaper about a century
ago:

"In the days before Buchanan was built, Joseph Goggans kept a
country store across the river, and made Peach and Apple
brandy. This is not a reflection on his memory, for in those
days no one was crticised or ostracized on account of drinking
or dealing in liquor. Some of the best citizens made whiskey,
and all drank it."

But as many Georgians know, attitudes were very different
later on, a century ago, and climaxed in the statewide
alcohol prohibition law which went into force in 1908. The
civic records of Buchanan from those days feature the
proceedings of the municipal court, which testified that
"drunk and disorderly" was a not unpopular local
"recreational activity."

Abuse of alcohol and other psychoactive substances is not
uncommon here now, and some local residents preach that the
liberty to create, distribute and use them is intolerable.
This is a potential motive for vandalizing a historical
marker that in part recognizes the important wine-making
industry that residents of Budapest and the other colony
villages created.

But I should also note that there is at least one current
enterpreneur who is working to resurrect winemaking in
Haralson County based on local grape varieties. This
operation has not been subject to criminal insult as best I
know, unless you count the controversial seizure of an
efigee by her city police the proprietor of this business
had displayed at her private house.

Some of you have learned that, long decades after its
congregation had disappeared, the colony's St. Joseph church
was squatted by "moonshiners" who made distilled drink. One
story attributes the elimination of the church building by
fire to the clumsiness of some moonshiners using it, but I
suppose it is also possible that persons objecting to their
activity could have found it expedient to instead demolish
the building themselves. Unfortunately, history here records
the destruction of other (actively used) minority sect
church buildings for reasons unrelated to alcohol, not
implausibly passionate theological motivations.

To make light of any wild driving and clandestine alcohol
production here, I'll observe that while the recent "Dukes
of Hazard" feature film ultimately derives from a real-life
story set in another US federal state, its antecedent US
television series a generation ago (of the same name) was
set in the mythical "Hazard County", about an hour's
distance from Atlanta. If you note the resemblance to our
Haralson County, I'll point out that "Hazard" and "Haralson"
differ by MORE than one letter! Besides, the current mayor
of our county seat was merely an extra player while the
series shot in Georgia, and not a headliner! <G>

Because of my background in digital and telecom
technologies, a key motivation I've had in particpating in
the local historial societies was to promote these methods
in a county which was slow to embrace even simple written
materials of any sort. (The late Hungarian polymath and
computer pioneer Johnny von Neumann would approve, even if
his eidetic memory personally spared him much of the need
for record-keeing we poor mortals suffer.) After all, doing
history is about finding, validaring, archiving, digesting,
editing and publishing information about events, largely
through abstract recordings.

Even absent success in helping all people develop SKILL
using these metholdogies, such promotion serves the useful
function of making more community leaders AWARE of how
"bits are replacing atoms" and the impact this has for the
production and distribution of goods and services in many
economic sectors.

Among these are the tourism industry, including that segment
which leverages local history. The biggest impact is that
the astronomical improvement in the ability to communicate
experience through media, rather than direct visitation, is
forcing institutions like museums to totally rethink their
mission and business methods, and even face which aspects of
their traditional roles are now doomed, maybe quite soon.

One consequence for something like a historical marker is
this. If visiting a site historically worthy of marking by a
monument remains germane in itself, one can still inquire
whether the value added in the age before microelectronics
by such markers per se would not now be better delivered,
and at less cost, by other means.

Cell phone infrastructure has indeed expanded here - despite
any objections. Many cell phones can now neasure their
geodetic position by means like tower triangulation and GPS
and also retrieve extensive naterial on demand from the
Internet, far more than might be visibly marked on any
monument. Not being subject to the outrages of extreme
weather (not to mention bad drivers, thieves, and vandals)
such information need not be recorded in cast bronze and so
might ALSO include sounds, color imagery (even that which
moves) as well as text - the latter even in as many
languages as one pleases, for example Magyar and Slovak, as
well as English and Spanish. And it is much cheaper and
faster to correct and otherwise update electronic records
than huge pieces of metal located far away.

While the ability to electronically locate historically
significant positions on earth (according to as many
alternate "authorities" as one wishes) might obviate the
need for ANY physical marker for someone who is suitably
equipped and "skilled", the current ability of typical
cellphones to take and transmit photos makes it alternately
possible to forgo electronic geolocation. This is because a
photo of a simple code appearing on an austere physical
marker can be e-mailed to an Internet-attached indexing
engine which can retrieve the germane materials that way.
Even more intricate similar methods are under active
investigation, such as those described by The New York Times.

But electronic geolocation makes other things possible as
well. For example, it may not be economical, much less
aesthetic, to monumentally mark every important individual
location on something like a battlefield, (or even just a
village) long decades after the original physical artifacts
which were present at the historic event are gone. But
electronically guided walks can be punctuated by as many
virtual waypoints as one desires, at modest incremental
cost.

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Ron F.
user 8553425
Atlanta, GA
Post #: 4
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It might be argued that given the relatively higher digital
illiteracy among those older than the "Baby Boomers" - as
well as among people of many ages with sensory handicaps -
such people might be disadvantaged if one aggressively
leverages such new, if common, technology. But one should
balance this against the prosthetic capacity of electronic
technology to do things like turn text into speech for those
whose eyesight is much worse than for the general population.

So this line of argument begs the question of whether we can
forsee the end of traditional historical markers, and WHEN.
Of course, this is not something a small group seeking to
replace a single missing marker is best equipped to address,
but it is something all those actively interested in history
should seriously contemplate.

For me, I am disappointed that when I visit Georgia's
Budapest today I cannot hear one Magyar word pronounced,
much less a whole song sung; I cannot see the image of one
farmer's weathered face, nor the figure of his sturdy horse,
nor that of the vines he lovingly husbanded, nor the design
of the beautiful embroidery his wife crafted with such skill
and care. With a virtual electronic marker, I could.

(My apologies to those offended by a construct which lists
the woman after the horse, but some allege only cowboys love
horses more than the stereotypical Hungarian. Is this true?)

I should point out that Joe Conley continues to enlarge his
detailed research of the Hungarian colony. I have encouraged
him to please encode it - all of it - digitally. But so far,
we have only archived copies of some of it in paper form at
the Historic Courthouse in Buchanan, which is the handsome
headquarters of the county historical society, as well as
other attractions.

In recent years we have begun to digitally scan works which
report on the colony if copyright issues make this possible,
and publish same online. You can even see photos of a few of
Joe's ancestors from the days the colony was still vital.

"Link rot" of course eats away at our Web site, and in light
of this group's "discovery" of Georgia's Budapest, I will
now audit our Web pages related to this topic to mend such
decay.

If you have ever read the book "The Millionaire Next Door,"
co-written by a Georgia professor, you might have noticed
that Hungarian-Americans include a millionaire household
fraction very far above that of most any other ethnic group
in this country. But as best we know, none of the old local
Hungarians ever became famously wealthy. Indeed, I'm sure
nearly all suffered disaster when the 1908 prohibition act
destroyed the wine-making industry they had labored so hard
to build. No doubt this made the happy task of documenting
their history here before it was much forgotten a largely
unaffordable luxury to these unfortunate struggling peole.

On the other hand, Mr. Ralph Spencer, "The Connecticut
Yankee in King Cotton's Court" as I call him, whose vision
the Hungarian colony first was, continued in fame and
fortune, even after his southeastern initiatives, including
all of his work in our county, met unhappy ends. A bell he
donated a century ago still rings in Tallapoosa's Episcopal
church.

Although Spencer is forgotten now, in his day this one-time
factory boy was among the most famous living Americans, with
his biography appearing in the same volume as the likes of
Roosevelt, Vanderbilt and Astor. Curiously, when Spencer
lived in New York City in his latter years, his family would
lodge in a hotel on the very block-street I knew well as a
boy from my mother's service to a stately mansion there. I
even attended college in the New England town his first
American ancestor dwelt.

Do you think these many ghosts patiently waited for me to
encounter Ralph Spencer here as well? I have read that
typical Hungarians are very disinclined to go in for
superstitious speculation, and while we share that in
common, I could not resist this mysterious tease all the
same, given all the people Lugosi Bela managed to entertain
during his film career!

In the hope that, even at this late date, one of Spencer's
descendents might possibly share something of interest to us
if found, I had undertaken a search for them which I was
obliged to suspend earlier this year. A 1966 obituary, when
read, is likely to reveal some such people still among us.

I hope you are persuaded Haralson County has quite a bit of
color and might find the opportunity to visit us here soon.
The county Chamber of Commerce provides an aid to tourists
at: http://visitharalson....­

Ron Feigenblatt

Dr. R. I. Feigenblatt
Haralson County Historical Society
Tallapoosa Historical Society

P.S. I am Polish nationality on the paternal side. Should I
find my way to one of your meetings one day, I guess an old
proverb advises me to bring along a weapon and a drink, to
honor the traditional intercourse between "brothers". Thus I
sign off for now in the memory of our (almost-forgotten)
brief total personal union under the Angevins.
Ron F.
user 8553425
Atlanta, GA
Post #: 6
Hello,

I've heard back from Joe Conley, our informal HCHS Budapest, Georgia historian and descendent of the colony. He now has some plans for his annual visit here. I quote it exactly immediately below. You can reach him directly via e-mail at joeandbarb@peoplepc.com

-Ron

ENCLOSURE from Joe Conley

From the looks of my calendar I will be visiting Haralson County the last week of May (Memorial day week) this year as my great-aunt will be turning 90 and I would like to be there.

I received some photos via email from a member of OLPH Church. They had a clean-up and then held an outdoor Mass in Budapest from what I understand.

This year marks the 100th anniversary of the Nitra Cemetery (-aka- Estavanko Cemetery) as the first burial occured in 1909. All graves are identified by a marker of some sort other than 3 unmarked graves. I feel strongly that these are the burial sites of Michael Bunka's family, an early Slovak settler of Nitra.

Per my grandmother, his wife Mattie and their two sons were drowned in a flash flood at Beech Creek and buried there. He left the area shortly thereafter and returned up north (Pennsylvania?) it is believed.

It is blustery, light snow and 18 this morning. Next week are midweek high will be 8 degress with a low of -8 degrees. Oh....how I miss the south!
Ron F.
user 8553425
Atlanta, GA
Post #: 7
Hello,

As I mentioned above, a year from this month, here in Haralson County, under an hour west of Atlanta via Interstate 20, we will celebrate local historical food customs. You can read more about our preparations at http://keyingredients...­ which are undertaken with the cooperation of the famous Smithsonian Institution.

Because of the historical role of the Budapest colony in our county, Hungarian cuisine has
a rightful place as part of this special exhibition. To this end, I have now added a new page to the Web site of the Haralson County Historical Society on one of my favorite Hungarian dishes, plum dumplings, here: http://hchistory.com/...­ They were a familiar delight of my childhood years in America, the handiwork of my Austrian-raised mother.

I was especially pleased to recently learn that a modern Hungarian play, A Padlás, introduced a musical paean to this wonderful delicacy, reasonably called simply Szilvásgombóc.

Multiple performances of this work are posted at YouTube, so far unmolested by demand notices that they be withdrawn. Two of them are embedded in our new Web page - along with a link to the publisher pf the play's soundtrack, in the event one can still buy a copy.

I had all but zero knowledge of the Magyar language when I set out to translate the song lyrics to English, so I used the free online engine called Babylon to get me started. Then I leveraged the implicit knowledge that comes from simply being human to guess at the improved rendering now offered on the page. Surely it remains rather defective, and I would be very grateful for any help you might give to improve it!

Thanks for your kind attention to our efforts.

Ron
Haralson County Historical Society
Tallapoosa Historical Society




Kinga S.
user 3127131
Atlanta, GA
Post #: 1
Thank you for your informative memo. Alas, I was not able to participate in the clean-up, but I fondly remember visiting the area several times in the 70's (I remember driving there for the first time on a highway, with my learners permit). My father, Joseph Ertavy, of the Hungarian Cultural Foundation, along with the small Atlanta Hungarian Community at the time, were inspired to lobby for the historical marker to comemmorate Budapest, and the small nearby villages of Tokay and Nyitra. I am sad to hear about the marker's disappearance and want to hear more about how to replace it.
Kinga S.
user 3127131
Atlanta, GA
Post #: 2
The thought of a virtual marker has so much merit. A webpage could link to the Haralson County website and give the history, the stories, the color and sound, even the tastes (some traditional recipes). My husband can help give a website with video and all. We'd just need to collect the stories and accurate histories.
The festival is a great opportunity for a debut.
Ron F.
user 8553425
Atlanta, GA
Post #: 8
We are so grateful for your deep interest and specific suggestions.

It is delightful to become acquainted with you, and make contact with the wonderful legacy of literary scholarship and historical activism your father's life bequeathed us. Forgive my curiosity, but did the Hungarian Cultural Foundation survive your Dad's passing? Any people currently or formerly active in it would be natural partners for the project you propose. And new Web-based material on the Hungarian colony in Haralson County created by your husband could be the first section of its new Website!

As I mentioned in previous postings, Joe Conley has been collecting documentation on the colony over the years and will be visiting us at the end of May. You might like to contact him at joeandbarb-AT-peoplepc.com [change -AT- to @] in advance of his arrival if you'd benefit by spending time with him in person. (As an aside, he works in the healthcare industry like you do, but in administration rather than care per se.) I have never been able to get Joe to join in a teleconference while he is in Ohio.

I think it is wonderful most homes now have broadband connections so that video documentation can
become commonplace. At one point in my career I worked at Bell Laboratories, and I reflected on the heartbreaking irony that a teacher of the deaf should create a world-changing tool that would put the deaf at increased disadvantage to the hearing for so many decades! Happily the sounds on the Internet are now joined by its moving pictures as well for the lion's share of its users in our country.

The Haralson County Historical Society has published a limited number of long online videos (via Google Video) in recent years, but nothing which deals with the Hungarian colony. We would welcome creations of this sort to which we might link, and thank your husband in advance. If one got VERY ambitious, one could imagine producing a small historical re-enactment, complete with costumes, intermixed English and Magyar dialog (with captions, too!) and of course, location shooting! Perhaps you are already aware that at last the Tallapoosa Historical Society has recorded its traditional history pageant as a video (cf. http://possumsnout.co...­ ) in which one scene features Father Francis Janishek negotiating with Ralph Spencer (cf. http://possumsnout.co...­ ).

A prominent member of the Tallapoosa Historical Society (also a town council member) privately expressed interest in Hungarian cuisine to me and she might be an on-site partner with you in the matter of the Key Ingredients event to be exhibited here January next. Also, a faculty member at the University of Georgia campus (SUWG) closest to us, who leads its Center for Public History, is part of our effort. Her name is Dr. Ann McCleary (cf. http://www.westga.edu...­ ). I encourage you to review our latest publicity on Key Ingredients, an online reprint of a local newspaper article we post here: http://hchistory.com/...­

I regret to say that I fear the emerging economic crisis is taking a toll on participation in both of the historical societies I have named and so I am anxious about the consistency of our efforts as we look to developing Key Ingredients. I suppose the buck stops with HCHS President Karen Higgins, whose
contact information sits with that of other Society officers at: http://hchistory.com/...­ .
I encourage you to coordinate with her in the matter of Key Ingredients per se. So far, local people (including Karen herself) have (given me) virtually nothing to post on the wiki-based Web site at http://keyingredients...­ which is its nominal online organizational tool. I would be pleased to make you a wiki member. If you have never used a wiki previously, it is very easy to get started, and could prove useful to you in unrelated activities you pursue in life. Spend four minutes and watch the educational video evangelizing the concept here: http://www.youtube.co...­

As to the matter of the physical marker, we have not ascertained what is needed to replace it. There is a
now a $200 reward for information leading to the recovery of the old marker, which if requited, would surely enable the cheapest method of refabrication. We have not explored alternatives. As I recall, the project price the GHS names for NEW markers is about $5,000 (sic.), about half for scholarship work and half relating to fabrication and on-site deployment.

If you would like to contact me outside of this venue, reach me via HaralsonHistory-AT-gmail.com [change -AT- to @]. Again, we in Haralson County are very grateful for your commitment.

Ron
Ron F.
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Atlanta, GA
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If you would like to contact me outside of this venue, reach me via HaralsonHistory-AT-gmail.com [change -AT- to @]. Again, we in Haralson County are very grateful for your commitment.

Please note that the cited e-mail address above remains that of the Haralson County Historical Society (HCHS). However, I have recently resigned as Publicity Chair for the HCHS and will not answer any mail directed there. I remain the Webmaster of both the HCHS and the Tallapoosa Historical Society (THS), and interested in their progress.

Should you like to write me personally, please instead reach me at:
docdtv-AT-gmail.com [change -AT- to @].

Ron

P.S. The best of luck to the folks active in the Hungarian Playhouse History class! We in HCHS have sometimes tried our hand at historical re-enactments and know it is challenging, even if one is working exclusively with adults!

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