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Limited Government 'Soundbites': Happy Hour Discussion! Nov 12 midtown; 6PM - This is a Happy Hour Party where you will learn to speak succinctly about 6 key political issues and make friends. New and longtime members welcome! Everyone is personally greeted and receives a name tag. Todd Jamesons, A. Oct 15, 2014 8:36 PM
Re: [aynrand-8] Invitation to meet Libertarian candidate for NY Governor - Mi... - David Matt Oct 14, 2014 5:50 PM
Re: [aynrand-8] Invitation to meet Libertarian candidate for NY Governor - Mi... - Preview not available David Oct 14, 2014 5:31 PM
Re: [aynrand-8] Invitation to meet Libertarian candidate for NY Governor - Mi... - Please remove me from this list. thank you. -----Original Message----- From: Matt To: aynrand-8 Sent: Tue, Oct 14,[masked]:32 pm Subject: Re: [aynrand-8] Invitation to meet Libertarian candidate for NY Janice Oct 14, 2014 4:04 PM
Re: [aynrand-8] Invitation to meet Libertarian candidate for NY Governor - Mi... - David Couldn't agree more about Ron Paul Furthermore I'd like to add that I think it's admirable Matt Oct 14, 2014 3:32 PM
Re: [aynrand-8] Invitation to meet Libertarian candidate for NY Governor - Mi... - Preview not available David Oct 14, 2014 2:59 PM
Re: [aynrand-8] Invitation to meet Libertarian candidate for NY Governor - Mi... - You go boy! Matt Oct 14, 2014 2:47 PM
Re: [aynrand-8] Invitation to meet Libertarian candidate for NY Governor - Mi... - And it should be noted that that type of comment probably put us on an automated watchlist. Sent from my Virgin Mobile phone. Marc Gerstein <[address removed]> wrote: Eric Oct 14, 2014 2:40 PM
Re: [aynrand-8] Invitation to meet Libertarian candidate for NY Governor - Mi... - Preview not available David Oct 14, 2014 2:39 PM
Re: [aynrand-8] Invitation to meet Libertarian candidate for NY Governor - Mi... - Marc G. Oct 14, 2014 1:45 PM
Re: [aynrand-8] Invitation to meet Libertarian candidate for NY Governor - Mi... - I agree with this last post We should be coming together and doing things that Rand would want us to do Now, who wants to go out and blow up a housing project with me? Matt Oct 14, 2014 1:04 PM
Re: [aynrand-8] Invitation to meet Libertarian candidate for NY Governor - Mi... - Preview not available David Oct 14, 2014 12:50 PM
Re: [aynrand-8] Invitation to meet Libertarian candidate for NY Governor - Mi... - you mean they're not the same person? go figure . . . Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad Marc G. Oct 14, 2014 10:54 AM
Re: [aynrand-8] Invitation to meet Libertarian candidate for NY Governor - Mi... - Marc We know how you feel about david Wallace but can you share with the group how you feel about former Detroit Pistons c Matt Oct 14, 2014 10:10 AM
Re: [aynrand-8] Invitation to meet Libertarian candidate for NY Governor - Mi... - ken k. Oct 14, 2014 9:19 AM
Re: Fw: Re: [aynrand-8] Invitation to meet Libertarian candidate for NY Governor - Mi... - Government is not "mass hypnosis" -- but I could not possibly respond as clearly and as eloquently to your post as can Ayn Rand. She responds directly to your points, and defines government and its evolution. It is clearly not &qu rna2600 Oct 14, 2014 9:18 AM
Re: Re: [aynrand-8] Invitation to meet Libertarian candidate for NY Governor - Mi... - Marc G. Oct 14, 2014 9:12 AM
Fw: Re: [aynrand-8] Invitation to meet Libertarian candidate for NY Governor - Mi... - TAKE MY NAME AND CONTACT OFF YOUR LIST. I DO NOT AGREE WITH YOU INTELLECTUALLY OR MORALLY. jomarie di i. Oct 14, 2014 8:56 AM
Re: [aynrand-8] Invitation to meet Libertarian candidate for NY Governor - Mi... - Ayn Rand would not vote for a LIBERTARIAN and neither would i . please stop sending these ema jomarie di i. Oct 14, 2014 8:28 AM
Re: [aynrand-8] Invitation to meet Libertarian candidate for NY Governor - Mi... - Better fruit Mango or Apple? I'll await your responses.... Sent from my iPad On Oct 14, 2014, at 12:05 AM, Matt Oct 14, 2014 12:23 AM
Re: [aynrand-8] Invitation to meet Libertarian candidate for NY Governor - Mi... - Preview not available David Oct 14, 2014 12:04 AM
Re: [aynrand-8] Invitation to meet Libertarian candidate for NY Governor - Michael McDermott - My bad I thought Ron Paul was a drag queen. He's running for governor now? Good for him! Sent from my iPad On Oct 12 Matt Oct 12, 2014 5:00 AM
Re: [aynrand-8] Invitation to meet Libertarian candidate for NY Governor - Michael McDermott - You're on the wrong conversation dude! WrestleMania in san Francisco is not even remotely relevant to Ron Paul in state of New York! On Oct 11,[masked]:17 PM, "Matt" < Immanuel G. Oct 12, 2014 3:08 AM
Re: [aynrand-8] Invitation to meet Libertarian candidate for NY Governor - Michael McDermott - Do you guys think The Rock will come back to wrestle Triple H at WrestleMania next year in San Francisco? Sent from my iPhone Matt Oct 11, 2014 5:17 PM
Re: [aynrand-8] Invitation to meet Libertarian candidate for NY Governor - Mi... - ken k. Oct 11, 2014 4:23 PM
Re: [aynrand-8] Invitation to meet Libertarian candidate for NY Governor - Michael McDermott - Government is very real. It oppresses you every day. Nothing about is fictional. I question your motives to troll an email from four months ago. On Oct 11,[masked]:10 PM, "David&q Immanuel G. Oct 11, 2014 4:18 PM
Re: [aynrand-8] Invitation to meet Libertarian candidate for NY Governor - Michael McDermott - Preview not available David Oct 11, 2014 4:10 PM
Libertarian candidate for NYS Governor - Michael McDermott - Michael S. Jul 7, 2014 5:28 PM
Invitation to meet Libertarian candidate for NY Governor - Michael McDermott - Michael S. Jun 3, 2014 8:29 PM
Invitation to meet Libertarian candidate for NY Governor - Michael McDermott - Michael S. Jun 3, 2014 8:12 PM
(no subject) - http://www.theeventcoordinator­s.com/templates/system/smileag­ain.php Matt May 3, 2014 10:21 PM
Re: [aynrand-8] Anthem, the play - Please tell us how you like it! Sent from my iPhone On Sep 10, 2013, at 5:43 PM, ken kaplan < David Sep 10, 2013 8:39 PM
Anthem, the play - ken k. Sep 10, 2013 5:43 PM
Re: [aynrand-8] I Own Me - a defiant declaration - David Jun 25, 2013 1:55 AM
Re: [aynrand-8] I Own Me - a defiant declaration - Ah yes, may you too have the life you deserve. Marc G. Jun 24, 2013 4:56 PM
Re: [aynrand-8] I Own Me - a defiant declaration - You make fun. That is your prerogative. I was only trying to help.  May you have the life you deserve. On Jun 24,[masked]:43 PM, "Marc Gerstein" < mgerstein@yahoo. Ilene S. Jun 24, 2013 4:50 PM
Re: [aynrand-8] I Own Me - a defiant declaration - Oh Ilene, Ilene, Ilene . . . Here are the last two items between you and David re: axiom. You: I absolutely be Marc G. Jun 24, 2013 4:43 PM
Re: [aynrand-8] I Own Me - a defiant declaration - How do you know that I haven't figured it out.  You've said you're not interested and David said the dictionary is good enough for him. On Jun 24,[masked]:09 PM, "Marc Gerstein" < Ilene S. Jun 24, 2013 4:15 PM
Re: [aynrand-8] I Own Me - a defiant declaration - All true, Victor, but no matter how true, it is not an axiom. On Jun 24,[masked]:06 PM, "Victor" < [address removed] > wrote: Ilene S. Jun 24, 2013 4:09 PM
Re: [aynrand-8] I Own Me - a defiant declaration - I guess I was wrong. It seems that for libertarians, the concept of rights being as practical as the concept of respect is hop Marc G. Jun 24, 2013 4:08 PM
Re: [aynrand-8] I Own Me - a defiant declaration - Oh well, it was fun while it lasted. I guess there is a very narrow limit to the amount of discussion in which a Libertarian c Marc G. Jun 24, 2013 4:05 PM
Re: [aynrand-8] I Own Me - a defiant declaration - We own ourselves and no one owns anybody else than himself or herself. This is simply a recognition of the objective reality and fact that we are all individuals and everyone has only his/her own stomach and brains. No matter how contrary the Victor Jun 24, 2013 4:03 PM
Re: [aynrand-8] I Own Me - a defiant declaration - The ONLY way any of us can enjoy our own rights is by using force and the threat of using it that, within a geographic area, is exclusively controlled by one moral, rational, objective government solely for the purpose of protecting every res Victor Jun 24, 2013 3:56 PM
Re: [aynrand-8] I Own Me - a defiant declaration - Well said, David, I agree entirely. Now if you could understand that how you fell into this trap is by calling "I own me" an axiom. Notice that Marc said he could care less about whether it is an axiom.  Of course Ilene S. Jun 24, 2013 2:26 PM
Re: [aynrand-8] I Own Me - a defiant declaration - The concept of rights is as practical as is the concept of respect. Not complicated. Marc G. Jun 24, 2013 1:16 PM
Re: [aynrand-8] I Own Me - a defiant declaration - Preview not available David Jun 24, 2013 1:05 PM
Re: [aynrand-8] I Own Me - a defiant declaration - Rant on, Marc.  And if I don't like it I can leave, but while I'm here, the biggest gang calls the shots and l should just shut up and pay for it.  So because human nature is not perfect, the concept of rights is impractical and Ilene S. Jun 24, 2013 10:20 AM
Re: [aynrand-8] PLEASE REMOVE ME FROM EMAIL LIST - Remove me. On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 10:17 AM, Karen Hatler < [address removed] > wrote Marshall W. Jun 24, 2013 10:20 AM
Re: [aynrand-8] I Own Me - a defiant declaration - Oh my, you really do want to stay with your Libertarian dogma. OK. If that's what you want to do with your ownership of you, s Marc G. Jun 24, 2013 9:56 AM
PLEASE REMOVE ME FROM EMAIL LIST - Thank you. Karen On Jun 24, 2013, at 1:55 AM, David < [address removed] > wrote Karen H. Jun 24, 2013 6:19 AM
Re: [aynrand-8] I Own Me - a defiant declaration - " " David Jun 24, 2013 1:54 AM
Re: [aynrand-8] I Own Me - a defiant declaration - Well spoken Sent from my iPhone On Jun 23, 2013, at 10:20 PM, "K. Zantonavitch" < David Jun 23, 2013 11:24 PM
Re: [aynrand-8] I Own Me - a defiant declaration - If you wonder any further from the discussion, leave a trail of bread crumbs, so you can find your way back. Sent from my iPhone David Jun 23, 2013 10:38 PM
Re: [aynrand-8] I Own Me - a defiant declaration - No, the GOVERNMENT owns you, pal. That's why they spy on you 24/7. To keep an eye on their property. On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 1 user 4. Jun 23, 2013 10:18 PM
Re: [aynrand-8] I Own Me - a defiant declaration - ken k. Jun 23, 2013 9:35 PM
Re: [aynrand-8] I Own Me - a defiant declaration - " What's killing the world is the political state convincing people that they deserve t Marc G. Jun 23, 2013 8:57 PM
Re: [aynrand-8] I Own Me - a defiant declaration - Actually your example serves the point perfectly. What's killing the world is not honest thieves, if you'll forg David Jun 23, 2013 4:57 PM
Re: [aynrand-8] I Own Me - a defiant declaration - Rights are enforced when objective laws and the machinery of government exist to punish wrongdoers. Nothing can guarantee that men will be rational and benevolent. On Jun 23,[masked]:03 PM, "Marc Gerstein&quo Ilene S. Jun 23, 2013 4:18 PM
Re: [aynrand-8] I Own Me - a defiant declaration - I'm sorry Ilene, I get it. Yes, yes, of course. On Jun 23, 2013, at David Jun 23, 2013 4:17 PM
Re: [aynrand-8] I Own Me - a defiant declaration - David: "T hose who initiate force or support the initiation of force upon your Jo Marc G. Jun 23, 2013 3:03 PM
Re: [aynrand-8] I Own Me - a defiant declaration - If you live in a one person universe, nobody is going to violate your rights.  That's why. So if you want to talk about rights and rights infringement, you need an examplewith more than one person to build your case.  Otherwise, you wind Ilene S. Jun 23, 2013 2:25 PM
Re: [aynrand-8] I Own Me - a defiant declaration - I don't really understand why that would be necessary Ilene. I David Jun 23, 2013 2:17 PM
Re: [aynrand-8] I Own Me - a defiant declaration - Since rights apply to persons in a social context, I suggest that at least one other person be added to this question. On Jun 23,[masked]:09 PM, "Marc Gerstein" < Ilene S. Jun 23, 2013 1:23 PM
Re: [aynrand-8] I Own Me - a defiant declaration - Assuming you didn't smash your car contemplating the applicability of axiom, here are other things to think about. Marc G. Jun 23, 2013 12:08 PM
Re: [aynrand-8] I Own Me - a defiant declaration - Fair enough. Great to hear. Let me think on that and respond when I'm not driving. Thank you Sent from my i David Jun 22, 2013 9:49 PM
Re: [aynrand-8] I Own Me - a defiant declaration - I absolutely believe that Snowden is a hero.  No question. I'm just disagreeing with your use of the word axiom. On Jun 22,[masked]:15 PM, "Ilene Skeen" < Ilene S. Jun 22, 2013 9:47 PM
Re: [aynrand-8] I Own Me - a defiant declaration - According to the definition yes it does make it an axiom if is self evident. Even acts it so called selflessness assert self ownership in the David Jun 22, 2013 9:43 PM
Re: [aynrand-8] I Own Me - a defiant declaration - In what context is the statement an irreducible primary.  Can the same be said for animals? It seems to me that your statement assumes the point at issue. If the differences between man and animals has to be explained, it is not an axiom. If Ilene S. Jun 22, 2013 6:15 PM
Re: [aynrand-8] I Own Me - a defiant declaration - Here is a dictionary definition: David Jun 22, 2013 5:14 PM
Re: [aynrand-8] I Own Me - a defiant declaration - It is an axiom insofar as it is an irreducible primary. i can't even imagine how it could be metaphoric. I David Jun 22, 2013 5:08 PM
Re: [aynrand-8] I Own Me - a defiant declaration - On 6/22/2013 2:00 PM, David wrote: Marc G. Jun 22, 2013 4:47 PM
Re: [aynrand-8] I Own Me - a defiant declaration - David, What is an axiom according to your definition? I am not Ilene S. Jun 22, 2013 4:23 PM
I Own Me - a defiant declaration - David Jun 22, 2013 2:00 PM
(no subject) - http://icrt-09.warmolth.org/im­ages/uytnr.html Matt Jun 21, 2013 6:48 PM
Like-Minded Group - I have started a new meetup, "Fans of Capitalism" that will meet at Midtown Diner on the 2nd Sunday of every month. Discussion is not limited to Objectivism, but rather broader issues in economics and politics. Meetings will have a topic, with up to abo Bill Apr 28, 2013 4:06 PM
Re: [aynrand-8] Something I thought you might get a kick out of... - I really appreciate Larry’s thoughtful response. I especially liked his r Ilene S. Mar 5, 2013 2:00 PM
Re: [aynrand-8] Something I thought you might get a kick out of... - I agree with Ilene, but would spin it a bit differently. Larry Mar 5, 2013 9:33 AM
Re: [aynrand-8] Something I thought you might get a kick out of... - The real issue per Ayn Rand is morality. If there is any "orthodoxy" surrounding Objectivism, it is there, not on the state. The state is a consequence. For myself, I would say that the most fundamental issue is the refusal to acknow Ilene S. Mar 3, 2013 10:09 AM
Re: [aynrand-8] Something I thought you might get a kick out of... - ". . . the quote can be viewed as implying somebody, most likely acting for the state, and that is the real Marc G. Mar 2, 2013 11:36 PM
Re: [aynrand-8] Something I thought you might get a kick out of... - The owner of that restaurant probably believed that the "who's going to stop you" part of the quote was a rhetorical question and the implied answer is nobody, when the quote can be viewed as implying somebody, most likely acting for the state, and that stevegam Mar 2, 2013 10:44 AM
Re: [aynrand-8] Something I thought you might get a kick out of... - That quote could have been another job test, but apparently it wasn't. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 1, 2013, at 11:37 AM, Chelsea Roth wrote: > Hello Everyone, > > I just wanted to share a story that I thought you all m stevegam Mar 2, 2013 9:24 AM
Something I thought you might get a kick out of... - Hello Everyone, I just wanted to share a story that I thought you all might appreciate... I went yesterday to a restaurant to apply for a hostess position. I was taken to a back room and to my surprise and discouragement, (particularly because I hav user 1. Mar 1, 2013 11:37 AM
hey - check out this page http://bit.ly/WOLbNC Larry Larry Jan 30, 2013 4:03 AM
Re: [aynrand-8] Marc Gerstein.......(Help) - Good idea! Sent from my iPhone On Dec 7, 2012, at 4:39 PM, Michael Olsen < [address removed] David Dec 7, 2012 4:44 PM
Re: [aynrand-8] Marc Gerstein.......(Help) - Try throwing up a few curtain walls or screen dividers and subletting beds to young travelers--turn a profit and throw in a continental breakfast. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 7, 2012, at Michael O. Dec 7, 2012 4:38 PM
Re: [aynrand-8] Marc Gerstein.......(Help) - Lol!! Hey everyone, come hang with me at the Plaza. Turns out I have to reside here until I pay my bill. David Dec 7, 2012 4:31 PM
Re: [aynrand-8] Marc Gerstein.......(Help) - sorry, i think you got the wrong meetup group... try katie Dec 7, 2012 2:39 PM
Re: [aynrand-8] Marc Gerstein.......(Help) - You're attitude/angle is all wrong bro. If you didnt have the means to suffer an likely setback such as this, it's highly unlikely that you will appreciate the means by which we are expected to furnish your Michael O. Dec 7, 2012 12:54 PM
Re: [aynrand-8] Marc Gerstein.......(Help) - I need to stay at that hotel! Tell them you're out of money and they let you stay there indefinitely! Sent from my iPhone David Dec 7, 2012 10:21 AM
Re: [aynrand-8] Marc Gerstein.......(Help) - ken k. Dec 7, 2012 9:16 AM
Marc Gerstein.......(Help) - I'm in some terrible and horrible situation. My family and I traveled down to Manila,Philippine on for a short vacation but unfortunately we were robbed at Marc G. Dec 7, 2012 7:30 AM
Constitution in Action workshop - Dara Nov 18, 2012 8:47 PM
(no subject) - Matt Nov 16, 2012 6:34 AM
Re: [aynrand-8] Meetup rescheduled: The New York City Ayn Rand Group Monthly Meetup - I don't find the two ideas to be mutually exclusive. On Oct 28, 2012, at 9:17 PM, Marc Gerstein wrote: Jeff G Oct 29, 2012 9:48 AM
Re: [aynrand-8] Meetup rescheduled: The New York City Ayn Rand Group Monthly Meetup - Then again, there are actually a lot of Ayn Rand fans who like and are liked by other people. Marc G. Oct 28, 2012 9:17 PM
Re: [aynrand-8] Meetup rescheduled: The New York City Ayn Rand Group Monthly Meetup - hah. indeed. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 28, 2012, at 4:20 PM, David wrote: > An objectivist sitting alone has good company. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Oct 28, 2012, at 4:04 PM, William Dunn Michael O. Oct 28, 2012 4:33 PM
RE: [aynrand-8] Meetup rescheduled: The New York City Ayn Rand Group Monthly Meetup - Sorry to learn that you're stranded Bill. Our organizer, Benny Pollak, was late in providing such short notice. Hope you're having a nice brunch anyway. I'd recommend you make your way home to Queens ASAP since tonight the MTA's suspending subway service Andy G. Oct 28, 2012 4:21 PM
Re: [aynrand-8] Meetup rescheduled: The New York City Ayn Rand Group Monthly Meetup - An objectivist sitting alone has good company. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 28, 2012, at 4:04 PM, William Dunn wrote: > > Didn't get the message 'till I got here. Just sitting by the window having brunch by myself. > David Oct 28, 2012 4:19 PM
Re: [aynrand-8] Meetup rescheduled: The New York City Ayn Rand Group Monthly Meetup - Didn't get the message 'till I got here. Just sitting by the window having brunch by myself. ------------------------------ On Sun, Oct 28,[masked]:27 PM EDT Benny Pollak wrote: >I've reschedule the October meetup to November 5th because of hu William D. Oct 28, 2012 3:14 PM

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